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A88211	The lawes funerall. Or, An epistle written by Lieutenant Col. John Lilburn, prisoner in the Tower of London, unto a friend of his, giving him a large relation of his defence, made before the judges of the Kings bench, the 8. of May 1648. against both the illegal commitments of him by the House of Lords, and the House of Commons, ...	Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657.	1648 (1648)	Wing L2130; Thomason E442_13; ESTC R210612	38,933	34

in Irons for High-Treason in levying Warre by the Parliaments Command against the King he nobly told me he would give me the utmost priviledge that the Law of England would afford me and further declared unto me it was my right by Law to plead for my selfe and say whatsoever I could for my selfe which he freely without any interruption gave me leave to do and Sir I hope you will not be more unjust unto me then the Pagan Roman Judges were to Paul or the Caviliers to my selfe at Oxford in denying me my priviledge to speake and plead for my selfe Whereupon Mr. Justice Bacon replied and said Sir it is a favour that you are permitted to plead by councell Sir said I by your favour I doe not judge it so and besides I desire Mr. Iustice Bacon with all respect unto you and desire to let you know I do not com here to beg boones or courtisies at your hands but I come here to claime my right do with confidence tell you Sir that it is not only my undoubted naturall right by the light and Law of nature yea and by the ancient common Law of England to plead my owne cause my selfe if I please but it is also the naturall and undoubted right of every individuall Englishmen yea and of every man upon the face of the Earth in what Countrey soever and therefore Sir I demand from you liberty to specke frealy for my selfe not only by the Law of nature but also by the ancient Common law of England freely telling you that I Judge my cause of that consequence to my selfe and all the Commons of England that I will trust never a Lawyer in the Kingdome to plead for me and therefore againe demand to as my right leave to plead my selfe the which if you will not grant me I have done and haue no more to say to you whereupon the Iudges commanded the lawyers to make me roome and called me closse to the Barr where I did my respect unto them and they caused the returne to be read which consisted of my commitment from the Lords the 11 of Iuly 1646 my commitment from the Commons 19 Ian 1647 and a late order of the commons to command the Lievetenant of the Tower upon removeall of his prisoners not to remove the 4 Aldermen nor Sir Iohn Maynard nor my selfe which returne in the conclusion hereof I shall insert and then as I conceive because some of the returne was latten Iudge Bacon askt me if I understood it and I said yes for I had cause enough given me so to doe whereupon he begun to tell me I might easily perceive I was Committed by the Lords upon a Centence and begun to amplifie their power as a superior court whose actions were not to be questioned or controled by the Judges of the Kings Bench because they were inferior to them Unto which I replied Sir I desire the returne may be ordered to be entered upon record and this I pressed diverse times and desired that if the Lieutenant had any thing to add to the returne he might now speak or else forthwith it might be made a record and he thereby debarred of making additions to it which was accordingly done and then I pressed to be hard and said Mr. Justice Bacon I desire to keep you close to my businesse which is thus I am in prison and having no crime laid unto my charge by those that do commit me as clearly appears unto your Honor by the returne for generalls you know better then I doe are no charge nor crimes in Law and therefore according to the law I crave leave to make my exceptions against the return when I have done I shall willingly submit my discourse my cause and my person to your Judgements and consciences but I pray heare what I can say for my selfe and my liberty or if you will not command me silence I will obey you And then Mr. Justice Roll spoke like wise to the Lords power and would also have staved me of from going on but I prest still to be heard what I could say against the returne and he prest me to keepe close unto it and not be extravigant in medling with impertinences but I told him I did not know what he would judge impertinences therefore prest hard to be heard telling him if I spoke that which by Law I could not Justifie they might the easier tript up my heales but I assured him I was an honorer of Magistracy as being the chiefe meanes God had appointed to keepe the world in order and therefore I was resolved to speak with all honour respect both unto their office and persons so I had leave granted to go on and having my plea in a readinesse writ I put on my spectacles held it before me as the Lawyers do there Briefes and begun and said as was contained in my paper which I shall give you as I had pend it before I came to the barre though I confes I had many bickering interruptions by both the Iudges which in the best manner my memory will serve me I shall note in the Magent as I goe on with my discourse which thus followeth Mr. Justice Bacon I