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A35696	Jus Cæsaris et ecclesiæ vere dictæ or, A treatise wherein independency, presbytery, the power of kings, and of the church, or of the brethren in ecclesiastical concerns, government and discipline of the church : and wherein also the use of liturgies, tolleration, connivence, conventicles or private assemblies, excomminication, election of popes, bishops, priests what and whom are meant by the term church, 18 Matthew are discoursed : and how I Cor. 14. 32. generally misunderstand is rightly expounded : wherein also the popes power over princes, and the liberty of the press, are discoursed / by William Denton ...	Denton, William, 1605-1691.	1681 (1681)	Wing D1066; ESTC R9164	326,898	268

which despiseth these things despiseth not Man but God but our Translation is he therefore that despiseth despiseth not Man but God And this despising God in his Vicar is called 1 Sam. 15.23 a kind of Idolatry Here are two very geat Clerks very opposite each to other How shall we poor Laicks now behave our selves when so great School-men cannot agree the point one accounting it a meritorious Act to resist and the other Rebellion and a kind of Idolatry not to obey Christ's Vicar First Gerson wrote 150 years before Bellarmine's answer came out being in a quiet and sedate temper not ingaged in any disputes and consequently without Bias and void of passion on the other side Bellarmine then living and deeply ingaged in that great Controversie between Rome and Venice about Temporal and Ecclesiastical Power and consequently more subject to passion and Interest very strong Biasses Let us now consider his Texts of Scripture and reasons the first is the part of the same Luke 10.16 as before and must in part receive the same Answer viz. he that despiseth you despiseth me which words were undoubtedly spoken to the Seventy Disciples which represented the Preachers which were to publish Christs Doctrine and not to Peter singly so that what power soever devolves by this Text on Christs Vicar it is but in common with the rest of his Fellow Priests and Bishops so that he can challenge nothing peculiar to himself from this Text. To this Text we will oppose and leave to their consideration Matth. 25.45 that at the day of Judgment Christ will say to the Reprobate Quatenus in as much as ye did it not to one of the least of these ye did it not to me and likewise we shall oppose the 18. Matth. 6. But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me it were better for him that a mill-stone were hanged about his Neck and that he were drowned in the depth of the Sea so that there is Authority of Scripture to shew that Christ takes it for an injury done unto himself that is done unto the least of his Faithful Servants But of Christs Vicar not one word not so much as once named in the whole Bible a term never heard of till about Anno 666. So that he which despiseth c. is alledged out of its natural sence by Bellarmine and in as much ye did it not c. alledged in its proper sence for that admonition or correction is indeed a work of Charity and incumbent on all Christians so it be done with prudence and with due observance of circumstances And on the contrary cum Authoritate imperare cum potentia is against Charity Besides the very construction of the words qui vos spernit c. cannot possibly bear it no more than Dic Ecclesiae can reasonably be understood of the Pope a single person for I never understood that Popes had Pigs in their Bellies tho I will not swear what Pope Joan had in her Weem when she was Delivered of a Son in the open Street as she went to St. John Laterans So that the 10. Luke 16. is to be understood of all Ministers in General among whom I will not deny His Holiness Quatenus a Priest or Bishop to have a right in Common with the rest of his Brethren but no other or greater For in the beginning Bishops and Priests were all one their Institution Commission Imploy and Duties were all one and the same and how when and by whom they came to be differenced and distinguished and an Ecclesiastical Regiment erected and regulated by * Canon Law Laws of their own making whereby they have Metamorphos'd it from a Democracy of all the Brethren together to an absolute Ecclesiastical Monarchy nay Tyranny of a Pope at Rome is not very hard to trace tho very hard to remedy If a Quaker like a bold Britain should Pilgrim it to Rome and there reprove and rebuke the Pope of Popish errors Superstitions and other false Doctrines and that by plain Scripture And the Pope should despise and scorn him not enduring sound Doctrine certainly at the day of Judgment qui vos spernit c. would be laid to the Charge of His Holiness and not unto the despicable Quaker assuredly whoever despiseth the word of truth tho in the mouth of the least of God's little ones despiseth Christ Teachings are not truth because uttered by the Supream Bishop Christ's Vicar the Head of all Christendom but because they are grounded on Scripture the word of Truth and so carry their own awe and warrant with them To the Law and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Isay 8.20 but they that will not hear