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A91189 A full declaration of the true state of the secluded members case. In vindication of themselves, and their privileges, and of the respective counties, cities and boroughs for which they were elected to serve in Parliament, against the vote of their discharge, published in print, Jan. 5. 1659. by their fellow members. Compiled and published by some of the secluded members, who could meet with safety and conveniencie, without danger of a forcible surprize by Red-coats. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1660 (1660) Wing P3965; Thomason E1013_22; ESTC R22149 44,193 60

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who as he doth not pervert judgement nor do wickedly Job 8. 3●c 34. 12. but judgeth uprightly without respect of persons 1 Pet. 1. 17. Justice and Judgement being the habitation of his Throne from whence he administreth Judgement in Righteousness Ps. 89. 14. Ps. 9. 8. So he alwaies pleads with Malefactors and judgeth them face to face Ezech. 20. 35. Thus he proceeded against and judged the very first Offenders Eve Adam and the Serpent for the first offence in the world after the Creation summoning all three of them before him and impeaching and hearing their Answers to his Charge and last of all giving a particular judgement against each of them according to their Offences Gen. 3. 8 to 20. as a President for all other Judges to imitate And thus God and Jesus Christ will proceed in the last general judgement of the whole world when all Mankind and every Person good or bad from the Creation till the worlds expiration shall be summoned and personally stand and appear before the judgement Seat of God and Christ where every one of them shall give a particular account of himself to God of whatever he hath done in the Body whether it be good or evil and we and our Secluders too amongst the rest and be judged according to their works and receive a particular sentence of Condemnation or Absolution as Eccles. 12. 14. Mat. 25. 33 to 46. Rom. 14. 10 11 12. 2 Cor. 5. 10. Rev. 20. 12 13. Mat. 12. 36. Rom. 2. 1 2 3 to 13. resolve Upon all which premises we conclude the Votes Proceedings against us by our Fellow-Members to be erroneous injurious unrighteous nul and void to all intents And if they and the Army-Officers for want of Law Reason Presidents shall still endeavour as hitherto to make them valid and obligatory to us and those we represent only by Club-Law and violence We shall then conclude as the Lords and Commons and most of themselves heretofore did in their Declaration of August 4. 1642. against the King and his forces who were never guilty of so high a violation of our Privileges as those now sitting * If the King may force this Parliament by demanding only 6. Members of it and our Secluders now by excluding above 200. at once by force and Arms we may bid farewell to all Parliaments from ever receiving good by them And if Parliaments be lost the People are lost their Laws are lost as well those lately made for Triennial Parliaments and the continuance of this against the Council-Tables Extravagances c. as in former times which will be cut in sunder by the same Sword now drawn for the destruction of this by ours and others forcible seclusions Then if they will not come and help the Parliament and save themselves though both they and we must perish yet have we discharged our Consciences and delivered our Souls and will look for a Reward in Heaven should we be so ill requited upon Earth by th●se of whom we have so well deserved which we cannot fear having found upon all occasions such real Demonstrations of their Love and Affection and of their r●ght understanding and apprehension of our and their common Danger especially now that the Question is so clearly stated We shall only subjoyn 3. Considerations more in point of Law and prudence arising from our forcible seclusion and exclusion by the minority of our fellow Members 1. That both Houses and most of themselves have declared in their s Declaration of 23. Octob. 1642. that the raising of forces only to force some particular Members of this Parliament as the 6. impeached by the King to be delivered up and secluded the House is a levying war against the Parliament For to raise an Army to compell the Parliament to expose these Members to the fury of these wicked Counsellors that thirst after nothing more than the ruine of them and the Commonwealth What can be more evident than that the same is levied against the Parliament For did they prevail in this then by the same reason they might d●mand twenty more and consequently never rest satisfied untill their Malice and Tyranny did devour all those Members they found crosse and opposice to their Lewd and Wicked designs And so by depriving the Parliament of their Members destroy the whole Body That both Houses in their Votes of 20 Maii 1642 t resolved That the levying war against the Parl. is Treason and whoever shall assist the King though the chief Member and u head of the Parliament much more then any inferior Members of it in such a Warr are Traytors by the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdom and have been so adjudged by two Parliaments 1●R 2. 