doe ingeniously confesse that I judge Universall safety to be above all Law and that it is the ouldest Law of any in the Kingdom and therefore I shall not dispute in the least the Parliaments irregular actions that they were necessitated too for common preservation in the height of the Warres but the Warres being ended as they themselves declare they are in their late Declaration against the Scotch Commissioners and thereby the affaires of the Kingdome reduced into a more peaceable and hopefull condition then heretofore wherefore I may now groundedly from the full streame of all their Declarations and promises expect challenge and looke for the absolute benefit of the Law and the common justice of England in the ordinary courts of Justice thereof which they have declared and promised they will not now enterrupt See their Declaration of the 17. of April 1646. 2 Part. Book Declam pag. 879 and their Ordinance of none addresses to the King in Ianuary last where they promise the people though they lay the King aside yet they will notwithstanding governe them by the Law and not to interrupt the ordinary course of Justice in the ordinary courts thereof And therefore Mr. Justice Bacon I am not a little glad that I stand before you at this Barre of Justice which is bounded by the Law where I never was before for seeing that the great Judge of all the world Stiles himselfe to be a God of judgement Esa 30.18 and further saith of himselfe That I the Lord love judgement and hate robbery for burnt offerings Esai 61.8 and therefore layes his command upon Judges those gods upon earth Psal 82.6 That they shall defend the Poore and Fatherlesse and doe justice to the afflicted and needy and deliver them out

told them I was willing to give the Lords as much Jurisdiction without dispute as they desired to Judg condemn and destroy one another so they would not meddle with me nor my fellow Commoners and I was confident if the Lords distinctly as a single House had any Jurisdiction at all in Law it was but over themselves and as much of which as they please to take I am willing without dispute to grant them the second place That the House of Commons have no judgment or Jurisdiction by Law clearly appears by their own confession in the roul of Parlialiament in the 1. H. 4. Membr 14. Num. 79. which this present April I had under Mr. William Riley the Record-Keepers hand which at the Bar I am ready to produce and which thus in English verbatim followeth The third day of November the Commons made their Protestation in manner as they made it at the beginning of the Parliament and over and above declare to the King That forasmuch as the Judgment of Parliament belongs only to the King and to the Lords and not to the Commons unless it please the King of his grace especially shewed them that the said Iudgment was for their ease and no record shall be made in Parliament against the said Commons that they are or shall be parties to any judgments given or to be given hereafter in Parliament To which was answered by the Archbishop of Canterbury by the Kings command that the said Commons shall be Petitioners and Demanders and that the King and the Lords at all times have had and shall have by right the Iudgment in Parliament in manner as the said Commons have shewed unless it be in Statute affairs or in grants and subsidies or in such things and affairs for common profit of the Kings Realms the King will have their especial advice and assent and that this Order be kept in all times to come And so much at present for the 2d essential of a warrant And now I come to give a touch and but a touch only upon the third ingredient to make a mittimus lawful and that is that it be under hand and seal expressing the office and place of him which makes it unless the party be committed in the sight of the Judg sitting in open Court but there is no seal to mine and therefore it is illegal for I was not in the view of my pretended Judges when they committed me But Mr. Justice Bacon I come to the fourth thing upon which at present as one of the principal essentials I shall stifflly stand which is That the warrants of my Commitments both from Lords and Commons now returned before you are illegal there being nothing but generals laid unto my charge by them which is no charge nor crime in Law and therefore both my warrants wanting a legal and a particular cause in them there is no colour in Law to keep my body in prison by vertue of them Now to prove that Generals are no crimes nor charges in Law though the dayly and continual practises of all the Courts of Iustice in England prove it yet for illustration sake I shall crave leave to alledg some legal Authorities And in the First place I shall begin with the Judgement of Sir Edward Cooke upon the Statute of breaking of prisons made 1 Ed. 2. who in his 2. part institutes fo 591. expresly saith seeing the weight of this businesse touching this point to make an escape either in the party or in the Gealours Fellony dependeth upon the lawfulnesse of the Mittimus it will be necessary to say somwhat hereof First it must be in writing in the name and under the seale of him that makes the same expressing his Office place and authority by force whereof he makes the Mittimus and it is to be directed to the