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A35720 A manuell, or, Briefe treatise of some particular rights and priuiledges belonging to the High Court of Parliament wherein is shewed how of late times they have been violated : the true condition of the militia of this kingdome, so much now controverted both by king and Parliament, by the positive lawes discussed and debated : with a briefe touch at the royall prerogative / by Robert Derham of Graies-Inne, Esquire. Derham, Robert. 1647 (1647) Wing D1097; ESTC R16744 83,752 146

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debate or censure but a retarding of Justice If Judgement be given against the King he cannot examine this iudgement in an extrajudiciall way before himselfe but it must he subject to censure or debate in a legall way by Writ of Errour or the like An offence committed in the presence of a Court of Justice great and more capitall then in the presence of the King I need say no more for the proofe of this I will present you with the great Majesty that doth attend the administration of Justice and that is this An Offence committed in the presence of a Court of Justice is a greater Crime and more Capitall then in the presence of the King killing the Chancellor or Judge of either Bench doing his office is High Treason by the expresse words of 25. E. 3. not so if from the Bench though in presence of the King striking any man in Westminster Hall in presence of the Courts of Justice is the losse of a mans right hand and his goods and chattels not so in the Pallace or presence of the King unlesse blood shed ensue upon it and that is specially by Statute not by common Law but because al● have touched upon this before I will returne to the discourse intended It is manifest that the Law is the square and rule by which both King and people are directed and regulated in inferiour Courts What shall we then say to the high Court of Parliament in comparison of which all other Courts are but Tanquam viburna cupresso like shrubs to the lofty Cypresse or Cedar from whose fulnesse and abundance all other Courts receive even their power and authority There is an enemy at hand Object a strong objection and that is that this is no Parliament they have no plenitude of power without the King and the rest of the Lords and Commons now absent and by this they thinke to invalide all that hath been formerly spoken To which I answer Sol. That first the Parliament must he admitted to be a Court of Justice without the Kings Personall presence his legall presence being inseparable from this Court like as from all other his Courts of Justice and the contrary I suppose no man that is rationall will affirme Further I conceive in inferiour Courts his personall presence is against Law in point of Judgement in any matter between the King and his people for then the King should be Judge in his owne Cause contrary to the rule of Law Ministeriall or judiciall Acts not incident to the Regall dignity which saith That the Kings cannot doe any Act ministeriall to himselfe a● to take a Recogni●●nce pro securitate pa●is or the like much lord doe any Act judiciall betwixt himselfe and his people yea not onely so but he might fit in one Court and reverse a Judgement given against himselfe in another Court which how injurious this same would be unto the subject how dishonounourable and scandalous to the Court of Justice I suppose the weakest capacity doth apprehend Therefore the wisedomes of the 〈◊〉 hath appointed the sage and learned men being sworne to administer Justice indifferently betwixt the King and his people Court of B. Le R. B. C. Courts of Justice time out of minde and Magna Cart. ca. to did not ●reate and constitute the Court of C. B it did only settle it in Loc● c●●t● No Courts of Justice at the first in the subject ●s now but all dispensation of Justice in the Crown viz. by the Kings ministery And the Opinion of Fineaux chiefe Justice in the time of King Henry the 7 That all administration of Justice into at first in the Crowne is to be underst●●d with this distinction it was not in that Regall period a● to the dispensation of it but it was in the regall Ministers or the Judges and so might be said to be in the Crowne according to the rule of Law Qui ●er alium facit per seipsant fadere videni● If so in inferiour Courts the same law ●●●●●●ed sway in that high Court of Parliament also the practice and course of that Court sheweth plainely that they are a C●●rt of Justice without the personall ●re●e●ce of the King Witnesse their rever●●●● erro●ious judgements given in inferiour ●●●rt ●a●●ing illegall Parents Monopolies granted by the King and many other might here be remembred I have heard it formerly objected that the House of Commons could not take a Recognizance Pro securitate pacis of themselves but it was alwaies transmitted to the Lords therefore this House was no Court of Justice for this is incident to every Court of Justice that is of Record yea a Commissioner of Oier and Terminer may take a Recognizans as it seemeth and for proofe the Case in the 1 H. the 7.19 20. is urged for there it is expresly said That the transcript of a Writ of Error upon an erronious Judgement in the Kings Bench shall be brought into the House of Peeres Et per Dominos tantum non per communitatem assignabitur seneschallus qui cum Dominis spiritualibus temporalibus per concilium Justiciar procedet ad errorem corrigendum Hence it seemeth that the House of Commons of it selfe cannot examine any Judgement in inferiour Courts and therefore should seeme to be no distinct Court of Justice of it selfe As also that the House of Commons considered in relation to that joynt power of Judicature that it hath with the House of Lords cannot take a Recognizans as is before objected for so it may seeme to be implyed by this Case I answer Sol. because the weight of this objection seemeth great that this Case may be admitted for Law and yet the power of that High Court of the House of Commons no whit diminished for this Case must be intended of their joynt and entire power of Judicature Co●rts of Justice have no immediate cognizance of each others pro●eedings but they must be certified hereof and that in a legall way Certificate implies no immediate cognizans for otherwise the House of Lords could take no immediate cognizance or knowledge of the proceedings of the House of Commons nor è converso the House of Commons of the proceedings of the House of Peeres but their proceedings ought to be legally certified and by the words in this Record you may see it was done in relation to that joynt power for the words are Per Dominos tantum non per communitatem c. Here the Commonalty must plainely be intended as member or part of that High Court or otherwise the words were meerely nugatory for what need this restriction if the House of Commons were not conjoyned with the Lords in entercourse of Justice but were a distinct Court and severall from the House of Peeres it were as much as if the Kings Beanch should be restrained from having any immediate Jurisdiction or Cognizans in matters pertaining to the Common Pleas a thing ridiculous and superfluous seeing by
