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A94341 The application of certain histories concerning ambassadours and their functions, by Francis Thynn, Esquire. Taken out of Sir Robert Cottons library. Thynne, Francis, 1545?-1608.; Cotton, Robert, Sir, 1571-1631. 1651 (1651) Wing T1142; Thomason E1403_1; ESTC R3001 34,353 213

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and to save them out of such condemned actions CHAP. 11. Of the foolish sayings and doings of Ambassadours NOtwithstanding that it often happeneth to be counted a point of wisdome to dissemble and to utter great folly yet in a Legate in a matter of gravitie in the benefit of a Countrie in the cause of a King to shew either folly in the tongue rashnesse in the hand lightness in the gesture clownishness in action or want of good government in ordering himselfe is not simply a fault in the Agent which yet is not to bee allowed but also it stretcheth further and ministreth occasion to condemn the Master or Prince for want of judgement that either hee had not people out of whom or else had not in him to discern to whom he might have better committed such a waighty charge a thing not to be imagined of the head and Governour of the Common-wealth and kingdome Wherefore as you have before on the one side wise Ambassadours honoured and commended for their singular and quick wits in answering for their worthy and prudent dispatch of their Embassie in action So on the other side you shall now see That they who doe not advisedly consider the place wherein the person to whom the matter whereof they are to use their speech doe not only fall into many grosse errors which hurt themselves in jurie their Countries and shame their Princes But that they also thereby become a note and blot of Ignominie to be left behind them in their utter condemnation and the heavy reproch of their posteritie as is proved by these persons following vouched for that intent whose children although they might be condemned as discended from Ambassadours yet it is reprochfull to have the folly and evill of their Ancestors to be spightfully objected unto them And so to the matter The people of Florence sent an Orator or Ambassadour to Jane Queen of Naples of life incontinent and such a person as hanged her Husband a gallant young Prince out of her Chamber window for that he could not the night before content her immoderate and insatiable leacherie called Francis a certain Lawyer by profession but better learned in wearing the apparell of a Civillian than deeply seen in the judgement of Justinian And yet more unlearned indeed then he appeared in shew This man being called into the Queens presence to performe his charge when he had uttered with some good care the effects of his Legation was the next day commanded to return to the Court to hear his answer In the mean time having intelligence that the Queen loved proper men not disdaining such persons as were of excellent beauty but when according to commandement he was returned to Court there after many things spoken this way and that way about his Embassie unto the Queen at length more impudent than wise more glorious than seemly brake with the Queen and said that he had farre more secret matters to impart unto her Whereupon the gentle Queen desirous to satisfie his Legation in all convenient order and deeming the matters of great importance should be revealed unto her self courteously called him into a more secret place where the fool besides all order and civilitie much flattering himselfe in the excellencie of his beautie demanded of her societie in the act of Venus At which the wise Queen nothing abashed nor altered into any sudden passion beholding the countenance of the man did only smiling ask whether the Florentines had given him the same in commission also and telling him that he were best to have authority therefore without further anger willed him to depart home Poggius in facetiis Ariston the Tyrant of Athens besieged and subdued by L. Sylla and being in great povertie and want of all things did send two Legates or Messengers into the Camp to Sylla but they with the minds of Tyrants and not with an humble or gentle stile applied to the present fortune beginning with the praise of Theseus and Eumolisuenta together with the memorie of things done against the Medes and other Nations by the Athenians did gloriously and foolishly execute their Legation by which they did not only not mitigate the mind of the enemy but made him far more offended than hee was before saying that they were a people most happy and therefore meete to carry back such praises again for hee was sent to Athens by the City of Rome not to be instructed in learning but utterly to overthrow the taken City of Athens which he did after performe Sab. li. 9. en 6. ex Plut. Sylla The Perusines sending Orators to Urbaim Bishop of Rome afflicted with sicknesse one of them without respect of the griefe of the Pope used a long and tedious Oration The other who grieved at the folly of the first Speaker then being to mend all fell into a far more offence to move anger in the Bishop saying That it was given them in charge that except they were answered forthwith they should repeat the same Oration again At whose folly the Bishop smiling cōmanded them to be quickly dispatched Poggius in facetiis Franciscus Codelmerius a Cardinall being with a Navy sent Legate against the Turks subduing Hellespont by his folly and ignorance suffered the Turks to passe out of that streight and gave no warning to the Christians wherein he might and did seem to be author by his stupiditie of that memorable and lamentable slaughter of the Christians at Varua Garimbertus li. 6. De vitis Pontificum In the wars which were kept between Pope Gregorie the Eleventh and the Florentines a Legate of the Racavatenses being sent to Florence gave them thanks for the liberties restored inveighing with many despightfull words against the Bishop and the Princes of the City the Ministers of the Bishop having no respect to Radolphus Lord of the Camerines who was then Potimansis or chiefe Governour of Florence for the Bishop Whereupon Radolphus demanded of the Ambassadour of what facultie or Art he was to whom he answered a Doctor of the Civill Law then he asked how long he had applied that studie the Legate said more than ten years O replyed Radolphus very glad would I have been that you had bestowed a yeare thereof to learn discretion and wisdome judgeing him a simple foole that in his presence being one of the number would so lavishly bluster out such heavie words against the Princes and Rulers Poggius The Venetians dispatched two young Legates to Frederick the third Emperour who being highly offended with their young yeares forbade them to approach his presence yet at the length they obtained this favour that they were privatly and without the order of the Custome of Ambassadours which openly should deliver their Message brought to the Emperour at what time beyond all humanitie or wisdome out of the matter propounded they said that if all wisdome and learning rested in a beard and in white haires the Senate of Venice had in place of them to send to the