Moses and the Prophets as no perverters of Scripture will will not be perswaded tho one arose from the Dead Luke 16.31 If the Apostles or an Angel from Heaven Preach any other Gospel than that which they have preached may not only be despised but accursed Gal. 1.8 then may not the Pope be despised that thus troubles the Church and labors to pervert the Gospel of Christ The next Scripture which he useth at the same rate is Qui haec spernit non hominem spernit sed Deum 1 Thes 4.8 He that despiseth these things despiseth not Man but God who hath also given unto us his Holy Spirit How is it possible that this citation can be to the purpose St. Paul assisted with the Holy Spirit applied qui haec spernit to such things there spoken by himself who could not erre v. 2 3 4 5 6 7. viz that ye should abstain from Fornication that every one of you should know how to possess his Vessel in Sanctification and honor not in the lusts of concupiscence even as the Gentiles which know not God c. How then can it now be applied to the Pope who for certain hath no other assistance of the Holy Ghost than the rest of his Brethren Neither yet hath he said himself nor his Sycophants for him that he hath any extraordinary Assistance of the Holy Ghost saving only when he doth determine a matter de Fide ex Cathedra and not when he gives Orders in a Stable How can he then freely and righteously according to their own Doctrine in a Decree or an Extravagant which is not in a matter of Faith say qui haec spernit c. he that despiseth these things c. When the Pope shall teach and command Gods own Indubitable Precepts we will not complain of him if he add with all that he that despiseth c. but to equal Popes to St. Paul and their Decrees and Extravagants to Canonical Scripture and make them subservient to their Dictates and Expositions Is not this to make them lyable to the Plagues denounced against them that add or diminish from Gods word Rev. 22.18 And is it not a strange Phanatick presumption and

Preachings they did censure the affairs of the State and Council convocate general Assemblies without his Licence conclude what they thought good not once desiring his Allowance and Approbation and in their Synods Presbyteries and particular Sessions meddle with every thing upon colour of scandal Besides divers other disorders which at an other time he would propound and have reformed else it was vain to think of any agreement or that the same being made could stand and continue any while Whilest these conferences lasted these just complaints of the King were verifyed and made good by all the Presbyteries in the person of Mr. David Blake one of the Ministers of St. Andrews with whom they sided and whom they defended to their utmost This David Blake in a Sermon uttered divers spightful speeches against the King and Queen the Lords of the Council and Session and had called the Queen of England an Atheist a Woman of no Religion of which her Ambassador complaining to the King he was cited to appear before the Council 10. Novemb. Mr. Andrew Melvil accompanying him to Edenburgh did labour to make this a common cause giving out that the same was done only as a preparative against the Ministers to bring their Doctrine under the censure and controulment of the King and Council and so far he prevailed with the Commissioners of the Church as they sent certain of their number to entreat the deserting of the Diet saying it would be ill taken to draw Ministers in question upon trifling delations very trifling matters as you will see by the Articles against him when as the enemies of the truth were spared and overseen Proud Presbyters Paul himself submitted his doctrines to the Test and judgment of his Auditory Judge ye what I say and yet these insolent Priests may defame Princes Councils Parliaments and say and do what they please impune No man must say why do ye so a shrewd sign their Coyn is not currant when it will not abide the Touch-stone They farther gave out that the Ministers were troubled for the free rebuke of sin and sinners and the Scepter of Christs Kingdom sought to be overthrown The process they said intended against Mr. Blake was but a Policy to divert the Ministers from prosecuting their Suit against Popish Earles and if he should submit his doctrine to the tryal of the Council the liberties of the Church and spiritual Government of the House of God would be quite subverted and therefore they concluded that in any case a Declinator should be used and protestation made against these proceedings whereupon a Declinator was framed and presented by Blake viz. that seeing he was brought thither to be judged by his Majesty and Council for his doctrine and that his answering to the pretended accusation might import a Prejudice to the liberties of the Church and be taken for an acknowledgment of his Majesties Jurisdiction in matters meerly spiritual He was constrained in all Humility to decline that Judicatory because the Lord Jesus of whom he had the grace of his calling had given him his Word for a Rule for his Preaching and that he could not fall in the reverence of any Civil Law but in so far as he should be tryed to have passed his