reason why the negative voice is not consistent with this goverment for if he hath a negative voyce the Government is meerely Arbytrary inferiour Courts may a while be refreshed herewith but the fountaine will soone dry up and what then will become of the rivilets If this may be defended De Jure to be done that the King may deny his Assent to twenty Bills preferred unto him by the wisedome of his Parliament for the Publike good there will fall o●● a totall defect of Justice in a short time without God incline the hearts of Princes miraculously And this admitted how would it let loose the reines of Government for if there were no supplement of new Lawes the old Lawes would soone expire diseases breeding in the Body Politique even as in the naturall requiring new Lawes the ministration of new devised remedies to suppresse the mischiefe the which the Art of man cannot cure or prevent by provision of old Lawes therefore for this very reason the Kings negative voyce is inconsistent with Government Further to what end is the Oath so solemnly tendred and taken by the Kings of this N●tion at their Coronations Is it meerely superfluous or is he bound now and is he presently loosed in his practise and goverment The Kings Oath at his I●auguration against the negative voice How doth his negative voyce in Parliament and this Oath stand together in which Oath he sweares to confirme those Lawes Quas vulgus elegerit which his people shall chuse Some materiall words in this Oath explained the true sence and meaning of the words extending onely to future Lawes to be chosen by the people as I take it cleare without all question for to lawes already established precedent branches of this Oath doe relate else there must be a Tantology which in an Oath penned with such wisedome and deliberation we must not conceive The word Consuetudines joyned with the words of this ●ranch of the Oath Object objected by his Majesty in ore of his Declarations plainely to intend this branch of precedent Lawes onely for Customes cannot commence at this day is a word of large fence in Law Sol. Merchandises vid. M●cae ca. 30 Note that this word Consuetudines is also taken for Statute law as Centra consuetudinem communi concili● Regni edit C● M. C. f. 5. 6. for Rents and Services due to the Lord are called Customes be● sides this wo●d Consuetudi●es in this very Oath plainely pointeth out Lawes and Statutes Franchises and Liberties for have the Kings of this Realme granted Customes in this sence to their people as are the words of one branch of this Oath they cannot be Customes and yet have such denomination even at their very commencement as these words report but of this enough Now the people here intended in this Oath are the High Court of Parliament for where can the people make election of wholsome Lawes for themselves but here The Commons are there representative the Lords not so but personally that is the reason a Peere may make a Proxy not the other where they are representatively assembled for no legall Assembly or Convention totius populi can any History record or antiquity of this Nation ever mention but this convention of Parliament I will say no more in a truth so cleere to every capacity plaine and obvious but people dis-affected clamour much and say How can this be since the Kings dignity is above all Law his presence suspends the Law and surely if he may suspend the Law by his presence and that a Law already made and in being then surely he may deny efficacy or force to any Law not in being by an explicite Act or deniall of Assent for the former case is but implicite and for proofe of this they may object that ancient Case of Law Object That a Villaine in whom his Lord hath both in person and estate the inheritance the absolute and free disposition of him by Law so he doth not maihem him if in the presence of the King he is a free man he cannot be seised by his Lord but it is for the time an Enfranchisement Sol. To which I answer that this Case is ancient and the Law in this particular is antiquated not abrogated howsoever it is pertinent to out present purpose I say this Case stands upon its particular reason for the Kings presence is a sufficient Protection in favour of liberty against the Lord who doth not agere civiliter against his Villaine that is to say claime him in a course of Justice for then if the proceed in a judiciall way The Kings presence no Protection against the power and execution of the law where the power and authority of the Law appeares as he may then I conceive the Kings presence is no protection but it is like the case of a man upon an Execution awarded against him who flyeth into the Kings presence upon a Capias ad satisfaciendum directed to the Sheriffe for in that Case I take it the Law is plaine the Sheriffe must with the power of the County if needfull apprehend him and if he returne the especiall matter unto the Court without executing the Writ the returne of the Writ in this case is not good and if the party escape the Sheriffe is subject to an Action at the Suit of the party who is damnified thereby Thus I have done with this particular I meane the negative voice and if there be no coersive power to rectifie the abuse of Authority Regall as some would have it yet it remaines still a transgression from the rule of Truth and Justice and that is all that I desire at this time to prove If there be no limits for the impetuous waves of the proud Ocean God hath appointed the Sands to stand up and choake them Loe here God and Nature against exorbitant power but of this sufficient There yet remaineth the last part of this Priviledge afore mentioned a little to be spoken of The proceedings of Parliaments paralleld with the proceedings of inferiour Courts viz. That the proceedings of this High Court are not subject to any extrajudiciall censure or debate wherein I will briefly-parallel this with the proceedings in inferiour Courts where you shall finde that they are not so much as to be retarded or delayed by any verball command of the King their judgements binding all untill by legall course reversed no man no not the King himselfe authorized to question much lesse nullifie their Acts in any extrajudiciall way so much ought the judgement of the Law to be had in reverence The King cannot warrant the absence of any man in his service The King cannot retard Justice but in a legall way either by any verball or Certificate by Letter to the Court of Justice but it must be done legally by Writ under Scale or otherwise it will turne to a default he cannot retard Justice but in a legall way And what is extrajudiciall
not grounded alwaies upon the positive Laws but upon intervenient accidents arising upon materiall circumstances of time place or other emergent causes which Orders are held by the Sages of the Law agreeable unto equity and Justice although no expresse Law to warrant the same In Chancery many crosse Orders the one to the other in a cause there depending yea almost seeming contradictory yet in Law and conscience justifiable and he that shall disobey those Orders is accounted a rebell unto the Law the King and his royall Government Jurisdiction of Courts title Parliament as appeareth by the Writ of Rebellion usually in those cases issuing and Sir Edward Coke affirmeth this power of Ordinance antiently pertaining to this high Court of Parliament And I know not but they may proceed to definitive Judgement in Causes notwithstanding any thing that hath been formerly spoken The Power of Parliament to proceed unto finall Judgement in case of wilfull absence of any the Judges of this Court pa●alleld with this power in inferiour Court The Court full in Judgement of the law without those Judges which are wilfully absent if any Members of the Houses who are by Law Judges of this high Court shall refuse to discharge the trust committed unto them as the case now is and wilfully by absence or delinquency make themselves uncapable and unworthy of that great service for then I conceive it cleere that the Court is full in Judgement of Law without them and under favour there is no Law