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A70515 Of the incurable scepticism of the Church of Rome; De insanabili romanae Ecclesiae scepticismo. English La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1688 (1688) Wing L429; Wing T705; ESTC R13815 157,482 172

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possent_fw-la in_fw-la rigore_fw-la tamen_fw-la haereticas_fw-la erroneas_fw-la etc._n etc._n respectiuè_fw-la damnamus_fw-la bulla_n ad_fw-la calcem_fw-la operum_fw-la vasq_fw-la wherewith_o pius_n v._o and_o gregory_n xiii_o condemn_a seventy_o five_o proposition_n of_o michael_n baius_n after_o it_o have_v recite_v they_o and_o confess_v that_o divers_a of_o they_o may_v be_v in_o some_o sense_n maintain_v condemn_v they_o all_o respective_o as_o heretical_a erroneous_a suspect_v rash_a scandalous_a and_o offensive_a to_o pious_a ear_n see_v a_o ambiguous_a sentence_n and_o very_o unfit_a to_o remove_v scruple_n nor_o do_v vasquez_n deny_v it_o but_o tell_v 18._o tell_v exit_fw-la quâ_fw-la censurâ_fw-la non_fw-la apparet_fw-la qualis_fw-la untcuique_fw-la propositioni_fw-la censura_fw-la sigillati●n_fw-la conveniat_fw-la vasq_fw-la in_o 1.2_o disp_n 190._o cap._n 18._o we_o that_o from_o their_o censure_n do_v not_o appear_v what_o censure_n agree_v to_o each_o single_a proposition_n wherefore_o when_o himself_o have_v undertake_v to_o defend_v some_o of_o these_o proposition_n that_o he_o may_v know_v in_o which_o of_o they_o the_o poison_n of_o heresy_n lie_v hide_v he_o begin_v to_o read_v baius_n book_n have_v first_o ask_v leave_v but_o when_o that_o will_v not_o do_v he_o consult_v cardinal_n toletus_n who_o the_o pope_n have_v send_v to_o louvain_n to_o see_v the_o bull_n put_v in_o execution_n and_o learned_a from_o he_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v condemn_v some_o of_o those_o proposition_n only_o because_o they_o be_v too_o sharp_o word_v now_o what_o a_o rare_a help_n do_v the_o church_n afford_v in_o declare_v to_o every_o one_o what_o he_o shall_v believe_v when_o the_o sense_n of_o she_o own_o decree_n can_v be_v know_v without_o consult_v her_o most_o intimate_a counselor_n such_o as_o canus_n and_o toletus_n further_o it_o may_v very_o well_o be_v that_o he_o which_o know_v the_o particular_a proposition_n condemn_v of_o heresy_n may_v 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not_o appear_v whether_o it_o be_v in_o the_o pope_n if_o we_o shall_v after_o all_o this_o grant_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o church_n infallibility_n and_o of_o her_o infallible_a decree_n not_o to_o be_v impossible_a this_o will_v contribute_v nothing_o to_o the_o establish_v our_o faith_n unless_o it_o be_v likewise_o know_v what_o be_v that_o supreme_a tribunal_n who_o decree_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v for_o if_o this_o be_v uncertain_a say_v arriaga_n 8._o arriaga_n si_fw-mi enim_fw-la incertum_fw-la hoc_fw-la esset_fw-la quicquid_fw-la de_fw-la judice_fw-la controversiarum_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la certum_fw-la de_fw-la fidecreditur_fw-la esset_fw-la planè_fw-la ridiculum_fw-la arr._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 7._o sect._n 8._o whatsoever_o be_v believe_v as_o of_o faith_n concern_v a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n in_o the_o church_n will_v be_v ridiculous_a now_o this_o thing_n be_v real_o uncertain_a as_o i_o shall_v prove_v there_o be_v three_o opinion_n concern_v 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be_v of_o faith_n that_o he_o have_v the_o power_n of_o define_v and_o infallible_a assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n rhodius_n 3._o rhodius_n si_fw-mi non_fw-la esset_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la quòd_fw-la papa_n sit_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la ergo_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr fide_fw-la quôd_fw-la non_fw-la fallatur_fw-la rhod._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la quaest_n 3._o sect._n 1_o 1_o 3._o that_o unless_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v of_o faith_n it_o will_v not_o be_v of_o faith_n that_o he_o be_v not_o actual_o mistake_v be_v it_o therefore_o of_o faith_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v infallible_a so_o indeed_o some_o of_o they_o maintain_v as_o suarez_n castrus_n palaus_fw-la lud._n abelly_n ja._n vernautius_n fr._n macedo_n theoph._n raynaudus_n amicus_fw-la caspensis_fw-la martinonus_fw-la rhodius_n and_o other_o yea_o abelly_n 47._o abelly_n veritatem_fw-la religionis_fw-la fundamentalem_fw-la articulum_fw-la fidei_fw-la ex_fw-la praecipuis_fw-la unum_fw-la 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