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A40898 The imposter dethron'd, or, The Quakers throne of truth detected to bee Satans seat of lyes by way of reply to a quaking and railing pamphlet written by Capt. Bishop entituled, The throne of truth exalted over the powers of darkness wherein is briefly hinted the rottenness of the Quakers conversion and perfection ... / by Ralph Farmer. Farmer, Ralph. 1658 (1658) Wing F441A; ESTC R24036 94,861 136

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which is as followeth Faulconers Examination Who saith THat about a Fortnight before the conclusion of the Treaty at Breda the Lord Craven the Queen of Bohemia and her two Daughters came to Breda to the Scots King Charles and went not thence till the King went to Housleidike a house of the Prince of Oranges that during that time this Informant saw the Lord Craven divers times in presence with the said King and every day with the said King at the Court there hee being there with the Queen of Bohemia and her two daughters to take their leave as they said of the King of Scots before hee went to Scotland That several Officers about thirty in number made a Petition to the said King to entertain them to fight for him against the Commonwealth of England by the name of barbarous and inhumane Rebels either in England or Scotland for the recovering of his just rights and re-instating him in his Throne and deputed this Informant and Colonel Drury to present the said Petition who indeed drew the same that when the Informant and some other Officers came to the Court at Breda intending to present the said Petition immediately to the Kings hand but finding the Lord Craven very neer to him likewise the Marquess of New-castle who presented his brother Sir Charles Cavendish to kiss the said Kings hand the evening before the said Kings departure who this Informant saw kiss the Kings hand accordingly The Lord Wilmot the Earl of Cleveland the Queen of Bohemia the Lord Gerrard c. and a great bustle of business This Informant with Colonel Drury applied themselves to the Lord Craven entreating him to present the Petition to the Queen of Bohemia to present it to the King of Scots The said Lord Craven taking the Petition and reading the same cheerfully said to Colonel Drury and this Informant there is the Queen of Bohemia deliver it to her and I will speak for you upon which they applyed themselves to the said Queen and shee presented the Petition after which the King of Scots the Lord Craven the Marquess of New-castle the Queen of Bohemia with some other Lords went into a with-drawing room where this Informant and company could not enter but the Lord Craven came forth of the with-drawing Chamber and told this Informant and company that they should receive an answer from the Queen of Bohemia to their Petition and that hee had spoken to the Queen of Bohemia in their behalf who afterward came and told this Informant and company that shee had delivered their Petition and that the King had taken order for it The next morning at three of the clock the King departed but this Informant and company had their quarters satisfied by the Princesse of Orange according to the said Kings Order upon their Petition and thereby to inable them to follow the said King in the prosecution of these wars against the Parliament of England which was the effect of their aforesaid Petition That this Informant saw the Lord Craven very often and familiar with the said King and enter with the said King into the with-drawing Chamber and staid there the last night the said King was at Breda very late Richard Faulconer To this were added these two following examinations Colonel Hugh Reyleys Examination Who saith THat during the late Treaty at Breda this Informant did oftentimes see my Lord Craven with the now King of Scots in his Bed-chamber and also walked abroad with him there being no man more conversant with the King than hee That the said Lord Craven during the said Treaty did twice go to Rotterdam and Dunhagh and back again being imployed as was commonly reported at Court there by the said King that the said Lord Craven had a charge from the King to look to one Mrs. Barlow who as is reported and he believes to bee true had a childe by the King of Scots born at Rotterdam which hee did and after the King was gone for Scotland the said Lord Craven took the childe from her for which shee went to Law with him and recovered the childe as is reported Hugh Reyley Captain Kitchingmans Examination Who saith THat the said Captain Thomas Kitchingman in April and May 1650. saw the Lord Craven several times with the King of Scots at Breda and waiting upon the said King several times at his Table at Breda This Informant also saw the Earle of Oxford at the same time with the King of Scots at Breda waiting upon the said King at his Table and saw the Lord Craven and the Earl of Oxford many times going into the withdrawing rooms after the said King This Informant also saw the Lord Craven and the Earl of Oxford in a Bowling-alley in Breda Castle with the said King Tho. Kitchingman In these two latter Examinations Reyleys was but report you see there was nothing that would render Lord Craven criminous But upon this his estate was ordered to bee confiscate and afterward sold and sold it was and is accordingly Of the endeavours of the Lord Cravens friends to prevent it and what was agitated in Parliament I shall not mention for that I refer the Reader to a printed piece entituled A true and perfect Narrative of the several proceedings in the case concerning the Lord Craven printed by R. White 1653. Now if this information of Faulconer bee the onely material testimony upon which the Lord Cravens estate was sequestred and that Faulconer in this information was perjured and forsworn and this bee a false information then this will clearly follow that there was indirect proceedings in some body in this business and that this information of Faulconers was and is false and hee perjured in it and forsworn appears by two most pregnant testimonies neither of them to be denied First by his legal tryal and conviction Secondly by his own confession on his death-bed For Faulconers tryal and conviction of perjury in and for this very information that appears by the Records thereof for the Lord Cravens friends prefer'd an Indictment of perjury against him in the County of Middlesex which Indictment was found against him one Sir Henry Blunt being foreman of the Jury Delayes were used to hinder Faulconers pleading to it notwithstanding the Prosecutors for the Lord Craven had procured a Habeas Corpus to bring him to the Bar to plead to the Indictment which hee sailing they procure another Habeas Corpus hee yet gets further time and a peremptory day assigned by the Court or else Judgement to bee entred against him And the very last day when needs must and not before when the last rule was out hee pleaded not guilty Now Faulconer having pleaded not guilty a Jury is summoned Councel appear in the Vpper Bench at Westminster Mr. Maynard Mr. Hales Mr. Twisden Mr. Philips Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Drury for the Commonwealth and the Lord Craven Mr. Windham Mr. Letch Mr. Lechmore and Mr. Haggat of Councel for Faulconer where upon five hours