instructions which Tryal belonged only to the Prophets and Pastors the spirit of the Prophets being subject to them alone For this and other reasons in the said Declinator alledged He for himself and in the name of the Commissioners of the general Assembly who had subscribed the same Declinator by which it appears that Blake was not herein a single but a publick person and that these desperate Tenets were the Tenets of the whole Presbytery and not of Blake singly did humbly beseech his Majesty not to infringe the liberty of the Church but manifest his care in maintaining the same i. e. in words at length and not in figures that his Majesty would subject his Regality to their Presbytery and be to them a King indeed but yet no otherwise then the stump of Wood was to the Frogs in the Fable a quiet and tame Idol whom every Frog every waspish Presbyter may play upon and securely dance about Now let us see his Peccadilloes not only charged but strongly proved against him viz. 1o. That he affirmed in Pulpit that the popish Lords were returned into the Country with his Majesties knowledge and on his Assurance and said that in so doing he had detected the Treachery of his Heart 2ly that he had called all Kings the Devils Barnes adding that the Devil was in the Court and in the Guiders of it 3ly In his Prayer for the Queen he had used these words We must pray for her for the Fashion but we have not cause for she will never do us good so that we have little reason to pray for her 4ly That he had called the Queen of England an Atheist 5ly That he had discuss'd a suspention granted by the Lords of the Session in Pulpit and called them Miscreants and Bribers 6ly That speaking of the Nobility he said they were degenerated Godless Dissemblers and Enemies to the Church likewise speaking of the Council he called them Holy-glasses Cormorants men of no Religion 7ly That he had convocated divers Noblemen Barons and other within St. Andrews in June 1594. caused them to take Armes and divide themselves in Troops of Horse and Foot and had thereby usurped the Power of the King and Civil Magistrate The Summons being read he desired to be remitted to his own Ordinary hereby meaning the Presbytery where the Doctrine was taught contending that speeches delivered in Pulpit all be it alledged to be Treasonable could not be judged by the King till the Church by which term they always mean themselves first took cognisance thereof and thereupon delivered the Declinator The King notwithstanding in favour of him deferred farther proceedings herein till the last of November In the mean time the Commissioners for the Church took advantage of his favour and sent a Copy of the Declinator with a Letter to all the Presbyteries requiring them to subscribe the same and to commend the cause in hand in their publick and private Prayers to God using their best credit with their flocks and employing all their labours for the maintenance thereof This their stirring up of Subjects against their King extorted from the King by the advice of his Council a Proclamation discharging the said Commission as unlawful in it self and more unlawfully executed by the said Commissioners commanding six of them to depart to their several Flocks within 24 hours and not to return to act therein under pain of Rebellion Upon notice of this intended Proclamation the Commissioners resolved that since they were convened by the Warrant of Christ in a most needful and dangerous time to see unto the good of the Church ne quid ecclesia detrimenti caperet they should obey God rather than Man notwithstanding any charge that should be given

their desires tho but modest will give the party encouragement to believe that they were deservedly desired nay perhaps that they were enforced which opinion alone tho not true but believed to be so might endanger the quiet State of the Church or at least might be a great abetting to their party and obstinacy and keep others from Assenting and Consenting which say some amongst us ought not to be imposed affirming full Assent and Consent in respect of Veracity to be due not to the Scriptures themselves but as they are expressed in their first Original Tongues which opinion if true yet is it no just objection with us for that full Assent and Consent is not required by the Ast of Parliament establishing our Liturgy to the veracity of every thing contained therein but only to the use of it in general § On the contrary in Ballance to these it is averred that it is a Rule in Christian Actions that as evil is not to be done that good may follow so no good of obligation is to be omitted or forbidden for fear that evil may ensue And that the great Wisdom of Experience both of Elder and more puny dayes hath sufficiently taught Posterity that it is sometimes most necessary for the quiet and welfare both of Church and State to yield to the infirmities and scrupulous imperfections of others and to apply and accommodate themselves to that remedy which tho in rigor is not due yet in prudence and equity is convenient and may with good Conscience be tollerated for all Laws ought to be fitted to times and Persons as they alter and change most assuredly