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will_v be_v better_o understand_v if_o we_o consider_v these_o thing_n i._o that_o many_o of_o they_o be_v mere_a negative_a testimony_n so_o 4_o edw._n iii_o at_o the_o trial_n of_o roger_n mortimer_n 6._o it_o be_v say_v the_o earl_n baron_n and_o peer_n of_o the_o realm_n be_v present_a therefore_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o 5_o edw._n iii_o only_o the_o great_a one_o return_v 9_o therefore_o the_o bishop_n do_v not_o so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o sir_n john_n grey_n from_o whence_o he_o infer_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o to_o judge_v so_o much_o as_o of_o a_o battery_n 10._o 25_o edw._n iii_o in_o sir_n william_n thorp_n case_n the_o grantz_n de_fw-fr parliament_n be_v ask_v their_o advice_n therefore_o not_o the_o bishop_n 13._o 1_o r._n ii_o in_o the_o case_n of_o weston_n and_o gomenitz_n the_o bishop_n not_o mention_v but_o other_o lord_n baron_n and_o banneret_n 16._o sir_n ralph_n the_o ferrer_n case_n 4_o r._n ii_o the_o bishop_n not_o present_a because_o not_o comprise_v under_o les_fw-fr signior_n de_fw-fr parliament_n the_o like_a in_o sir_n john_n oldcastle_n '_o s_o case_n 5_o h._n v._o 37._o the_o question_n he_o say_v be_v whether_o bishop_n be_v comprehend_v under_o les_fw-fr signior_n de_fw-fr cest_fw-fr present_a parliament_n in_o the_o earl_n of_o devonshire_n '_o s_o case_n 31_o h._n vi_o the_o strength_n lie_v in_o this_o 51._o that_o the_o peer_n be_v only_o mention_v and_o he_o suppose_v no_o man_n will_v say_v the_o bishop_n be_v his_o peer_n or_o lord_n of_o the_o realm_n so_o that_o here_o be_v eight_o precedent_n that_o be_v no_o more_o than_o negative_a testimony_n concern_v which_o in_o general_a 91._o the_o author_n of_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n assert_v have_v a_o good_a observation_n viz._n that_o one_o or_o two_o or_o twenty_o precedent_n in_o the_o negative_a nay_o i_o say_v more_o be_v the_o number_n equal_a as_o many_o in_o the_o negative_a as_o in_o the_o affirmative_a yet_o it_o can_v not_o disprove_v their_o jurisdiction_n it_o will_v only_o show_v their_o lordship_n be_v free_a agent_n to_o do_v it_o or_o not_o to_o do_v it_o as_o they_o see_v cause_n but_o their_o jurisdiction_n remain_v entire_a still_o to_o do_v it_o whensoever_o they_o will_v so_o i_o say_v here_o suppose_v that_o the_o spiritual_a lord_n be_v not_o present_a in_o these_o case_n it_o only_o show_v that_o they_o be_v free_a agent_n and_o may_v withdraw_v at_o some_o time_n and_o be_v present_a at_o other_o which_o can_v overthrow_v their_o right_n for_o these_o reason_n 1._o several_a of_o his_o negative_a precedent_n if_o they_o prove_v any_o thing_n prove_v the_o bishop_n be_v not_o there_o when_o he_o confess_v they_o may_v have_v be_v there_o as_o 1._o in_o case_n of_o misdemeanour_n at_o the_o trial_n of_o sir_n john_n de_fw-fr lee_n 11._o 42_o ed._n iii_o be_v charge_v with_o several_a misdemeanour_n the_o record_n say_v the_o prelate_n be_v present_a 50_o edw._n iii_o 12._o several_a person_n be_v accuse_v by_o the_o commons_o for_o misdemeanour_n and_o the_o bishop_n he_o confess_v be_v present_a as_o rich_a lion_n john_n lord_n latimer_n william_n ellis_n john_n peecher_n lord_n john_n nevil_n at_o all_o these_o trial_n the_o bishop_n say_v he_o be_v present_a and_o no_o body_n say_v but_o they_o may_v so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o alice_n perrer_n 14._o 50_o edw._n iii_o the_o record_n say_v the_o prelate_n be_v present_a and_o give_v judgement_n as_o to_o banishment_n and_o forfeiture_n of_o her_o estate_n 18._o 10_o r._n ii_o mich._n de_fw-fr la_fw-fr pool_n lord_n chancellor_n be_v accuse_v by_o the_o commons_o for_o several_a misdemeanour_n before_o the_o king_n prelate_n and_o the_o lord_n here_o he_o yield_v the_o prelate_n be_v judge_n of_o misdemeanour_n together_o with_o other_o lord_n and_o yet_o if_o several_a of_o his_o negative_a precedent_n do_v prove_v any_o thing_n they_o prove_v too_o much_o viz._n that_o the_o bishop_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v present_a 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the_o examination_n of_o a_o case_n capital_a what_o the_o importance_n of_o this_o phrase_n of_o full_a parliament_n be_v will_v best_o appear_v by_o the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o the_o record_n of_o that_o time_n 4_o ed._n iii_o n._n 6._o et_fw-la est_fw-la assentu_fw-la &_o accord_v per_fw-la nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr &_o touz_v les_fw-fr grantz_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n where_o it_o be_v agree_v that_o the_o proceeding_n at_o that_o time_n by_o the_o lord_n against_o those_o who_o be_v not_o peer_n shall_v not_o be_v draw_v into_o consequence_n and_o