1 H. ● and ought to suffer as Traytors Which Votes were seconded by many x Ordinances for sequestring and confiscating the real and personal estates of all Members of Parliament and others who sided with the King and his Forces against the Houses of Parliament by the condemnation of Mr: Waller and execution of Mr. Tomkins and others as TRAYTORS y for conspiring to seise several Members of both Houses by force of arms under a pretence of bringing them to justice by a Commission from the King dated 16 March 1643. though they actually attempted not to se●fe any Member By the proceedings against the * Members of both Houses deserting the Parliament under pretext that they were forcibly driven away from Westminster by seditious Tumults and imposed trayterous Oaths summoned to meet at Oxford by the Kings Proclamation of Jan. 29. 1643. where 49. Members of the Lords House and 175. of the Commons House assembled and sate in Council with the King and yet for levying war against the majority of the Parliament and both Houses sitting at Westm. they were are all of them sequestred and after several summons discharged to sit in either House by a special Ordinance (z) some of the said Lords together with the King himself condemned and executed as Traytors for levying war against the Parliament and majority of the M●mbers at a great distance not personally in or at the House doors without se●uring or secluding any Members or interrupting their sitting in the House by armed forces If then it were high Treason in the King and his party to raise forces to demand and secure but 6. Members of both Houses by force and for the minority of the Lords and Commons house to levy war against the majority of the Parliament only at a distance for which they were thus sequestred conde●●ed executed as Traytors even by those now sitting as well before as after our seclusion we refer it to their own Consciences Judgements and the whole Kingdom to determine whether it be not a higher and worser Treason levying war against the Parliament for them being but the Minority of the House and Members to engage and order the very * forces raised against the King and his party
must needs be the extremity of Anti-Parliamentary Injustice especially in those of the Long Robe sitting in and advancing themselves to the Seats of Justice in all the Courts of Westminster 12. It is the undoubted Privilege and Birth right not only of Members but of the meanest despicablest and most flagitious Commoners of England if complainants or petitioners to be admitted freely both into the Lobby and Commons House without forcible seclusion to present their complaints grievances for their relief or redresse or if a Delinquents to be accused summoned heard duly convicted and particularly sentenced at the bar by name before they be committed or sentenced as all Parliamentary Records Journals daily experience attest Therfore that the Majority of the Members persons of greatest Eminency Interest Integrity representing most Counties Cities and Boroughs of the Realm should be denied that justice and privilege which the meanest Commoners and most exec●able Del●●quents enjoy as their Birthright only for their Vote and that by their Fellow-Members the greatest pretenders to publick Justice Liberty and Saintship is not only Anti-Parliamentary and Injurious but stupendious in the sight of God Angels Men and the whole Nation 13ly The whole House of Commons and some of our secluders in the case of the XI M●mbers impeached by the Army 9. of them now secluded upon long and full debate June 25. 1647. Resolved unanimously on the Question without one dissenting Voice as to part of the Armies general charge against them for something they had spoken and done within the House That it did not appear that any thing had been said or done by them in the House touching any matters contained in the charge or Papers sent from the Army for which they could in justice suspend them from ●itting and Voting in the House In the debate whereof they all concluded it was a high breach of Privilege for the Army or any others out of the House to impeach any Members for things spoken or done within the House whereof the House alone is to take notice and be the sole Judge Therefore by this very Vote and resolution the House upon the Armies Proposals and Desires alone ought not in justice to suspend much lesse forcibly to seclude and eject us only for our Vote within it and it was a transcendent breach of the Privileges of the House to receive their Proposals Decemb. 6. and their Answer January 3. complaining against our Vote and to make it the only ground of our suspension and seclusion ever since and now of our Ejection 2ly They then unanimously resolved That by the Laws of the Land no Iudgement can be given to suspend those Members or any of them from sitting in the House upon the Paper presented from the Army before particulars offered and proofes made against them Therefore they cannot suspend seclude and eject both them and the Majority of the whole House now from sitting or Voting with them any more only for their Vote without any other particular charge hea●ing conviction or Judgement pronounced against them at the bar 14ly Had this Vote and judgement of Supension and Discharge been given against any one of the suspended Members in a full and free house and Parliament and ratified by an Act or Ordinance of both houses without any legal summons tryal and hearing at the Bar yet it had been erroneous null and void and ought to be reversed as such and that by the expresse judgements and resolutions of the Parliaments of 28 E. 3. Rot. Parl. n. 7 to 14. 