in point but the remaining Judges may proceed by the same authority For to examine a little the course of inferiour Courts of Law if any one or two of the Judges of the Kings Bench or Common Pleas shall obstinately recede from that Court and deny his attendance there for the publike shall not the residue of the Judges transact all matters there depending Certainely they may and further they ought so to doe And although for conveniency or conformity or to the end the Judgement may be the more unquestionable being confirmed by the greater number the weighty matters are agitated and determined in Plena curia for the most part yet I take it cleere in case of absence especially wilfull or obstinate the remaining Court may debate and finally sentence all matters incident to their jurisdiction Indeed in some particular cases the chiefe Justice or Judge hath formerly had the sole power as concerning Writs of Errour viz. that the warrant for the issuing out the Writ of Errour to the Chancery ought to be under the Teste of the chiefe Justice of the Kings Bench No judiciall but ministeriall acts by law transacted solely by any one Judge in inferiour Courts vid. Sup●a but that Case or any of the like nature I conceive are only ministeriall but if a Writ be once returned in Court and so the Cause there depending no doubt the remaining Judges may judicially heare and determine Now if so in these lower Courts we cannot dis-affirme the same in this eminent Tribunall the Parliament the Court being the moddell and patterne of all other Courts the Gnomon that points out the course of the Sunne the course of Justice and equity to all the other Courts there being no brightnesse or lustre of Justice in inferiour Courts but resides more fully and more aboundantly in that high Court of Parliament So that I conclude the Parliament may make Ordinances Orders give Judgement and Sentence definitively in all matters whatsoever without the Kings personall presence or any of the Members of either Houses their absence being such as is formerly declared and that upon the reason of Law in these riv●lets of Justice their latitude of power and the superlative authority considered in themselves and in their course of pr●ceedings being not so much as intended to be here mentioned but onely by way of comparison or resemblance of the Law in inferiour Courts to make things more conspicuous not any waies to dishonour this Court as if it should emendicare justitiam begge or borrow the rules of Justice from inferiour Courts who ar● but tanquam anc●lle like handmaids to this Lady and Queene of Justice as also it is done ea intentione to informe vulgar capacities per notiora nobis by things even subject unto sence to the end they might if possible be satisfied I should now enter into the proofe of the violation of this priviledge almost forgotten by this digression namely the transacting of matters belonging unto this high Court by the new erect and pretended Parliament at Oxford a greater violation in this particular then if any inferiour Court of Justice in this Kingdome had assumed or arrogated this authority The Assembly at Oxford unwarrantable by law even in their Session much more in their proceedings because this Assembly at Oxford have not so much as any colour of Law to warrant even their Session much lesse their proceedings the matters there trans-acted and adjudged in derogation and dishonour of this high Court being so many and numerous as also the extrajudiciall arraignement of the Votes and proceedings of this Parliament but I thinke it is manifest to all the world and no man ignorant thereof The many and weighty Remonstrances Declarations and Ordinances of this high Court dec●ared and pronounced null and void at Oxford and elsewhere by Declarations of his Majesty extrajudicially framed Much might be spoken herein with much sorrow and peradventure not without offence therefore I will desist and close up my meditations on this particular protesting nothing but the delivery of the truth with meekenesse and moderation and my soule is full of heavinesse and lamentation that ever so unhappy an occasion should be ministred ●eseeching God if it may stand with his Will and Pleasure to heale all our wounds and to reconcile all differences with peace There is another right of Parliament yet behinde which requires me not to be silent as being of all one of the chiefest by breach of which the Sword is gone through our Land Armies of men have been raised whereby not only violation of Lawes Rights and Justice but even the destruction of all is at hand unlesse God in his mercy prevent it In briefe we have seene great forces raised and maintained by the King without any Law or authority to warrant the same being as I suppose misinformed and unadvised herein The Priviledge or right of Parliament it being directly against the right and power of Parliament which is this That no Armies of men can he raised by the King or any subordinate authority under him but as the positive Law hath prescribed unlesse by consent of Parliament And here peradventure it will be expected I should speake of the Militia of the Kingdome The Milita absolute or generall Vid. infra as being a matter at this time of the highest concernement but I will referre it to a distinct debate by it selfe as you shall perceive hereafter in this discourse
A MANUELL OR Briefe Treatise of some particular Rights and Priuiledges belonging to the High Court of PARLIAMENT Wherein is shewed how of late times they have been violated The true condition of the Militia of this Kingdome so much now controverted both by King and Parliament by the Positive Lawes discussed and debated with a briefe touch of the Royall Prerogative Neminem oportet esse sapientiorem legibus Job 8.8 Interroga pristinam generationem investiga patrum memoriam Ipsi docebunt te loquentur tibi ex corde suo proferent eloquium Hesterni enim sumus ignoramus vita nostra est sicut umbra super terram By Robert Derham of Graies-Inne Esquire London printed for Mathew Walbancke at Graies-Inne Gate 1647. To the Honourable and truly religious the Commons of England now Assembled in Parliament at Westminster May it please you THis little Treatise some may say needs no Dedication Res enim ipsa l●quitur The subject and matter of this Discourse pointing like the Heliotrope to the Sun unto the High and Illustrious Assembly of PARLIAMENT whose influence and favour are alone sufficient yet since it hath pleased God to raise you up in this distressed Kingdome as blessed meanes an● instruments of his glory and of the good of this Common-Wealth as it is certainely hoped in composing these unhappy differences by your eminent Wisedome and supreame Authority and your fidelity and constancy in this great trust committed unto you being so apparent unto all men as also this worke for the most part being extracted out of your owne learned Declarations and Remonstrances imparted to publike view I am upon these reasons emboldned to addresse my selfe unto you for protection against Calumny and detraction And although I know nothing herein contained but what is warranted by the Lawes of this Realme and by the rules of truth yet in as much as I am not hereby justified I crave your favourable censure concluding what I have written of your judicious view wholly unworthy and the Author hereof in respect of your noble and high deserts shall ever remaine Your Honours in all duty and service obliged Robert Derham The Preface to the Reader Courteous Reader IT is a true saying Pro captu Lectoris habent sua fata libelli the capacity and apprehension of the Reader is fatall to every