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pro_fw-la peccato_fw-la proprie_fw-la sic_fw-la dicto_fw-la quod_fw-la posteros_fw-la adami_n odio_fw-la dei_fw-la dignos_fw-la faciat_fw-la nec_fw-la pro_fw-la malo_fw-la quod_fw-la per_fw-la modum_fw-la proprie_fw-la dictae_fw-la paenae_fw-la ab_fw-la adamo_n in_fw-la posteros_fw-la dimanet_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o pelagian_n also_o be_v wont_a much_o to_o insist_v on_o this_o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v both_o a_o sin_n and_o a_o punishment_n of_o sin_n because_o sin_n be_v voluntary_a punishment_n involuntary_a etc._n etc._n austin_n to_o convince_v they_o use_v to_o produce_v that_o place_n which_o indeed_o carry_v great_a evidence_n in_o it_o rom._n 1._o against_o this_o julianus_n will_v say_v those_o speech_n be_v hyperbolical_a but_o yet_o the_o father_n so_o press_v he_o that_o sometime_o he_o can_v not_o but_o acknowledge_v that_o something_o may_v be_v &_o peccatum_fw-la &_o paena_fw-la peccati_fw-la whence_o that_o lib._n 5._o cont_n julia._n cap._n 9_o meministine_n quamdiu_fw-la disputaveris_fw-la contrae_fw-la lucidissimam_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la apostolum_n deprompta_fw-la est_fw-la veritatem_fw-la affirmans_fw-la nullo_n modo_fw-la esse_fw-la posse_fw-la aliquid_fw-la quod_fw-la &_o peccatum_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o paena_fw-la peccati_fw-la quid_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la nunc_fw-la quod_fw-la oblitus_fw-la loquacitatis_fw-la tuus_fw-la &_o c_o do_v not_o arminius_n pelagianize_v in_o this_o see_v but_o the_o one_o and_o thirty_o article_n object_v to_o he_o it_o will_v thence_o appear_v that_o he_o take_v exception_n against_o the_o public_a catechism_n because_o in_o it_o be_v say_v that_o original_a sin_n be_v a_o punishment_n for_o if_o god_n do_v punish_v adam_n sin_n with_o this_o than_o he_o must_v punish_v this_o with_o another_o and_o that_o other_o with_o another_o and_o so_o there_o will_v be_v a_o processus_fw-la in_o infinitum_fw-la my_o business_n be_v not_o now_o to_o answer_v the_o objection_n of_o arminius_n but_o only_o to_o discover_v his_o opinion_n yet_o lest_o any_o one_o shall_v think_v this_o subtlety_n unanswerable_a i_o refer_v he_o to_o the_o late_o publish_v lecture_n of_o doctor_n samuel_n ward_n the_o pâ—ccatâ—_n originali_fw-la pag._n 8._o where_o it_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o and_o answer_v satisfactory_o our_o next_o parallel_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o doctrine_n relate_v to_o god_n decree_n and_o the_o absoluteness_n or_o conditionality_n thereof_o the_o opinion_n of_o pelagius_n be_v that_o the_o well_o use_v of_o freewill_n and_o natural_a power_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o predestination_n how_o much_o or_o how_o little_a the_o massilian_n differ_v from_o he_o in_o assign_v the_o cause_n of_o predestination_n be_v show_v large_o by_o vossius_fw-la hist._n pel._n lib._n 6._o pag._n 533_o 534_o etc._n etc._n and_o by_o jansenius_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la pelag._n lib._n 8._o cap._n 21._o to_o who_o i_o refer_v my_o reader_n and_o shall_v now_o only_o take_v notice_n of_o saint_n prospâ—rs_v epistle_n to_o saint_n austin_n in_o which_o i_o find_v the_o semipelagian_o thus_o represent_v they_o hold_v that_o god_n before_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v lay_v do_v foresee_v who_o will_v believe_v and_o who_o will_v persevere_v in_o that_o faith_n to_o this_o perseverance_n in_o say_v they_o acknowledge_v the_o help_n of_o graâ—e_n be_v needful_a and_o predestinate_v those_o to_o his_o kingdom_n of_o who_o he_o foresee_v that_o they_o will_v be_v worthy_a his_o vocation_n and_o go_v out_o of_o this_o world_n make_v a_o good_a end_n if_o their_o judgement_n be_v ask_v about_o infant_n die_v in_o
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arminius_n when_o he_o make_v faith_n a_o condition_n of_o divine_a election_n infidelity_n a_o condition_n of_o reprobation_n take_v the_o word_n condition_n in_o the_o late_a sense_n and_o so_o plain_o make_v it_o the_o same_o with_o a_o meritorious_a or_o motive_n cause_n for_o he_o every_o where_o maintain_v that_o posita_fw-la side_n ponitur_fw-la electio_fw-la negata_fw-la fide_fw-la negatur_fw-la electio_fw-la that_o faith_n be_v a_o mean_v ordain_v and_o appoint_v by_o god_n for_o the_o obtain_n of_o election_n therefore_o as_o that_o learned_a professor_n well_o conclude_v pag._n 119_o 120._o sunt_fw-la merae_fw-la verborum_fw-la praestigiae_fw-la cum_fw-la aiunt_fw-la praevisam_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o infidelitatem_fw-la esse_fw-la conditioone_n non_fw-la modo_fw-la quae_fw-la praecedunt_fw-la praedestinationem_fw-la &_o reprobationem_fw-la communiter_fw-la &_o promiscue_v consideratam_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la quibus_fw-la oritur_fw-la distinctio_fw-la 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