that_o the_o peer_n shall_v be_v charge_v only_o to_o try_v peer_n which_o have_v all_o the_o formality_n of_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o therefore_o all_o the_o estate_n be_v present_a n._n 8._o accord_n est_fw-la per_fw-la nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr &_o son_n conseil_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o pardon_n concern_v those_o who_o follow_v the_o earl_n of_o lancaster_n 5_o ed._n iii_o n._n 10._o we_o have_v the_o particular_a mention_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o some_o of_o those_o who_o do_v make_v a_o full_a parliament_n accord_n est_fw-la per_fw-la nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr prelatz_n countess_n baron_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n du_fw-fr roialm_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n and_o n._n 17._o en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n si_fw-la prierent_fw-la les_fw-fr prelatz_n countess_n baron_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n de_fw-fr mesme_fw-fr le_fw-fr parliament_n a_o nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr etc._n etc._n 6_o ed._n iii_o n._n 5._o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n make_v his_o oration_n en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n which_o be_v explain_v by_o en_fw-fr la_fw-fr presence_n nostre_fw-fr seigneur_fw-fr le_fw-fr roi_fw-fr &_o the_o touz_v les_fw-fr prelatz_n &_o autres_fw-fr grantz_n n._n 9_o si_fw-mi est_fw-la accord_n &_o assentu_fw-la per_fw-la touz_v en_fw-fr pleyn_n parliament_n who_o those_o be_v we_o be_v tell_v before_o in_o the_o same_o number_n viz._n les_fw-fr prelatz_n countess_n baronn_n &_o touz_v les_fw-fr autres_fw-fr somon_n a_o mesme_fw-fr le_fw-fr parliament_n which_o be_v the_o clear_a explication_n of_o full_a parliament_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o all_o those_o who_o be_v summon_v to_o parliament_n from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o where_o a_o full_a parliament_n be_v mention_v at_o that_o time_n the_o bishop_n be_v certain_o present_a and_o consequent_o do_v assist_v at_o the_o trial_n of_o thomas_n lord_n berkely_n who_o appear_v before_o the_o king_n in_o full_a parliament_n as_o nich._n de_fw-fr segrave_n do_v 33_o ed._n i._o and_o there_o the_o bishop_n be_v express_o mention_v as_o present_v as_o appear_v by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o concern_v his_o case_n 5_o h._n iu_o henry_n hotspur_n son_n to_o the_o earl_n of_o northumberland_n be_v declare_v a_o traitor_n by_o the_o king_n and_o lord_n in_o full_a parliament_n and_o the_o same_o day_n the_o father_n be_v upon_o examination_n acquit_v of_o treason_n by_o the_o peer_n it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o this_o be_v do_v in_o full_a parliament_n as_o the_o other_o be_v but_o there_o be_v several_a circumstance_n which_o make_v it_o very_o probable_a the_o bishop_n be_v then_o present_a 1._o when_o the_o earl_n of_o northumberland_n take_v his_o oath_n of_o fidelity_n to_o the_o king_n he_o do_v it_o say_v the_o record_n upon_o the_o cross_n of_o the_o archbishop_n which_o be_v to_o be_v carry_v before_o he_o if_o he_o go_v out_o of_o the_o house_n 2._o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n pray_v the_o king_n that_o forasmuch_o as_o himself_o and_o other_o bishop_n be_v suspect_v to_o be_v in_o piercie_n conspiracy_n that_o the_o earl_n may_v upon_o his_o oath_n declare_v the_o truth_n who_o thereupon_o do_v clear_v they_o all_o which_o show_v that_o the_o archbishop_n be_v then_o present_a in_o the_o house_n and_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n that_o he_o be_v present_a we_o 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their_o not_o be_v peer_n will_v be_v full_o refute_v afterward_o but_o that_o which_o put_v this_o out_o of_o dispute_n be_v 4._o that_o the_o record_n say_v n._n 17._o the_o commons_o not_o only_o give_v the_o king_n thank_v for_o the_o pardon_n of_o the_o earl_n of_o northumberland_n but_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a in_o these_o remarkable_a word_n et_fw-la auâ—i_fw-la mesme_n les_fw-fr cones_n remercierment_n les_fw-fr signior_n espirituelx_fw-fr &_o temporelx_fw-fr de_fw-fr lour_v bon_fw-fr &_o droiturell_n judgement_n quill_n avoient_fw-fr fait_fw-fr come_v peer_n du_fw-ge parliament_n and_o likewise_o the_o commons_o give_v thanks_o to_o the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a for_o the_o good_a and_o right_a judgement_n which_o they_o have_v give_v in_o this_o case_n as_o peer_n of_o parliament_n which_o be_v a_o clear_a precedent_n of_o the_o bishop_n judge_v in_o a_o capital_a case_n and_o that_o as_o peer_n 2_o h._n vi_o n._n 9_o john_n lord_n talbot_n 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