thing committed to publike view however this being a legall Treatise it must stand or fall by the judgement of the wise and learned in the Lawes of this Kingdome The summe of this Discourse is grounded upon the Positive Lawes termed of late times the knowne Lawes I have chosen to enter into Combate with our Adversaries at their owne Weapons as they please to chuse them though happily it may prove disadvantagious and this is done with moderation I hope to silence if not satisfie the obstinate Take this worke out of the Loome and withall Anatomize it with all the curious and cunning dissections of Art and wit spare it not yet I am confident it shall abide firme against all opposition I will conclude with this Corollarie Edicite mundo quod mundus est vanitas veritas autem est magna prevalebit Farewell A Manuell or briefe Treatise of some particular Rights and Priviledges belonging to the High Court of PARLIAMENT I Am injoyned out of my duty to my Country and my zeale to the Publike good to compile this little Treatise little in regard of the Author great in regard of the Subject matter wherein I protest before the Supreme Judge of Heaven and Earth to deliver the truth and nothing but the truth according to the Lawes of this Realme established whose unparalleld distractions both in Church and Common-wealth I cannot but with great griefe consider Quis talia fando temperet a Lachrymis The Mother and Nurse unto us all this formerly most happy and blessed Nation now personated in the sable habit of a most mournefull widow Quae corrupit ecusos fletu which hath lost her glorious Lampes even her eyes with weeping Sparso quoque infanebrem modum crine terribilis Terrible to beholders with disheveled haire making moane for her irreparable losses attending the funeral Obsequies of her deare Children requesteth nay requireth us all to bewaile her miseries and to redresse her disperate calamities But to leave off preambles as tedious and to come to the Discourse intended I doe with sincerity of heart detesting the Doctrine and Practises of Brownists Anabaptists Sectarists and as one that truely honoureth the true reformed Protestant Religion lament and much deplore the sorrowfull condition of this Kingdome the amiable Lawes and Goverment being now become despicable through the violation or neglect at least of the fundamentals I meane the just and due Rights and Priviledges of that High and Supreame Court of Parliament in whose safety and flourishing estate consisteth the happinesse of this Common-wealth and in the contempt of that illustrious Assembly this renowned Nation will of free-borne Subjects become slaves and degenerate from those noble resolutions which their Ancestors did inherite For to let passe the disturbances in this Church of England and the Government thereof and the meanes to redresse the same being not properly within my cognisance or knowledge and peradventure permitted by Divine Providence to evidence to the world the errours and folly even of his owne Ministers and the unsearchable Wisedome of God even past mans finding our My purpose is onely at this time to treat of the High Court of Parliament and the Lawes and Liberties of the Subject in them represented whose infallibility I shall nor labour to maintaine as being men of the like passions that we are but the Venerable estimation which the wisedome of the Law hath evermore attributed unto them not in respect of their Persons but of the Government and Justice which in them primitively resides whose gravity prudence and integrity hath been in all Ages much admired and their judgements and resolutions till these unhappy tim●s held indisputable for inquire of your Ancestors if the gray-headed Common Law whose funeralls are now in the judgement of man approaching through the popular dis-estimation of this High Court did not here receive if not its first subsistence yet its power and glorious estate even to these times The Kings just and due Prerogatives if not here first framed yet from time to time here strengthened and corroborated witnesse that ancient Statute called Prerogativa Regis made Anno 17. E. 2. This Station is declaratory of the Prerogative not Introductive wherein certaine of the most weighty and great Prerogatives pertaining to the Crowne are contained and declared as saith that learned Judge Stamford The rich Gemmes and inestimable treasure both in Church and State from this Fountaine derivatively issuing and proceeding and shall now the honour of this Court so ancient be deserted And shall it not with the lives and estates of all noble minded English-men be maintained as sacred and as
gracia admit their Allegation true that they were driven from the Service of the Parliament by Tumults and disorders which no man will the premisses considered suppose yet the objection is still frivolous who shall judge them innocent or transgressors of the Law shall not the Parliament yes verily as it is manifestly proved by the former discourse so that in the confutation of this we doe but like Sysiphi sax●m voluere labour in vaine with multiplicity of words to answer a meere false and nugatory suggestion Object There is yet further opposition and that is upon the Statute 6 H. 8. before named That the penalty of that Law is but lo●se of their wages in case any of the Members of the said House of Commons shall depart from the Service of the House without leave of the House accordingly as that Act hath appointed and so with losse of their wages upon the point that Statute is satisfied Sol. 6 H. 8. More penall abrogateth no former Law To which I answer First that Statute extendeth not to the House of Peeres neither doth it take away the mulct or penalty of any former Law or Statute made in that behalfe but addeth a further punishment to the crime abrogateth no former Law so that Fine Imprisonment and Arbitrary Censure continue still in their force and to conclude this point they are by one Statute or the other or by both transgressors of the Law and liable to the judgement of that supreme Judicatory The proceedings of the Pa●liament not subject to any debate extrajudiciall nor to any deba●e judiciall but of it selfe Another right of Parliament is the sole trans-action of all matters even unto Judgement or the Royall Assent the proceedings of this High Court being not subject to any extrajudiciall debate of censure of any other Court or Authority whatsoever but onely of it selfe and within it selfe having supreme Authority and Jurisdiction and whereas I spake before of their power of preparing and trans-acting all matters unto the Royall Assent The transacting matters unto the Royall Assent doth not intend the royall assent Arbitrary I doe not intend the royall assent Arbitrary for the royall assent cannot in Justice be denyed to any Bills preferred by the wisedome of Parliament for the publike good neither can any absolute Negative voice no Prerogative negative voyce of the King in this nature be any prerogative to him justly pertaining although by a Proclamation bearing date at Oxford printed not long since his Majesty claimeth an absolute negative voyce in Parliament as his undoubted right And likewise in one of his Declarations he justifieth it as his right for this reason Object That if he should onely have a negative voyce in Parliament in matters of Grace and Favour and not in matters of right and Justice then matters of grace and savour would soone be brought within the compasse of right and justice if the Parliament sh●ll so declare them they would soone interest the Republike in them also and so exclude him from any negative voyce at all To answer this