29 E. 3. n. 29. in the case of * Roger Mortymer Earl of March who in the Parliament of 4 E. 3. Rot. Parl. n. 1. was impeached in Parliament of high Treason for murdering of King Edward the 2d after his deposing for accroaching to himselfe Royal Power and the Government of the State over the King For comming to the Parliament at Salisbury with force and arms contrary to the Kings Writ and Prohibition under his Seal That none should come to the Parliament with force and arms under pain of forfeiting all that he could forfeit to the King Whereupon the Earl of Lancaster and others of the Lords by reason of his force came not at all And when in the Prelates were there assembled in an house at the said Parliament to consult about the affairs of the King and Realm The said Roger broke open the Doors of the House upon them with men at arms and threatned them of Life and of Member if they should be so hardy to speak or do any thing against his Will and Ordinances And did so much in the same Parliament that the King made him Earl of March and gave him many Lands and Tenements to the dis-inheriting of the Crown And afterwards the said Roger and those of his confederacy led the King armed against the Earl of Lancaster and other Peers of the Land to Winchester where they were comming towards the King to the said Parliament at Salisbury Whereupon the said Earl and other Peers of the Land to avoid the peril that might happen out of reverence to the King departed and went towards their Country grieving that they could not speak with nor counsel the said King as they intended and ought to do And for several other grand misdemeanors drawn up and entred in the Parliament Rolls in 14. Articles in French Upon these Articles by reason of the notoriousness of the Facts he was by Judgement and act of Parliament condemned and executed as a Traytor in 4 E. 3. without being brought personally to answer or make his defence at the Bar and his Lands forfeited to the King Whereupon in the Parliament of 28 E. 3. Roger Mortymer Earl of Worcester his Cousin and Heir by Petition prayed That this Act of his Attainder might be examined and the judgement against him reversed for manifest errors therein Whereupon the Record was brought into the Parliament and the Articles Judgement and Proceedings read at large Which done it was alleaged That the judgement was defective and erroneous in all points not for the substance and Truth of the charge but for that the said E. was put to death and dis-inherited Sans nulle accusement et sans estre mesne au juggement ou en respons without any accusation face to face and without being brought to judgement or to answer For which cause it was prayed the said Act a●d Iudgement might be reversed and annulled And for these Reasons our Lord the King Prince Dukes Earls and Barons by * accord of the Knights of Counties and of the Commons reversed and annulled the said Records and Iudgements and adjudged them erroneous and void And the Parliament of 29 E. 3. did likewise confirm and assent thereto as the Parliament Rolls attest If then this Judgement though ratified by an Act of Parliament upon particular Articles of Impeachment true in substance against this Arch-traytor and first forcer of Parliaments by armed men extant on
Record was reversed as erroneous void and null because he was not accused face to face nor brought to judgement and answer at the Bar before his judgement and execution though there was a judgement given against him by name in the Parliament Roll and Act Then much more must the Judgement and Vote against all the secluded Members and majority of the house kept out thence by armed Gards by command of our Secluders and Judges without the least accusation Articles of Impeachment hearing trial or bringing us to the Bar to hear our judgement or naming any of us particularly therein be unparliamentary erroneous void and null to all intents and no waies obligatory to us or those for whom we do serve 2ly It is altogether erronious illegal and void in Law 1. By the Great Charter of our Liberties 9 H. 3. c. 29. confirmed in above 40. successive Parliaments by the Statutes of 25 E. 1. c. 1 2. 28 E. 1. c. 1 2. 5 E. 3. c. 9. 25 E. 3. c. 4. 28 E. 3. c. 3. 