Goaler or Keeper of the Goale or Prison Secondly it must containe the cause as it expresly appeareth by this Act * 25. Ed. 3. Coran 134. and 32. Ed. 3. Coram 248. and 9. Ed. 4. fol. 52. unlesse the cause for which he was taken c. but not so certainly as an indictment ought and yet with such convenient certainty as it may appeare judicially that the offence requires such a judgement as for High-Treason to wit AGAINST THE PERSON OF OVR LORD THE KING or for the counterfetting of the money of our Lord the King or for petty Treason namely for the death of such a one being his Master or for Fellony to wit for the death of such a one c. or for blurgary or robbery c. or for Fellony for stealing of a horse c. or the like so as it may in such a generality appeare judicially that the offence required such a judgement and he there further goes on gives divers arguments reasons scites abundance of law authorities to prove that a particular cause ought by Law to be expressed in every Mittimus or Warrant of Commitment My second proofe to prove generalls are no charge in Law is the deliberate and resolved opinion of all the Judges of England in the 3 yeare of King Iames which was a time of full peace wherein the law had its free currant without the threates of Marciall or the checks of Prerogative arbitrary power and therefore the Judgement is of more weight who in their answer to the 22. object on or article of Archbishop Bancroft and to the whole Clergy of England hath those very words we do not neither will we in any wise impugne the Ecclesiasticall authority in any thing that appertaineth unto it but if any by the Ecclesiasticall authority commit any man to prison upon complaint unto us that he is imprisoned without just cause we are to send to have the body and to be certified the cause and if they will not certifie unto us the particular cause but generally without expressing any particular cause whereby it may appeare unto as to be matter of ecclesiasticall cognizance and his imprisonment be just then we do and ought to deliver him and this say the Judges is the Clergies ●ault and not ours and although some of us have dealt with them to make some such particular Certificate to us whereby we may be able to judge upon it as by Law they ought to do yet they will by no meanes do it and therefore their errour is the cause of the thing they complaine of and no fault in us for if we see not a just cause of the parties imprisonment by them then we ought and are bound by Oath to deliver him and sutable to this is their answer to the Clergies 21. Article which Articles and answers are recorded in 2. part instit fo 614.615.616 My 3. proofe to prove that Generalls are no crimes in Law is out of the 4. part instit fo 39. where the Lord Cooke expresly saith That a man by law cannot be attainted of High-Treason unlesse the offence be in Law high treason for

me that now before them I had said for my self because my adversaries were transcendantly pocent who by their wills and pleasures had in some kind destroyed men of more power and greatnesse then all the Lawyers at the Bar and therefore Sir though I am acquainted with some Lawyers that sometimes plead at this Bar. yet peradventure my respects and obligations may be such unto them that it cannot stand with honour justice or conscience for me to desire them to plead my cause seeing I am confident they cannot do it with safety and for me to expect that from them or put that upon them that in mine owne conscience I do verily believe will be their ruine in their practise and lively hoods when I am not able in any reasonable manner to requite them I should in my owne thoughts render my selfe the basest and unworthiess of men Whereupon Mr. Justice Bacon begun to speake and to make a kind of reply or answer unto divers of the things I had infisted upon and told me that Sir Edward Cooke in the 4. Part of his instituts whom he did see I had very much studied saith That no inferiour Court could meddle to question Judgements of Parliament and after a pretty large speech told me I was committed upon a centence from a Superiour Court whose judgements by Law they neither were able nor could controule and therefore must of necessity remand me back again and after he had done I replyed Sir it is true the Judgements of Parliament is not to be questioned by inferiour Courts alwaies provided they meddle with that which by Law appertaines to the Judgement of the Parliament which the executing of Lawes in the Originall Judgeing and desiding of deferences doth not the least And besides Mr. Justice Bacon you doe not I hope in Law Judge the Lords House singly or the House of Commons single to be the Parliament true it is sir severall statutes in Queene Elizabeths time as the 27. Chap. 8. 