I need say no more but this Sol. Matters of right and Justi●e and of gra●e and favour legally differen●ed That these are thoughts dishonourable of a Parliament to make the head and fountaine of Justice a receptory of such impure streames as these injury and injustice besides these matters are in Law plainely and perspicuously differenced in the one viz. matters of Right and Justice the whole Kingdome is concerned not so in the other as being private on particular in their nature as Bills of Naturalization Indenization Generall pardon how speciall grant of Franchises on priviledges to Corporations or private persons generall pardons or particular for though the word generall be here used yet it operates but especially it extends onely to particular persons without you will make all the Kingdome delinquents unto Justice it includes genera singulorum at the most Generall statutes not nationall or publike not singula generum And so in Law divers Statutes are called generall Statutes of which the Judges are bound by Law to take notice of without speciall pleading and yet the Publique or the whole Kingdome are not concerned in them For my part I shall need to say little herein because it hath been formerly handled by others Arbitrary Goverment grounded upon the negative voice also I take it to be a truth as cleare as the noone day that upon this Structure all Arbitrary Government is founded and maintained which position standeth not with a mixt and Politique Government as this of our Nation is but with a Monarchicall where the will and pleasure of the Prince is a Law as is known sufficiently to the learned In inferiour Courts no negative voi●e no voice at all But a little to examine this particular and let us looke into the proceedings of inferiour Courts Hath he there any negative voyce It appeareth he is so farre from having any negative voyce that he hath no Vote at all but the voyce of the Law pronounced by the mouthes of the dispensers thereof the reverend Judges is that which obligeth both King and peop●e neither can it be disanulled by any verball Command of the King or any other extrajudiciall way although under ●he Great Seale of England although the Judgement be against the King himselfe Nay further I conceive the Law exerciseth a coersive power over all persons without exception the King as well as the people surely then the King hath no voyce negative yea the compulsary proceedings were the same anciently though now dis-used that is to say Writs issued forth against the King as against the Subject I have seene good Authority in print that the forme of the Writ in the times of Henry the 1. or thereabouts as I remember was thus Precipe ●enrico Regi c. the power of the Law was here supreme but of late times it is now by way of Petition if the Suit be against the Kings Servants or incumbent as in a Quare impedit or the like if judgement be once given as it is usuall the Kings right is bound and you see withall it is by Writ in that Case now if Judgement be given Judgement against the King by the posi●ive lawes and with all compulsary surely even at this day the Judgement is not illusory for every Judgement in its nature is an Act compulsary Et judicium redili●us in invitum as the Lawyers say for execution may be demanded upon this Judgement and cannot in Justice be denyed though against the King These things thus premised I doe reiterate my former question where is now the Kings negative voyce surely in inferiour Courts he hath no voyce at all come we then to the right Court of Parliament Hath he it there without doubt he hath it not It is an Opinion exployded by all good me● unsound and rotten at the root if we but open it The
power and authority by Law vested in the King in derogation of his high Court of Parliament as makes the rules of Law and Justice meerely Arbitrary as in those particulars afore specified we must needs grant and yet in inferiour Courts the same rules in Arbitrary Government no where warranted or allowed but contrary wise their proceedings obliging both King and people to a mutuall observance by a legall power and authority to that purpose setled in them This were repugnant even to sence Now to summe up this point if the King cannot leavie or maintaine any Forces by Sea or Land as is formerly proved though for defence of the Realme or his Person upon his owne Judgement or apprehension of danger What shall we then say to this effusion of bloud the Authors and fomenters of this intestine Warre shall they be protected Surely at some mens hands this bloud will be required and though they may here escape yet righteous judgement must be expected hereafter Papists inabled nay compelled to beare Armes contrary to the lawes viz. 3. Jacobi 5. Also this matter seemeth more to be aggravated since in this late great and numerous Army of the King those persons who are prohibited by Law to come within tenne miles of the Court disabled by Law to beare Armes within this Kingdome contrary to the Kings owne solemne Protestations made unto his Parliament are enabled nay commanded to beare Armes to the destruction of the Kings subjects I meane the Popish Party in this Kingdome whose doctrine and practises both to King and State in most execrable Treasons and impious Conspiracies hatefull both to God and man are sufficiently manifest to all the world and need not here to be remembred Now there being such a cloud of Witnesses as is afore specified Common Law Stat. judgement of this Parliament proving the Armies Illegall viz. the Common Law the Statute Law the Judgement of this Parliament in Master Hampdens Case the very same in Law and reason convincing any capacity in the certainty of this truth that these Armies now maintained by the King are not warranted by Law What shall I say more yea what shall we thinke of this Commission of Array Commission of Array destructive of Parliaments upheld by our opposites What is this likewise but a meere usurpation a plaine violation of the Lawes and what would follow if this doctrine should be admitted but a finall dissolution of Parliaments For what would they then serve for if Armies of men may contrary to the positive Lawes be raised without them They would be at the best but as the tyrannicall Bishop of Rome formerly boasted Puteus inexhaustus an ever springing Fountaine to satisfie the ambitious desires of the mighty with the riches and wealth of the people nay peradventure Aides Taxes and Impositions would be had at pleasure and the people by force compelled to slavish obedience as we have found by sad experience too dearely bought in a branch of these Dominions the unfortunate Kingdome of Ireland where the insolencie of the Souldiers was such yea even in the times of Peace in the time of the late Earle of Strafford that the Lawes were sleighted and trodden under foot and the Paper Decrees of the Castle Chamber put in execution by these Agents in Armes forcing the poore subject to obey whatsoever was in this wicked and illegall manner commanded what difference now betwixt the Turkish Government and this new devised Monarchy of these Dreamers the lives and estates of all men being subjugated to misery and inevitable destruction but God in his good time discover these evill instruments and bring them to Justice who labour to involue so great a Prince into inextricable errour and calamity I promised moderation therefore I will say no more but will divert my meditations to the period of this discourse as thinking I have satisfied mine owne conscience it not others in so large a debate hereof Object There is one great Objection made by the adverse part which if answered