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A56866 Quatermayns conquest over Canterburies court, or, A briefe declaration of severall passages between him and the Archbishop of Canterbury with other commissioners of the High Commission Court, at six severall appearances before them, and by them directed to Doctor Featly : with their severall conferences, and the doctors by Roger Quatermayne. Quatermayne, Roger.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645. 1642 (1642) Wing Q148; ESTC R9277 38,184 64

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private Quater My Lord I am sure they are not publike I pray my Lord informe my judgement what a Conventicle is A●…chb Why this is a Conventicle said the Archbishop when t●…n or twelve or more or lesse meet together to pray reade preach expound this is a Conventicle Quater My Lord I doe not so understand it Archb. No saith he my Lord Chiefe Justice I appeale to you whether this be a Conventicle or no Sir Edward Littleton But my Lord Chiefe Justice answered nothing Quater My Lord under your Lordships favour I know it is no Conventicle neither by any Statute nor Cannon Law of this Kingdome if this be a Conventicle then I will be a Conventicler while I live with Gods helpe I kept a Conventicle in my house the last Wednesday if this be a Conventicle My Lord I did never come to your Court but I set apart the day before to 〈◊〉 to God for a blessing to direct me how to carry my selfe before you Archb. I so you may in private so it be onely with your owne family Quater And no body else my Lord truly my whole family consists wholy in my wife and my selfe and therefore I must call in my neighbours to helpe me for this dutie if it be kept as it ought will require more than a man and his wife to keepe it Archb. You were at Watlington and there be many of the Scottish faction there Quater At Watlington my Lord I was borne there will you not give me leave to goe into the Countrey to visit my friends Archb. Yes but not to make Conventicles and Preach Quater My Lord you said I m●…ght in private and when I am there I am as at home and my Lord we alwayes did it in private and not in the publike Congregation Lord N●…wborg Then said the Lord Newborg how doe you pray M●… Quatermayne at such meetings Quater My Lord I will tell you how wee pray wee pray thus that the Lord will be graciously pl●…ased out of all these combustions and confusions to bring forth a sacred Order for the establishment of the Gospell the rooting out of Popery superstition and Idolatry For the uniting of the two Kingdomes together England and Scotland in peace and setling his Majestie and his posteritie Royall in peace that so we may live under our owne Vines and Fig-trees to serve our God and to be loyall and obedient to our King and Soveraigne and loving and charitable one to another Lord Cottington Then said the Lord Cottington the Lord the Lord and why not our Lord or Jesus Christ or God Almightie Quater My Lord I am not willing to mis-phrase the Scriptures neither am I willing to displease your Lordships therefore whether I say our Lord or God or Christ or God Almightie the Scripture will beare me out in what I say Lord Cottington The Lord the Lord what Lord doe you meane doe you meane the Lord Wentworth Quater No my Lord I doe not meane the Lord Wentworth I know him not nor am I acquainted with him but that Lord that I meane is the Lord of Heaven and Earth Lord Privie Seale The Lord said the Lord Privie Seale Doe you finde fault with the man for saying the Lord he speak●…th to the purpose why is not the Lord in Scriptures as well to be spoken as our Lord or Christ or God All-mightie Lord of Dorset My Lord said the Lord of Dorset you loose time the man speaketh punctually to the purpose the Lord it is the principall title that God is denominated in the Scriptures by Archb. You were at Watlington and there be of the Scotish faction Quater My Lord I know not what you meane by the Scotish faction Lord Cottington Yes said the Lord Cottington I thinke you doe and I beleeve if you were well examined you would be found one of the principall Then many of the Lords cryed out of the Scots and called them Rebells and Traytors Archb. I said Canterbury wee have proved them Traytors and Rebels Lord Cottington They must needs be Traytors and Rebells when they shall come in such hostile manner to invade his Majesties Realme and rob and spoyle his Subjects Archb. I said Canterbury and under pretence of Religion to invade the Land Lord Cottington Then said the Lord Cottington what doe you thinke of the Scots Mr Quatermayne Quater My Lord if you examine my conscience I pray doe it by Scriptures Archb. You say right said Canterbury I never did otherwise nor will doe Lord Cottington Then said the Lord Cottington againe Master Quatermayne what doe you thinke of the Scots Quater My Lord I thinke more than I will speake Then said another Lord you heare that they be proved traytors what