31. ch 1. provides That if any find himselfe agreeved by false judgements in the inferior Courts he shall if he please by a Writ of Error sue in the high Court of Parliament which I cannot beleeve in Law is meant the Lords House *⁎* And it is the most irrationall thing in the world to say that legally no Law can be binding but that which is made by the consent of the King Lords and Commons and yet to prefor a single judgement of the Lords made without all forme shaddow colour or pretence of Law above all the Acts of Parliament made for 3. or 400. yeares together for this I will offer to all the Lawyers in England and challeng them to shew me one Statute or a peece of a Statute to justifie the Lords proceedings against me in Law and I will be willing to lose my head and to bee cut in ten thousand peeces and besides it is most irrationall for the Lords who never pertended to any power but what they derived from the King to immagine or go about to make the world beleeve that they can by their wills destroy all the Lawes of England as in their dealing with me they have done when the King their fountain of power can doe no Judiciall action but by his Courts of Justice and that in the legall method manner or processe of the Law although by Law a thousand times more is given and instated into him then unto all the Lords of England and for the truth of this see the 2. part inst f. 168 186. 187 yea if the King imprison me illegally by his owne Warrant either in matter or form I have my remedy against him at law as appears by the Act that abolished the Star-Chamber and therefore it is the height of erationally to conceive or say that the Lords will shall be Lord Paramount above the will of the King their Fountain and Creator and the power of the Law which is above Him from whom they derive all they have or can pretend vnto and I am sure the law tells me that in the Courts of Justice which is established and bounded by the law and is administred adjudged and executed by sundry Judges and Ministers of the Law is betrusted a full and ample power for tryall of property of lands and goods and for the conservation of the people of this Realm in peace and quietnesse but I am sure by the Judges remitting of me back to prison there is a failer of Justice which the Law abhors and an insufficiency in the Law to deliver me from destruction by lust will and pleasure and therefore without dispute slaves are the people of Eng. in the highest and slaves they must continue if they spedily rouse not up their spirits stand stifly for their rights single for the further and due examination of the said judgement in such manner as is used in erroneous judgments in the Court of Kings Bench but the law gives not the Parliament much lesse the single House of Lords the least cognizance in the world originally to meddle with any thing betwixt party and party and if they doe I am sure by the law in force at this day it is corum non judicii but the Lords originally summoned me to their Bar be for any charge exhibited or any indictment proferred or any visible complanant or prosecutor appearing and their high commission and Span●sh I● quisition-like examined me upon interrogatories and so committed me to prison for which they have no shadow of ground in law Whereupon Mr. Justice Roll stept up confirmed that which his Brother Bacon had already said telling me that the Chancery and the Court of Admirals proceedings were diverse from those statutes I had alleadged as well as the proceedings in Parliament were and yet were Lex terrae and it is positively said he the law of the Land that an inferiour court as ours is cannot reverse the judgment of a superiour Court as the Lords are which we must of necessity do if we should release you which we cannot doe if we would without medling with the merit of the cause from the beginning and then the way ought to be by writ of Errour which said he will not lye in this Court in a Judgment given in the Lords House and therefore you must rest content it had been well for you you had pleaded these things before the Lords in your plea there aaginst their jurisdiction Sir said I I did so and they sent me to prison therfore not only so but in Newgate close imprisoned me therefore and would not suffer my wife to come into the Prison yard so much as to speak with me I also appealed to the House of Commons and solely put my selfe upon their Justice and Judgement but I sound them for almost these two years together deaf both unto Justice Law and reason and now as my last legall refuge I come to you after I have been almost two years in

Prison for nothing as clearely appeares by the whole return which only consists in generals generals are no crim● in Law therefore Sir J beseech you tell me whether the Law of England be so imperfect that it hath provided no remedy to preserve a man from destruction by lust will and pleasure but if it have not then Sir I must ingenuously tell you so much am I an Englishman and free from the principals of slavery that though I have suffered and undergone with some kind of patience almost two yeares imprisonment without any cause but onely by the power of lust will and pleasure that I professe before you both and this whole auditory that were I this day put to my choise I had rather chuse to combate one by one with 20. of the stoutest men that steps upon English ground though I were sure to bee cut in a thousand pieces thereby then willingly to be Captived in Prison two yeares longer by the power of Lust will and pleasure without the hopes of any remedy but from those that tyrannize over mee FOR TO BE A SLAVE IS BELOWE ME or any man that is a man but if this be good Law which you declare unto me then perfect slaves are we indeed Again Sir is for that Law of Parliament you