this particular is satisfied And that is By what authority are the forces of the Parliament raised Seeme they not as illegall as unwarrantable Sol. To which I answer That the Parliament themselves in their Declarations which I have seene make it onely on their part defensive there being an Army intended against them full foure yeares since the Army raised against the Scots and afterwards for this purpose implyed to awe this Parliament and to force them to consent unto such Articles framed by evill persons touching the Government of this Kingdome which appeares by the Depositions of divers persons of note and quality annexed to a Remonstrance of Parliament 19. Maii 1642. which sure was long before an Army raised by the Parliament or thought upon the King being then present at Parliament and I will not say it was by his privity or knowledge Onely thus much I will say That this Act was alone sufficient to breed jealousies and feares in the Parliament and to provide further for their defence and security Afterwards this was increased by the Kings comming to the House of Commons in that unusuall manner to demand the Members affrighting the Assembly there present who upon request were denyed a Guard Afterwards his Majesty at Yorke at Nottingham had a considerable Army of men to the number of foure or five thousand as I have credibly heard by those that were then there present and all this while no Army of the Parliament appearing that I did heare of only speeches to that purpose Now upon all these proceedings the Parliament for their owne defence the Kings Royall Person and Authority the defence of the rights and liberties of the Subject raised an Army under the command of his Excellency Rob. Earle of Essex which whether or no defensive or justly done I leave it to the world to judge upon that which hath been formerly spoken But to make a more full answer and to square my course in these Treaties by the positive Lawes to stop the mouthes of clamorous people The raising of Forces by the Parliament justified as a Court of Justice The Parliament and either of the Houses must be admitted to have supreme power of Judicature without the Kings Personall presence as the Rolls and judiciall proceedings thereof sufficiently manifest as is formerly spoken and if so then they have power to Summon Censure and judge all Delinquents yea force them to submit to the Justice of that high Court upon contempt by enjoyning Posse commitatus yea Posse Regni to execute their Commands against all disobedient persons unto the Justice and Government of this Kingdome and this meerely by the Law of inferiour Courts as I have formerly remembred therefore this shall be sufficient Object Legislative power just There is one thing that scruples the mindes of Malignants much and that is That the Parliament have hitherto proceeded by a meere legislative power and not by the positive Lawes and
that they instance in the Case of the late Earle of Strafford Sol. To which I answer first That if they did so it were but just according to the Supreme power of that Court but to descend to our Adversaries and to search all the Foxes Holes that they may have no refuge I take it cleere that in the Case of the late Earle of Strafford they did proceed against him but according to the positive Lawes in respect of the Crime The Common law of this Realme is in force in Ireland and all statutes enacted before 10. H. 7. in this Realme are in force in Ireland vid. Poynin●● ley though his triall might seeme somewhat differing for surely either by the Common Law or by the Statute of 25. E. 3. or by the Statute of 28. H. 6. as I remember a Statute made and enacted in the Kingdome of Ireland he was justly attainted of High Treason as for the Act of Attainder and the Proviso thereof that it should be no president for the future the meaning whereof I will open unto you hereafter certainely it was not for want of Crime or Delinquency as ignorant people and disaffected falsly say For a little to debate this particular in mine owne apprehension and no further because I have not lately seene this Act. Act vid. the act ●f Attainder of of the Earle of Strafford He was at first by Bill in the House of Commons Voted a Traitor which Bill was transmitted to the Lords for their concurrence therein but the Lords being doubtfull De jure not De facto as they were at the first in the Case of the late Prelate of Canterbury to wit whether he were guilty of high Treason by the Positive Lawes or no therefore for their satisfaction he was tryed in Westminster Hall per pares by his Peeres upon their Honour according to the course of the positive Lawes a L. Steward being appointed found guilty there of high Treason Upon these proceedings was the Act of Attainder drawne up wherein the Clause afore mentioned was inserted viz. That this Act of Attainder should be no president for the future which I conceive must be intended either in respect of the Triall or Judgement it selfe The Act or Judgement includes the triall or proceedings in law and although the clause should mention the Act and not the proceedings thereupon it is all one as if it had in sence of Law for the proceedings and the triall are included and involved in the Judgement and therefore the Act of Attainder or Judgement comprehends all depending thereupon Reverse a Judgement at Law you reverse all the proceedings without any mention of them therefore they are included Now the triall was unusuall for in the House of Commons he was tried in a Parliamentary way in the House of Peeres by the Common Law in Westminster Hall Further this Clause might have a retrospect unto the Act or Judgement for the Judgement was unusuall at least not necessary in this respect he was by the positive Lawes proceeded against Judgement might have been given against him by the Parliament which Judgement should have been entred into the Rolls of Parliament Vnto a Judgement by Statute all men are privie according to the course of other Courts of Justice but to be attainted by Act this was more full and satisfactory both to the offender and to others in this respect that all men are privie and consenting unto this Judgement either personally or representatively and therefore all men must rest satisfied but to returne to our former Discourse and not to detaine you any longer with mine owne fancy as some may say This I will confidently averre he was by the Law positive adjudged a Traitor for leavying warre in the Kingdome of Jreland His person here subject for offending against a positive law viz. 25. E. 3. as also for offending against a Statute there made viz. 2● H. 6. and his possessions in both Kingdomes cleare liable by both statutes The Act of 25. E. 3. is in force in Ireland either by vertue of Poynings law or else by the ancient common law of England which is in force in Ireland 25 E. 3. is b t of the ancient common law declaratory C●m ●lees of the Crowne Tit. Treason Treason against the law against the very Law it selfe for he that goeth about to alter the Law or Governement or to oppose it in any hostile or compulsary way as it was proved manifestly he did is a Traitor within 25. E. 3. and leavieth warre against our Soveraigne Lord the King as the words of that Statute are for leavying warre against the Person of the King is included in the first branch of the Act of compassing or imagining the Kings death as the learned know therefore this Clause of leavying warre against the King if taken in the literall sence were not so necessary but because of some great authority in this particular which I have seene I will conclude that if taken in the sence against