The IMPOSTOR Dethron'd OR The Quakers Throne of Truth Detected to bee SATANS Seat of LYES By way of Reply to a Quaking and Railing Pamphlet written by Capt. Bishop entituled The Throne of Truth exalted over the Powers of Darknesse Wherein is briefly hinted the rottenness of the Quakers conversion and perfection in general exemplified in this busie BISHOP in special instanced In his Practises against the Estate of the LORD CRAVEN Life of Mr. LOVE By occasion whereof this Truth is asserted viz. If we may judge of the Conscience Honesty and Perfection of Quakers in general by this man in particular A man may bee as vile a person as any under heaven and yet a perfect QVAKER Come down and sit in the dust O Virgin daughter of Babylon sit on the ground there is no Throne O daughter of the Chaldeans Isa 47. v. 1. Thy nakedness shall bee uncovered yea thy shame shall bee seen v. 3. By Ralph Farmer a servant of that Jesus Christ who was Crucified at Jerusalem above sixteen hundred years ago and whose Blood the Quakers trample under foot as a common thing Published according to Order London Printed by R. I. for Edw. Thomas and are to bee sold at his House in Green-Arbour 1658. The impudent and daring Protestation and Appeal to God of George Bishop concerning the business of the Lord Craven whereof as hee confesses hee had the whole mannagement I Do declare in the presence of the Lord before whom I fear who searcheth the heart and tryeth the reins and bringeth every work to judgement that I am clear and innocent therein nor have I used nor do I know of any indirect proceeding in that whole business of Craven and Faulconer To the Right Honourable William Lord Craven Baron of Hampsteed Marshall in the County of BERKS IT 'S usual my Lord you know in publishing books to prefix the name of some worthy and considerable personage and I now apply my self to your Honour upon several accounts First Tua res agitur much of the matter ensuing concernes your self Secondly I never heard but that you were a lover of your Country alwayes with much respect and honour treating and entertaining your Countrymen that came over into the Low Countryes the place of your residence for many yeares together and hee that loves my Country I love him and him I honour As for your Adversary the man I here deal with his tongue is no slander for who will believe a common lyar which whether I have made him appear to bee or no judicet mundus Thirdly I understand the present Parliament hath taken cognizance of your cause and intend to consider it next Session and I am come in the mean time to bring you good newes your Adversary quakes which if it bee a symptome of true Conversion there is hopes that confession an ingenuous confession of the whole design and an endeavour of satisfaction if it can bee will follow but fearing it may prove but a false birth I have put manum obstetricalem in intima search'd his bowels for a real discovery that the world may no longer bee deceived with a windy conception Truly my Lord your case is hard but what shall wee say 't is the fortune of the wars and there you know as in a common scuffle many an honest man that stands by and means no harm gets a knock as well as those who begun the quarrel and this your Adversary himself who confesses to have had the mannagement of the whole business against you seems to me clearly to acknowledge as the ground of your Sequestration For in answer to an objection made on your Honours behalf by your friends in the Narrative by them published hee your Adversary doubting of the weight and validity of the testimonies produc'd against you sayes in the fourth particular answer page 22. of his book that the time when your estate was sequestred was when the Commonwealth was deeply imbroiled in wars And then goes on and sayes in the next page that in such times and cases they have many considerations as the reason of their actions which those who are without doors that is your Honour and your friends who were not of the Parliament neither know nor apprehend nor are to take upon them so to do So that here you see is Club-law you must bee sequestred because the Commonwealth was imbroil'd in wars and your Honour being out of doors must neither know nor apprehend 't is too far above your reach the reason why nor are you to take upon you 't is presumption so to do For hee tells you page 2. that true Englishmen have used to have Parliaments and their Acts as being the judgement of the whole Representative of the Nation in more veneration and esteem than to bee put into the ballance with the contradictory assertions of any private or byass'd spirits And truly my Lord upon this ground we may well question whether you bee a true Englishman or no who being swayed by your own private interest and byass'd with a desire after your own estate again should dare now to move any thing against the actions of that Parliament which as he tells you in the same page answ 6. upon the proofs by him alledged and because they were not full enough for reasons best known to themselves in time of general imbroilments order'd your estate to bee confiscate So that still my Lord you must take the fortune of the wars and though your Honour and all out of doors know no reason for it yet they did it sayes hee for reasons best known unto themselves But will your Honour give mee leave as a true Englishman to say something for that Parliament and indeed for all Parliaments and Courts of Judicature you well know that the manner of their proceedings in administration of Justice is much according to that Aeconomico-Political process of nature in man himself wherein the apprehensive deliberative and conclusive faculties which in a word wee call common sense which is the great Judicatory in man doth determine all things with a common and equal respect as they are represented Now the outward sences are the Spies and Intelligencers of the Soul who bring in several objects according to their respective natures and faculties to bee judged of and determined by the understanding And hence wee say nihil in intellectu quod non sit prius in sensu Now if these senses either by any defect or vice in the organ faculty or medium which wee might follow with an exact and elegant Analogy but I will avoid prolixity If I say the senses either by deficiency or redundancy under or over-doing make a false report unto the Court the common sense false judgement must proceed accordingly and yet the Court blameless But some men tell us of inferiour faculties even in the soul it self which do corrupt the superiour and so obstruct Justice and pervert judgement If this bee so it is within doors and I who am