talk of I had thought England had had but one Law to be governd by hat that had bin a visible and a declared Law and not a Law in mens breasts not to be knowne till they please to declare it and then when they do it shall every day crosse it self and ebbe and slow according to successe Sir this is no Law at all and therefore here can bee no transgression against it but if you mean a Law in being but yet kept so close in holes and corners that none can come to see it or read it but only the executors of it this is as bad as no Law at all and as good living in Turky as under such an unknown Law But Sir to lay aside all these dubious disputes about Jurisdiction and Parliament Laws and Laws in the ordinary Courts of Justice and suppose the Lords have a power of Jurisdiction in the present case to sentence me if really I had committed a crime and suppose but no more that you are an inferiour Court and cannot legally reverse or take cognizance of their Judgments yet I desire to keep you close to my return which shew clearly that I am imprisoned for nothing and thereby rondred an innocent and just man and therefore I demand positively your judgments in that whether it be so or no And secondly whether the Law hath not provided a remedy for me and for my deliverance from under any power in England in case I be imprisoned by them for nothing unto which as I remember both the Judges spoke to it in the foregoing manner and if I wrong them not which I would be very leath to do in the conclusion of their spaeches both of them ingenuonsly confessed that by my return it did appear I was imprisoned without any crime in law laid unto my charge but yet being committed by a superiour Court the Lords and that upon a sentence they could not in Law relieve me Whereupon I earnestly pressed to be heard but a few words more which was granted and I very soberly said Mr. Justice Bacon I have been forth in service to fight for the Laws and Liberties of England against those men that the Parliament made me and divers others believe would have destroyed them and I was I confesse very zealous to presse others to do as I did But Sir had it then been told me by those that set me at work or had I in my own breast believed i● that the issus of all our fightings should have beene contured in making the people of the Kingdom slaves or that all our fighting should have contributed to nothing so much as to inable a company of men sitting here at Westminster called LORDS and COMMONS arbytrarily by their lusts wils and pleasures to have raigned and ruled over us I would have been so far from killing of Cavaseers that I would rather with my own hand have beene my own executioner then to have murdered men to satisfie the lusts of others But seeing it is as it is and that I have been so grosly mistaken in these mens promises oathes Declarations and ingagements which now they judge as nothing but have throwns them all behind their backes I shall recant my error in beleeving of them and perswading others to doe i● and shall desire to be setled in that which is truth which is now to beleeve them noemore and instead of being zelous to provoke the People to stand up for there Lawes at their commands I shall be very sorry for that error or mistake or I clearely see thore is none in England of any more strength then a piece of soft wax nor the People by there great Lordly promises were never intended other then to be Vassels and slave * Yea the most miserablist of slaves b●ing first in sabjection to a Statute Law and if they transgresse that then the Judges of the Law are ready to distroy both life and Estate therefore secondly to a Law of Ordinances and if they transgesse that which is sufficiently contradicttory in it selfe then they shall by one Arbitrary Committee or other hazard the loss● of all they have with out any witnesses sworne against them or any Jury pinnelld or it may be any complaint in writting preferrd against them but they shall be distroyed by the will and descration of the Committes for such proceedings contrary to the fundamentall Law of the Land both Dudley and E●son Privie Cou●cellers were hanged though they had an Act of Parliament to autherize their doings as appears 2. part insti fo 51.3 part insti fo 2●8 and 4. part insti fo 41.196.197.198 but yet if a man be never so observiant of both the Law and Parliament Ordinances yet thirdly Parliament Lords and Commons have a Law paramount above them both and which as pleasure shall null them both and neither of them shall be any protection unto you and that it their law of will lust and pleasure more exercised put in use by them then both the former so that of necessi●ie slaves in the highest are all Englishmen now being under 3. distinct Lawes for their destruction but can injoy the benefit of never a one for their preservation and therefore for the Parliament to make Judges of the Law to executed is but a mooking and cheating of the people for they have left them none to execute but have superseded it every line with the Law of thir lusts wills and pleasures for all their lying promises in all their Declarations to the contrary therefore all ye true hatted Englishmen awake awake looke wel about before the midnight of slavery sease upon you and therefore Sir I shall now