the the Person of the King yet it is also and most principally a leavying warre against the Lawes and Government a secret which ignorant people know not for they thinke no Treason can be but against the Person of the King now least any man being impeached of High Treason should claime the benefit of this Act which peradventure would prove inconvenient I conceive this clause for some of these reasons added unto this Act. But some will say That his ignorance of the offence Object and his good intentions to his Majesty and the State were a sufficient Apology the which he confirmed by his Speech unto the people at his death I answer If it were so admitted Sol. yet ignoruntia juris non excusat yea the meanest crime of the meanest person is not hereby extenuated in Law but this was a crime of an eminent person the highest offence in Law and of dangerous consequence All Courts of Justice have their Seales viz. C. B. Ble●oy this hath ●●one but this Ergo. There are some Rights of Parliament yet behind as namely the attendance of the great Seale necessarily upon this Court their claime and disposition likewise of the Militia the Navy Forts and Magazins for the defence of the Kingdom as also of the great Offices of the Realme all these nor any of them being the Kings unboubted right Object as he claimeth them For to begin with the Militia which some may say hath been formerly debated in shewing his Majesties raising of Armies illegall and unwarrantable and therefore here it will be but repitition Sol. I answer if it were so yet this being a matter now controverted of so high consequence it should not seeme ungratefull Que repetita placent decies repetita placebunt but to dispossesse you of this fancy you shall finde it not so the discourse of it here you will finde in a larger notion though very briefe then before it was spoken of as
away the Members of the Houses from the service of the Common Wealth and trying them by Commissions elsewhere by the knowne Lawes of the Land as they please now to terme them wrested misinterpreted by illegall Judgements to Condemne the innocent Vi. Deat f. 10. a for the positive Lawes and the Law of Parliament much differ and are not in many particulars consistent together and yet both Lawes in their proper Spheres and motions just and good Lawes and howsoever the people be deceived otherwise and by other pretexts this is the very truth and beginning of all our miseries Hinc illae lachimae In his Majesties absence from the Parliament these Agents have not been idle they then labour to invalide all the proceedings of Parliament without the Kings presence personally they Arraigne them and Judge them as null and void by extrajudiciall Declarations there is a suddaine eruption of this impious doctrine That the King hath an absolute negative voice to all their Votes and Resolutions and so their sitting there frivolous and contemptible a position inconsistent with the Government of this Nation and subjecting both Lawes and people Arbitrio principis to the will and pleasure of the Prince A cursed Opinion And further when they see that these Plots are ineffectuall they take up Armes in plaine termes But what to doe To destroy the Lawes and Government for ought that I know yea the King himselfe in his Regall Dignity they colour it with Law and Justice forthwith issues a Commission knowne by the name of The Commission of Array an illegall and unjust Commission as you may perceive by this former Discourse Afterwards they fly to the defence of the Kings Person Nota. an Act justifiable as they say even by the Law of God and Nature as if the Law of this Land had provided for the Members of this great Body Politicke and had left the head thereof without any security of it selfe a high and great scandall to the Government The truth is the King is made use of by them under pretence of the security of his Royall Person but to shelter themselves from the mulct and penalty of those great and capitall Crimes of which they are even by the positive and knowne Lawes guilty you may see how largely and wisely the Law hath invironed the Royall State and Dignity with walles of defence round about in the fore-going Discourse therefore they need not seeke any other refuge Last of all they cast this a●per●●on upon the Parliament and Kingdome That they take up Armes against the King which you may perceive by this Discourse they doe not they intend no hurt to his Person but the safety thereof for surely they that seeke to invest the King with the same garments of Peace and Justice with which the Law hath adorned him seeke more the security of his Person then those that seeke by these bloudy courses to present him unto his people in the indeleble Characters that I say no more of errour and misgovernment Are Usurpations the Robes of a Prince Certainly these are not his Parliament Robes Is any thing denied or with-held that is his Majesties right if his Majesty would cease these Warres against his People Thus you see in briefe the beginning progresse and continuance of these our calamitie● unto this day on the Kings part by evill Counsell fomented and maintained The Parliament and people with them fight for their lawes and liberties yea for the King and the maintenance of his regall dignity nothing but violation of Lawes and Justice and although it be falsly alledged That the King fighteth for his Crowne I thinke upon the premisses you may safely conclude the Parliament and people fight for their Religion Lawes and Libertie yea to set the Crowne and the due Rights thereof upon the Kings Head and his Posterity which by these illegall waies hath been is and will be much exposed even to ruine and destruction If any ma● shall be yet so unhappy in himselfe as not to rest satisfied with what is here delivered but that flesh and bloud will still contest I have nothing more to say unto him then this It is the Lawes and Government of this Kingdome that warrants this truth Et c●ntra negu●●e● principia non est dispu●a●dum And now to draw to a conclusion of this wo●ke you that are filled with knowledge and wisedome as it is much g●o●●ed in by the s●●ple and ignorant where is your learning and wisedome may not I say unto you Beho●● how that God hath chosen the vile and abject things of the world to oppose the mighty the foolish things of the world to confound the wise The Kings part fight not for Religion since they seeke to ene●vate those Lawes which under God preserve and secure our religion 3 Iac. ca. 5. vi devant What are these streames of bloud for Are they for your Religion Is this your last objection take heed that you erre ●or herein if you endeavour to disarme Religion to take away the Bulworkes and Fort●fications thereof the Lawes and Statutes of this Kingdome by which our Religion hath been hitherto under God preserved and maintained Are you not guilty of Sacriledge Was there not a Statute lately made to disarme the Papist as a dangerous enemy to our Religion to take away all Armes and A●munition from him as also to banish him from the Kings House or Court or of his Heires apparent or within ten miles of the City of London How is this excellent ●aw most shamefully abused Not one jot or tittle of the same No cause whatsoever sufficient to justifie the violation of the Lawes we may not doe evill that good may come of it but infringed Have they not freely repaired unto the Kings Court as likewise unto the Princes yea have they not been a Guard unto his Person Doe you not likewise Arme and command in Armes the enemies of our Religion against us the Popish Party under pretence of the defence of the Kings Person directly against the Lawes of this Realme as I have shewed you before That Law which next Divine Providence is the onely security of our Religion the disarming and weakening the Papist and what will ensue upon thi● but if they should prevaile which God avert an utter ruine of our worship of God or at least a tolleration of Popery which would soone extirpate the Protestant Religion Now let the world see what zealous Assertors you are of Gods true Worship and Service when you open the way to all prophanesse and superstition The religion which the best of you endeavour for is full of many superstitious Ceremonies fit to be abolished even in the judgement of the most moderne I will not here enter into any discourse of them as being impertinent and they being apparent unto the world otherwise Thus I hope I have framed a Gordian knot by the Lawes of this Kingdome established if any man can dissolve or unty