doe you thinke of them now Quater My Lord I have thought formerly that those things that your Lordship now sayes were not true I know not now what cause I may have to al●…er my thoughts Another Lord But what doe you now thinke of them Master Quatermayne Quater Then said I my Lord if they be Traytors let them suffer as Traytors Lord Master Quatermayne what doe you thinke of them Quater My Lord whatsoever I thinke I will say nothing Lord Goring Then said the Lord Goring Master Quatermayn how doe you judge of the Scots speake your mind freely you need not be so shy here is none that will wrong you Quater My Lord I cannot judge at uncertainty I heare one thing now and another ●…hing anon I hardly heare one thing twice together and therefore I will suspend my judgement Then said two or three Lords together what doe you say of the Scots speake your mind freely you heare they are proved traytors Quater My Lord you say you have already proved the Scots Traytors and I have said if they be Traytors let them suffer as Traytors and my Lord if you have proved them Traytors you doe not want my approbation for if I say they are Traytors or if I say they are not it proves them neither to be nor not to be Traytors and therefore I will say nothing Sir ●…homas Row Then said Sir Thomas Row and the Lord Goring What doe you beleeve concerning the ●…cots i Master Quatermayne Quater To whom I answered my Lord I doe beleeve all the Articles of my Creed Sir Thomas Row and Lord Goring Then said both those I thinke you doe for you seeme to be a man of judgement but doe you beleeve the Scots are Traytors Quater My Lord it was never no Article of my faith for I never found it in my Creed with that they all smiled P. S. and Arch. Then s●…y the Lord privie Seale and the Archbishop Well for all this wee shall prove that you were the chiefe cause of the ryot at Pauls on Thursday last and therefore Sir John Bankes I pray receive information from Master Lathom and Master Lathom goe you to Master Atturney Generall and give him instruction how he shall draw
answered that doth not follow he may be a wise and a judicious Gentleman and yet we may differ in our judgements in this thing Bish. of Bathe and Wells Then said the Bishop of Bathe and Wells it is like you will never take the Oath while you live Quater To whom I answered it is very like so indeed Bish. of Bathe and Wells Where is Doctor Featly's report Quater Here it is said I and gave it into their hands Bish of Bathe and Wells Then said the Bishop of Bathe and Wells the Doctor speaketh very well of you Quater I answered I hope I shall give him no cause to the contrary Bish. Wrenne Well said B●…shop Wrenne Master Quatermayne take a longer time for it and informe your judgement Doct. Then said a Doctor informe your selfe with wise and judicious men such as Mr Suitt Doctor Gouge and the like Quater I answered trouble not your selfe I will goe to such as I thinke fit both wise and honest Bish. Wrenne I pray said Bishop Wrenne doe so and come hither the first day of the next Terme Quater I answered I could not come then Bish. of Bathe and Wells Then said the Bishop of Bathe and Wells why Quater I answered I was to go into the Countrey to visit my friends and that I could not return so soon Bi. Wren Well said Bishop Wren let it be the second Court day and in the meane time inform your judgement for assure your self if you do not conform your self we will take another course with you Quater I answered I would do any thing that an honest man should or ought to do or else I would suffer for it if you will convince me by Scriptures I shall willingly submit thereunto or else suffer as a Delinquent Bishop Ba. Well M. Quatermayn I hope you will between thi and the next Tearme satisfie your conscience Quatermayn I answered I am already satisfied Bish. Bath I pray M. Quatermayn come again the next Terme Pursevant Then said the Pursevant I pray M. Quatermayne take your company with you for here be an hundred and fiftie Puritants Thomas Squire How do you know that said an honest man Pursevant I know them said the Pursevant by their eyes they look upward Tho. Squire Well said the honest man there shall be three hundred the next Court day which was done accordingly as I suppose Doctor Then said a Doctor A pox a God on him if he will not take the Oath we may burn our books And this is the sum and substance of my second appearance Quater My third appearance in the High Commission Court was the eighteenth day of June 1640. at which time the Archbishop and Bishop Wren were both present together the Archbishop with a very sterne countenance spake unto me in this manner Archbishop Mr Quatermayne are you yet resolved to take the Oath Quater I answered I am not yet resolved to take it I do not find it l●…wfull Archbishop Then said the Archbishop It was lawfull before you were born and I will make it both Law and Justice too before I have done Quater My Lord if you do then you and I shall not