42 E. 3. c. 2 3. The Petition of Right 3 Caroli and sundry other Statutes enacting and providing That no Freeman of England shall be outed of his Freehold Liberties Franchises outlawed pas●ed upon fore-judged or condemned unlesse he be 1. Lawfully accused indited and impeached 2ly Summoned and brought in to answer by legal processe 3ly Brought to judgement trial and hearing at the bar and admitted to his just defence 4ly Legally convicted by his own confession or witnesses produced face to face 5ly Particularly judged and condemned by sentence at the bar And if any judgement be given to the contrary it shall be reversed and holden as null and void All which particulars failing in our case and judgment it must be erronious void and null to all intents 2ly By all the Presidents forms entries in Cooks 3 Institute● ch. 101. of Judgement old Book of Entries Fitzherbert Brook Statham Ash Title Judgement Treason Debt c. all entries and Records of Judgements in Parliaments and other Courts of Justice wherein no Judgement was ever yet given against many in the grosse as now against 200. Members or more without naming any of them but alwaies particularly by name the Judgment being else void in Law for its generality and incertainty as ours is wherein not one secluded Member is named nor in any Vote or Order for our suspension or exclusion 3ly It is a Maxim in Law (m) that no man ought to take advantage of his own covin or wrong much less be both a Judge and ●arty it being both against justice and reason too Therefore the minority of our fellow-Members cannot first seclude us out of the House by covin wrong armed force against our Rights Privileges the Protestation Covenant then as our Judge exclude us from sitting with them behind our backs only for dissenting from them in our Votes and Judgments crossing their own private Interests and Innovations repugnant to the publike Interest Peace and settlement of the Kingdom which we then endeavoured to effect 4ly The Statutes of 5 R. 2. c. 7. 15 R. 2. c. 2. 8 H. 6. c. 9. 31 Eliz. c. 11. prohibiting all entries into Houses Lands or Tenements where the entry is given by Law with strong hand or multitude of people and armed men but only in peaceable and easie manner or keeping possession thereof after peaceable entry by Force enabling all Justices of the Peace to view and remove such force and punish those who are found guilty of it upon Inquest by fine and imprisonment do questionlesse prohibit the entry of our secluders into the Commons House of Parliament by strong hand and multitudes of people and armed men against the usage Priviiege of Parliaments garded hitherto * Caritate Benevolentia Civium non armis And their keeping out the Majority of their fellow M●mbers by armed force and Votes without any colour of Law or reason but only their Vote therein Decemb. 5. may more justly expose them to Fines and imprisonments than any other forcible enterers into or detainers of other mens houses the whole Kingdom being prejudiced and dispossessed in their representatives by these forcible detainers of the Commons House 5ly The notable (p) Variance between their Orders of 1648. 1649. touching our suspension and seclusion wherein they alwaies stile themselves The House and This House as likewise in the body of their Order Decemb. 27. 1659. from their Vote of January 5. and their other Papers wherein they stile themselves The Parliament and the Parliament of the Commonwealth of England Scotland and Ireland and their Judgement the Judgement of the Parliament and from the Act of 17 Caroli c. 7. by which they pretend to fit which only stiles them the Commons in this present Parliament assembled and the House of Commons makes their Judgement void to all intents especially compared with the entry of their own Journal by their Clarke April 20. 1653. That they were dissolved on that day and so have no right now to sit by virtue of this Act or to pronounce any Vote or Judgement against us 3ly This Judgement and Vote against us is void and null by the Law of Nations the very Pagan Idolatrous Babylonians Persians Caldeans Romans and all other Nations condemning and sentencing no person or malefactor whatsoever but in his presence it being not their manner to condemn or censure any man before he who was accused had his Accusers brought face to face and had license to answer for himself concerning the crimes laid against him and was legally convicted of them and had his crimes mentioned in his mittim●● and Judgement they deeming it unreasonable to imprison or condemn any man and not withall to signifie the crimes laid against him as you may read at leasure 2 Kings 25. 6 7. Jer. 52. 9 10. Ezra 7. 25 26. Esth. 1. 12 to 22. c. 2. 1. Acts 23. 25. c. 24. 2 to 23. c. 25. 2 c. 16 17 18 27. in Alexander ab Alexandro Geni●lium Dierum l. 3. c. 5. Frederi●us Lindebrogus Codex Legum Antiquarum This being a principle amongst them * Qui aliquid statuerit parte inaudita altera licet rectè statuerit haud aequus est judex And that all their * senators ought to Vote freely in the senate and the Major Vote to sway Therfore our judgment exclusion without accusation hearing witnesses trial conviction behind our backs for our Major Vote must needs be most unjust and void if the very Heathens and laws of all Nations be Umpires between us our Ejectors Finally this Judgment and Vote is contrary to yea void null by the law of God the * righteous Judge of all the earth as appears by comparing it with Num. 35. 30. Deut. 17. 4 to 13. c. 19. 15. c. 16. 18 19 20. 2 Chron. 19. 5 6 7. John 7. 51. And condemned as unjust by the President of God himself