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A07805 The encounter against M. Parsons, by a revievv of his last sober reckoning, and his exceptions vrged in the treatise of his mitigation. Wherein moreouer is inserted: 1. A confession of some Romanists, both concerning the particular falsifications of principall Romanists, as namely, Bellarmine, Suarez, and others: as also concerning the generall fraude of that curch, in corrupting of authors. 2. A confutation of slaunders, which Bellarmine vrged against Protestants. 3. A performance of the challenge, which Mr. Parsons made, for the examining of sixtie Fathers, cited by Coccius for proofe of Purgatorie ... 4. A censure of a late pamphlet, intituled, The patterne of a Protestant, by one once termed the moderate answerer. 5. An handling of his question of mentall equiuocation (after his boldnesse with the L. Cooke) vpon occasion of the most memorable, and feyned Yorkeshire case of equiuocating; and of his raging against D. Kings sermon. Published by authoritie Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1610 (1610) STC 18183; ESTC S112913 342,598 466

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prove_v that_o bellarmine_n mean_v that_o both_o these_o fire_n be_v understand_v in_o that_o one_o place_n where_o he_o himself_o confess_v that_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n be_v not_o understand_v this_o will_v be_v as_o hapless_a a_o work_n as_o if_o you_o have_v seek_v by_o contradict_v bellarmine_n to_o free_a bellarmine_n from_o contradiction_n sect_n iii_o the_o charge_n of_o many_o false_a allegation_n together_o 5._o 69._o yet_o again_o among_o his_o sunt_fw-la manifest_a place_n for_o purgatory_n he_o allege_v etc._n origen_n etc._n basil_n etc._n lactantius_n etc._n hierome_n 6._o ambrose_n all_o which_o be_v acknowledge_v express_o by_o 1._o sixtus_n senensis_n from_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o context_n to_o have_v speak_v only_o of_o the_o fire_n of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o consequent_o as_o bellarmine_n have_v teach_v we_o not_o of_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n mr._n parson_n his_o reckon_a i_o will_v demand_v of_o m._n morton_n why_o we_o shall_v 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