differ Archb. Then said the Archbishop you were wisht to go to Doctor Featly and that he should report to the Court how he found you Quater I answered I did go according as I was directed Archb. Then said the Archbishop where is the Report Quater I answered I brought it into the Court the last Tearme Archb. Where is it read it said the Archbishop Clerke Then the Clerke read it Archb. What is the reason you are not resolved to take the Oath Did not Doctor Featly labour to informe your judgement Quater I answered he did his best endeavour Archb. You stand much upon Scripture did he not give you Scripture enough for it Quater I answered he gave me foure Scriptures Archb. Well and what do you say of those Scriptures Quater I answered it was the holy Word of God but nothing to the purpose for the lawfulnesse of the Oath taking Archb. Then I see it is not Scripture that will satisfie you Quater I answered if you do convince me by the Scriptures I will submit Archb. I pray by what rule will you be judged Quater I answered by the Law of God and of the Land Archb. What do you meane by the Law of God and the Land Quater By the Law of God I meane the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament And by the Law of the Land I mean●… the Stature Law of the Kingdom Archb. You are very often up with the Law pray God you are as willing to live by the Law as you are to vindicate your own cause by the Law Quater My Lord if I do not the Law is open against me Archb. Well you sh●…ll know before I have done that our Court is both Law and Justice and that we do not sit here to keep sheep and I promise you we will not wait upon you no longer than the next Court day and therefore informe your selfe and resolve to take the Oath for I am resolved to take another course with you if you doe not Divers spake Then said divers Doctors send him away to prison you have admonished him oftentimes enough Archb. No said he I will wait upon him one Court day more A Doctor My Lord said a Doctor pray aske him if he hold not our Court and the Administration of the Oath unlawfull but the Archbishop answered nothing Doctor Then said a Doctor Doe you hold our Court and the administering the Oath unlawfull Quater To whom I answered What have you to doe to examine mee you are no Commissioner if your Court or you doe that which is unlawfull you shall answer 〈◊〉 it your s●…lves for my part What I doe shall be lawfull or else I will not doe it Archbishop Well said the Archbishop repaire to Doctor Featly once more and see if you can receive satisfaction from him and repaire hither againe this day 〈◊〉 and resolve before-hand to take the Oath for assure your selfe we will not have his Majesties Court so slighted and Commission ●…spected and if you doe not satisfie your selfe you shall goe another way directly Quater This is the summe and substance of my third appearance at Lambeth House and when we had done the Purse●… did wish they were rid of the Puritans for they were ready to be stifled with them Pursev●…nt Then said one of them this is the C●…mpion of the Puritans Doctor No said a Doctor Master Quatermayne is no Puritan he doth not fast and pray he is too fat Quater Whence we may take notice that they are convinced in their consciences that these duties of Religion ought to be performed and that those whom they call Puritans doe performe them My fourth Appearance was the twenty-fift day of June 1640. Quater I having been with Doctor Featly the second time with divers others and his occasions were
man in the Convocation House-dore and I asked him if the High Commission Court would be kept there that day or no and he answered me yes then said I what is the reason the dore is not yet opened then said he because the Court is not yet come and when they are come there will not be roome enough for them then said I remove the Court where roome is and I walked downe into the body of the Church and one came unto mee saying these words Master Quatermayne what doe you here To whom I answered I was bound in a band of one hundred pounds there to be Friend Why said he Is your businesse not yet ended Quater I answered no neither doe I know when it will Friend Then he asked me what they did intend to doe with me Quater I answered I could not tell Friend Then said he will you take the Oath Ex Officio Quater I answered no I will never take it Friend Then said he what will they doe Quater I answered I know not it may be they will imprison mee the Archbishop did threaten mee that he would the last Tearme Friend No said he I thinke they will not be so forward they have other businesse to doe Quater Then I left him and I walked quite thorow Pauls all alone no body with mee and went into the Book-sellers Church-yard and there made water against the payles and returned againe thorow Pauls to the High Commission Court and the Court was set and I went up into the Court and did diligently hearken when my name should be called and after a while people