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A19224 Discoverye of a counterfecte conference helde at a counterfecte place, by counterfecte travellers, for thadvancement of a counteerfecte tytle, and invented, printed, and published by one (person) that dare not avovve his name Constable, Henry, 1562-1613. 1600 (1600) STC 5638.5; ESTC S111899 27,719 97

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those that haue vvriten against popularity vvith infamie of absurd flatterye to blot the names estimations of those men vvhich haue vvritten in the defēce of the sacred state of a kinge against all popularitye It is not to be doubted that either his late Ma. vvisedome vvould be so vnmindefull as to vvink at suche popular presōption or that his most gracious nature vvould permitt the paynes good vvilles of such vvritters to be requited for any scorne full libell put forth vnder the protectiō of his late Ma. specially times standinge as they did then Neuertheles though some haue vvritten in defence of Kinges kingly state geuen them more immunityes priuileges or prerogatiues then good kinges vvil claime or good common vvealths are bovvnde to yelde yet that excuseth not these commen vvealth mē to straye so far forth out of the right vvaye as to engrosse their bad vvays by priuat monopoles franchesies in preiudice of Royall fredome and common good of all for I am sure that many haue vvrittē apologies touchinge that subiect very laudable vpon good assertions and propositions vvith limitations exceptions allovvāces al allovvable by lavv of reason conscience yea most beneficiall to vvhole sovvnd common vvealths but quite opposite to the general pro positions assertions of these lavvyers layd dovvne for the surmised authorities their broken common vvealths suche as they haue exemplified as patternes to be folovved But this proceedinge of these lavvyers is not all that vvas to dislīke the late kīge or this liuing for albeit this author that carieth vpō his shoulders all the parties named in the sayd libel vvoulde make the late kinge beleeue that all tytles being doutfull his force might should beare avvaye the Crovvne of Englāde for him selfe or theinfante his daughter and to facilitat this course made diuerse seminaryes priestes in spayne that vvēt into englāde by threats or fayre meanes to subscribe that in theire conferences there by all possible meanes they should aduaunce the pretence of the sayd infante yet since that tyme some of his dependents vvith his priuitie practized the aduaūcement of the late earle of Darby an hereticke to the Crovvne of Englande vvhich vvrought his vntimelye death as many say besides after this he him selfe vvrotte a discour se vvhich vvas sent into Englande published to many of the best Catholickes there that he vvoulde vvishe aduise them vvhen the commoditie serued that they should make an election of some principall noble Englishe Catholicke to be their Kinge so that the late King might haue seene if he hade liued vvhat affection respect this author caried either to him or his daunghters tytle or ther persons for that as nevve inuentiōs cōceipts came in to his head he vvould frame suche nevv titles covvrses as vvould best fit the marke he shott at for his particular profit aduauncemēt vvhich if the late Kinge had liued vvould haue bene a sufficiēt vvarnīge to him for euer beinge abused by the sayd author any more no doubt vvill brede the same effect vvith the kinge present his sister the infante vvhen they shall knovv thus muche And as youe may herby see playnly vvith vvhat reasō the kinge of spayne all monarches in generall are to finde them selues greeued vvith these lavvyers for the litle respect they haue to Regall kingly authoritye vvhich kinges are for their saftie to prouide for soe is there none more toched to the quicke by thies lavvyers aucthor then the kings Ma. of Scotland nor vvhome they desire to be more defaced touching his persone Right then he for then they doe as it vvere assure them selues that all their drifts practises vvould haue suche issue as they vvish vvith outlet or empeschement VVherin first their malice is greatly to be taxed that seake to ruyn ouerthrovve a king that neuer did any of them hurte but contrarivvise hath so far fauored somme of the authors function that in deliuering them from daunger of their liues he hazarded him selse for the same as the partyes them selues can not denye if they be asked besides the fauour that he hath shevved to some Catholickes hath neuer vsed persecution against anye vnelest it be against somme verye fevve that haue bene discouered to deale in some practises vvhich he thought might be daūgerous at that tyme to his person state Secondely their arrogancy is great in that they vvill determine vvhere the right of the Crovvne of englāde avvght to be vvoulde haue euery one to folovv the same vvhen they dare not auouche their names being ashamed to iustifie their ignoraunce in the common lavves of the realme Crovvne of Englande Genealogies bi the vvhich the right is to be tried if there vvere any doubt of the kinge of Scotlandes yet neuerthelesse they vvoulde haue theire sayinges courses to disanulle anichilate the manifest knovven Right afore all others vvhiche The kinge of Scottlande hath to the Crovvne of Englande due to him first by the quiet possesiō his Ancesters for diuerse hūdrethe yeares haue had frō vvhēce he is first liniallye discended next for that he is in the first place also by the same meane vvayes that the pretendors vvhome this libeller setteth dovvne vvoulde aduaunce them selues if neede be can lavvfully iustly deriue him selfe a title long tyme afore them all to the Crovvne of Englande And lastly for confirmatiō of the same kinges right to be the truest perfectest of all other vvithout exceptiō Sr. Nicolas Saunders that vvas lorde Cheefe Baron of thexchequer in Englande Sr. Antonye Brovvne that vvas lorde Cheefe Iustice of the commen pleas Mr. Carell called the father of the Iavve attorney for the Queens Ma. of the Duchye Mr. Edmonde Ployden vvhich vvere very vertuous vvise most famous mē for their knovveledge in the lavves of the realme Crovvne of Englāde as the like hath not bene for manie yeares did vvith out doubt difficultie sincerely playnely resolue and determine that the late Queene of Scotlāde vvas next heire apparent to the Realme and Crovvne of Englande vvho vvas his Ma. Mother so consequētly she diinge her heires vvere to succeede vvho debated this point vvith the aduise of the best Heraults of Englande that could be fovvnde had also the opinions of the vviser skilfuller sorte of the Realme that did accorde vvith them yet notvvistanding all this this ignorant author lavvyers vvithout name neither vnderstanding the lavves of England nor skilfull in genealogies vvoulde haue their friuoulous and rediculous reasons to be of more ualour and credit then theis a fore rehersed Lastly thies lavvyers other are to be noted of great presumption disobedience that vvith out the authoritie or vvarrant of their superiou's specially of his holinesse others his predecessors vpon vvhō they ought chefly to relye dare ouerthrovve and make kinges forme