Selected quad for the lemma: justice_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
justice_n	baron_n	common_a	lord_n	3,512	5	4.3504	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A61556	The grand question, concerning the Bishops right to vote in Parliament in cases capital stated and argued, from the Parliament-rolls, and the history of former times : with an enquiry into their peerage, and the three estates in Parliament.	Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.	1680 (1680)	Wing S5594; ESTC R19869	81,456	194

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curiae_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la gal●icis_fw-la so_o likewise_o in_o france_n as_o tilius_fw-la say_v haec_fw-la judiciorum_fw-la ratio_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la causis_fw-la feudalibus_fw-la judicent_fw-la feudales_n pares_fw-la 96._o in_o gallia_n est_fw-la perantiqua_fw-la so_o in_o fulbertus_n one_o count_n send_v word_n to_o another_o that_o their_o cause_n shall_v not_o be_v determine_v nisi_fw-la in_o conventu_fw-la parium_n suorum_fw-la and_o many_o other_o example_n may_v be_v produce_v but_o these_o be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v we_o understand_v the_o true_a original_a of_o this_o right_n of_o peerage_n which_o be_v from_o the_o feodal_n law_n and_o all_o those_o who_o hold_v of_o the_o same_o lord_n and_o by_o the_o same_o tenure_n be_v say_v to_o be_v pares_fw-la peer_n and_o therefore_o since_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n be_v baron_n by_o tenure_n ever_o since_o william_n i._o by_o consequence_n they_o be_v peer_n to_o other_o baron_n and_o have_v the_o same_o original_n 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