comming in they made a hemming hooting and shouting and thronging into the Court and upon my selfe so that I was forced and constrained to put on my hatt to save my belly and cryed out unto them take heed of my belly you hurt me with your thronging upon me and presently as the people shouted the Court began to rise and Sir Nathaniel Brent being one of the first that came downe I went downe together with him and he turning backe unto me said Sir Nathaniel Brent What a tumult is here Mr Quatermayn this is not long of you I hope Quater It is in no wise but Sir I am bound in a band of one hundred pounds here to appeare and if you have nothing in Court against mee why should honest men be troubled The Knight replyed thus Sir Nathaniel Brent Pray Mr Quatermayne come to my house to morrow or next day Quater To whom I replyed I would with Gods helpe and while we were thus talking came the Register and said Register This is long of you Master Quatermayne all this tumult Quater To whom I answered you speake falsly are you the Register of the Court and doe you lye you doe speake falsly you have my band of one hundred pounds give me my band and I will neither trouble you nor your Court Then I parted from the Knight and I came to the South dore of Pauls and the Court was shut up and all the people were gone and then I went into Pauls-Church-yard to looke for my wife and leaning my backe against a Drapers stall I saw the Cushions fly over mens heads and into the dirt and men kicked them but who they were I know not but my Lords under your Lordships favour I doe conceive that the Commissioners themselves were onely in the fault for if they had done as in other Courts of Justice that is in this manner Be uncovered in the face of the Court Gentlemen keepe silence Give audience to the Court or my Lords in the third place if they had made Proclamation and deferred the Court untill some other time there would have been no tumult at all but they brake away from the Court and the people followed hooting as Birds at an Owle After all this my Lords I with my wife and her sister and two or three more went into the uppermost house in Carter-Lane and there we dranke a cup of Beere together and then parted some of the company my selfe my wife and one other went to Master Seamans his Lecture in Bred-street and there heard both Service and Sermon And thus have I given your Lordships an account how I spent the whole day on Thursday last Archbish. Then said the Archbishop but you were in the Countrey and there you made Conventicles and preached Quater My Lord I was in the Countrey but made no Conventicles nor yet did preach Quater My Lord I never made any Conventicle since I knew any thing that was good But I was close by where a fearfull Conventicle was and that upon the Sunday or Lords day where were at the least two thousand met together to blaspheme God and to prophane his holy Sabbath abuse his creatures and to misspend their precious time to the great dishonour of God and the provocation of the eyes of his glory And my Lords except your Lordships speedily looke to it for a Reformation the judgements of God will fall upon this Kingdome But my Lords if this be a Conventicle when the judgements of God be upon the Land for a people to meet together and humble themselves and pray before the Lord we are farre off from Salomons judgement for he saith If the Lord send a judgement among the people if the people that are called by his Name shall humble themselves and pray and seeke his face and depart from their wicked wayes God will heare from heaven forgive their sinnes and heale the Land And my Lords are not the judgements of God upon us is here not the plague of pestilence and a threatned famine and the sword of warre hanging over our heads and shall not wee my Lords humble our selves in the sence of Gods displeasure It is an argument my Lords that there is no Religion among us Lord Newborg Then said the Lord Newborg at such meetings as these are Master Quatermayne in what manner doe you performe your d●…ties Quater My Lord thus Wee pray and we reade the Scriptures and as well as wee are able finde out the meaning of the Holy Ghost therein and what we understand from the Word we impart to our company A Lord So said one of the Lords and is not this Preaching Quater No my Lord I doe not understand it so it is nothing but godly Conference which every Christian man is bound to doe and performe for it is our dutie to edifie and build up one another in our most holy faith which wee cannot doe except it be opened unto us Archb. Then said the Archbishop this is his constant practice in Citie and Countrey to draw people togeth●…r and to make 〈◊〉 Quater My Lord I want information in my judgement I understand n●…t wh●…t you meane by Conventicle I did alw●…yes thinke that publike duties did not make voyd private but that both might stand with a Christian Archb. No more it doth not said the Archbishop but your Conventicles are not