Law they are meere estranged from any knowledge in this nature of any proceedings of each other interlocutory untill judgement given and then it must legally be brought before them Jurisdiction of Courts so that this Case is clearely meant of their joynt power wherein by custome as saith Sir Edward Cooke the Lords only proceed to reverse or affirme any Judgement upon errour no whit diminishing the Power and Authority of the House of Commons by this for divers matters may by custome be severally trans-acted by Persons having the same power and authority Transaction by one done by all representative and yet they are in Law trans-acted by all the Members or Judges of that Court representative How the opinion of Sir E. Cooke formerly is to be understood viz. according to their joynt power of Judicatu●e But I doubt not but the transcript of any Judgement in the Kings Bench may be commanded and that legally too into the House of Commons and that they may proceed thereupon either to affirme or reverse the Judgement and that by the power of that high Court as a severall and distinct Court of Justice from the House of Peeres this Case before remembred to be good Law notwithstanding but this I leave to the learned The House of Commons may take a Recognizance at a distinct court of Justice Now concerning the Recognizance before touched there is nothing expressed or implyed in this Case but that the House of Commons as a severall and distinct Court of Justice of it selfe may take a Recognizance there is no question of that for every Court of Record have that power unquestionably yea derivative Authority from Courts of Justice as Commissioners of Oier and Terminer are invested with this Authority Further The House of Commons may take a Recognizance according to their joynt power the House of Commons considered in relation to their joynt power may take a Recognizance for so saith good authority that reverend Judge Brooke in abridging the said Case of 1 H. 7. before cited Videtur quod tout un are his very words besides if there hath no such practise been or used in the House of Commons that is no proofe it is no argument from a non esse to a non posse an hundred presidents Sub silentio make not a Law it was never yet upon contestation so determined but of this sufficient Thus I hope I have cleared this false aspersion it plainely appearing that they are a High and Supreme Court of Justice joyntly and severally without the Kings personall presence The Assembly at Oxford no Parliament There hath of late been an Anti-parliament for so I may terme it erected at Oxford whereby they had thought to have weakened the power of this Parliament by Voting their proceedings as traiterous and illegall but alas these are poore shifts and evasions seeing there is an Act unto which they themselves this very Session have assented by which it appeares this Parliament cannot be held proroged or adjournied elsewhere without the consent of both Houses of Parliament now assembled so that this Assembly at Oxford is no Parliament and consequently their proceedings a meere nullity in judgement of Law and withall subject to severe Censure in regard they have assumed to themselves the Supreme Authority of the Kingdome without any warrant of Law so to doe and that spurious generation of Bastards or illegitimate Children which seeke to sever and divide the Power and Authority of this High Court by affirming any legall presence of this Assembly elsewhere the wise Salomons of this Parliament will in their due time bring to condigne punishment Well then they being in Parliament and a high Court of Justice without the King● personall presence Inferiour Courts may command Posse comitatus what question can be made of their power even as a Court of Justice to constraine and compell all persons yea even by force of Armes to submit to their supreme Authority and in case of resistance if inferiour Courts may command Posse Comitatus to execute their Processes and Injunctions as it is manifest they may for in one common Case of Replevin from the Court of Common Pleas the Sheriffe of the County as Minister to the Court of Justice if the party that hath taken a Distresse carry the same to a Fort or Castle to the end it may not be replevied he may command the power of the County to attend him and abate that Fortlet or Castle in case of resistance delivering by Replevin the Cattell to the owner Surely then the Parliament in case their Power be contemned and disobeyed may command Posse Regni and not onely Posse comitatus to bring all persons rebellious unto the Justice of that High Court there to receive according to their merits And th●s is the case of this present Parliament as I take it who have legally Summoned the Members of both Houses now absent to attend the Service of the Houses and they have not appeared but absolutely refused to obey the Summons Processe and Power of that Court which for my part what offence it is and where Censurable I leave it to the world to judge upon wh●t hath been formerly spoken there being no absolute case of necessity to plead for their absence as I could ever yet perceive and the Lawes and Statutes of this Realme being peremptory in the mulct and penalty thereof The Kings presence representative by 33. H. 8. supra Now peradventure it is necessary to know in what the Royall Assent Personally or Representative is required and that is plaine in enacting any Law or Statute to make it perpetuall to oblige the people I conceive the Royall Assent must precede yet the Royall Assent cannot in Justice be denied neither with a Le Roy s'duisera suspended unlesse satisfactory reasons be given for the same unto the Parliament for the publike good as also the confirmation of them is no act of transcendent grace but of right and Justice as hath been formerly spoken The power of the Parliament to make Ordinances paralleld with this power in inferiour Courts Nay further it must be granted that as incident to this great Court they may make Ordinances to binde the people Sedente Parliamento without any royall assent unto which Ordinances although not grounded upon the positive Lawes of this Kingdome the people ought to yeeld obedience as well as to the Ordinances Ordinances binds untill definitive Judgement though not transacted in plena cur Orders and interlocutory Judgements in other Courts of Justice unrill definitive or finall Judgement which is for the most part in Plena curia when the Court is full but that other power is used although but part of the Court be then sitting and bindeth all persons untill finall Judgement it is also plaine that in other Courts their Orders Ordinances Ordinances binding though not grounded upon the positive Lawes and interlocutory Judgements are