Selected quad for the lemma: judgement_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
judgement_n	king_n	parliament_n	treason_n	2,197	5	9.2136	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A45873	A confutation of a late paper entituled, An answer to the Lords protestation in a letter to a gentleman.	W. J.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench.	1681 (1681)	Wing I17; ESTC R7817	7,653	8

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