the using of some remission in yielding unto the desires of the People in matters which are de jure positivo or Pontisicio of humane sanction only may conduce to the quiet State of the Church but cannot disturb it what else is the whole Regiment or Brigade of things Adiaphorous wherein truth may be on either side without being dissimular to her self If no liberty allowed what availeth the blotting out the hand Writing of ordinances and the Nailing of it to the Cross 2 Col. 14.20 to what end is the purchase of Christian Liberty St. Paul so often boasts of his Doctrine is that he that eats all things or eateth Herbs only or he that esteems one day above another or he that esteems every day alike may do either to the Lord and Eat or not Eat regard or not regard a day Conform or not Conform use or not use Liturgies all may be done to the Lord and why should we then judge one another in the use or disuse of any of these the Kingdom of God is not Meat nor Drink nor Lawn Sleeves nor Surplice nor Capes nor Miter but Righteousness and Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost 14. Rom. How many things of an indifferent nature might be tollerated in peace and left to Conscience only were it not for great thoughts of heart or for testy Spirits and had we instead thereof but pure Love and Charity and were it not for some secret Hypocrisie that prompts to be ever judging one another saying stand by thy self come not near me for I am Holyer than thou 65 Isay 5. contrary to the Apostolical precept 14 of Rom. 13. let us not therefore judge one another any more but judge this rather that no Man put a slumbling Block or an occasion to fall in his Brothers way to impose more things as necessary than ever God made or imposed as necessary and that under severities what is it less than to create stumbling Blocks or contrive occasions for our Brethren to stumble and fall by It cannot be expected that all Man and things in a Church should be Gold and Silver and Precious Stones there will be some Wood some Hay some Stubble Wheat and Tares good and bad humane Ordinances must grow till the Harvest it is the Angels Ministery not ours that must sever them I intend not here that Superstitions Idolatry or Popery should be tollerated or countenanced which as it self extirpates all pure Religion and undefiled and all civil Supremacies to boot so it self ought utterly to be destroyed Root and Branch yet not by Fire and Faggot not by Crusadoes and cursed Inquisitions but by wholsome Laws and discountenances and other mild means that likewise which is absolutely evil either against Faith or manners as Popery is no Law can possibly Tollerate that intends not to unlaw it self but those bordering indifferent things whether of some point of Doctrine not fundamental or of Discipline which tho they may be many yet may be held without the violation or interruption of the unity of the Spirit or of the bond of Peace and may be permitted I appeal to their respective Judgments who they think in the day of their Account will rather be justified they that are instrumental to Impose or Command things that may be spared in the Worship of God or they that Conscientiously tho Erroneously cannot submit unto the use of such things tho in their own and true nature but indifferent Who made the Schisme between Rome and us Rome imposing or we refusing § The Counsel tho but of a poor Woman of Abel being sollowed saved the City and may not I tho the least in the Church of the New Testament Pleading thus impartially pro and con Dissenters now also intreat that Dissenting Brethren in point of Liturgies and Ceremonies imposed that seeing Atheism Apostacy and squinting toward Rome and the countenancing of sin and sinners is so much feared by them that they would be well advised how they forsake their Mother in this her necessity and not so wholly indulge and please themselves in their own fancies and opinions and thereby adventure rather to Sacrifice Church and State to Schism War and Ruine than forsake their Humors I counsel no Man to do ought no not in things in different with a doubting Conscience Fearful are the Examples of such as are unresolved yield to Practice Notwithstanding give me leave with a Worthy and Reverend Divine to propound as a matter not unworthy their Consideration and Deliberation whether this should not be a Ministers resolution viz. To lay down his Ministery for nothing for which also he ought not to lay down his Life and whether with Comfort may Ministers especially after their allowing of our Liturgy and Ceremonies at the time of their Ordination and by their several Subscriptions and otherwise having thus put their hands to the Plough look back and leave their Calling rather than use the Liturgy and enjoyned Ceremonies in our Church teaching as she doth and practising Gods pure Worship detesting all Idolatry and Superstition and urging Ceremonies Innocent Ceremonies not for Ornament much less for necessity of Gods Service but for decency order and policy only and as means to testifie Subscription to the Lawful Power of the Magistrate I appeal to your selves do you in good earnest think that Paul who accounted