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A36769 An argument delivered by Patrick Darcy, esquire by the expresse order of the House of Commons in the Parliament of Ireland, 9 iunii, 1641. Darcy, Patrick, 1598-1668. 1643 (1643) Wing D246; ESTC R17661 61,284 146

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and_o the_o former_a declaration_n and_o provision_n in_o parliament_n in_o the_o case_n make_v and_o of_o force_n in_o this_o kingdom_n or_o as_o shall_v be_v order_v adjudge_v or_o declare_v in_o parliament_n and_o the_o baron_n of_o the_o exchequer_n justice_n of_o assize_n and_o goal-delivery_n if_o they_o be_v find_v in_o default_n as_o aforesaid_a it_o be_v hereby_o declare_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o undergo_v the_o punishment_n aforesaid_a whether_o the_o king_n majesty_n privy_a council_n either_o with_o the_o chief_a governor_n 3._o or_o governor_n of_o the_o kingdom_n or_o without_o he_o or_o they_o be_v a_o place_n of_o judicature_n by_o the_o common-law_n and_o wherein_o cause_n between_o party_n and_o party_n for_o debt_n trespass_n account_n possession_n or_o title_n of_o land_n or_o any_o of_o they_o and_o which_o of_o they_o may_v be_v hear_v and_o determine_v and_o
a_o argument_n deliver_v by_o patrick_n darcy_n esqvire_fw-la by_o the_o express_a order_n of_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o in_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n 9_o iunii_fw-la 1641._o print_v at_o waterford_n by_o thomas_n bourke_n printer_n to_o the_o confederate_a catholic_n of_o ireland_n 1643._o 5._o iunii_fw-la 1641._o by_o the_o commons_o house_n of_o ireland_n in_o parliament_n assemble_v forasmuch_o as_o m._n patrick_n darcy_n by_o a_o former_a order_n of_o this_o house_n be_v appoint_v prolocutor_n at_o the_o conference_n with_o the_o lord_n touch_v the_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o judge_n and_o their_o pretend_a answer_n to_o the_o same_o it_o be_v hereby_o order_v and_o the_o say_a m._n darcy_n be_v require_v to_o declare_v and_o set_v forth_o at_o the_o say_a conference_n the_o manifold_a grievance_n and_o other_o cause_n and_o ground_n that_o move_v this_o house_n to_o present_v the_o say_a question_n to_o the_o lord_n house_n to_o be_v propound_v as_o aforesaid_a and_o to_o give_v particular_a reason_n for_o every_o of_o the_o say_a question_n copia_fw-la vera_fw-la extract_n per_fw-la phil._n fern_n cleric_n parl._n com._n a_o argument_n deliver_v by_o patrick_n darcy_n esqvire_fw-la by_o the_o express_a order_n of_o the_o commons-house_n of_o the_o parliament_n of_o ireland_n at_o a_o conference_n with_o a_o committee_n of_o the_o lord_n house_n in_o the_o dine_a room_n of_o the_o castle_n of_o dublin_n 9_o die_fw-la junij_fw-la 1641._o upon_o certain_a question_n propound_v to_o the_o judge_n of_o ireland_n in_o full_a parliament_n and_o upon_o the_o answer_n of_o the_o say_a judge_n to_o the_o say_a question_n and_o in_o the_o conclusion_n a_o declaration_n of_o the_o commons_o house_n upon_o the_o say_a question_n the_o question_n question_n wherein_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o humble_o desire_v that_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v please_v to_o require_v the_o judge_n to_o deliver_v their_o resolution_n in_o 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and_o freedom_n of_o the_o say_a subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n contrary_a to_o his_o majesty_n royal_a and_o pious_a intention_n therefore_o the_o knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n in_o parliament_n assemble_v not_o for_o any_o doubt_n or_o ambiguity_n which_o may_v be_v conceive_v or_o think_v of_o for_o or_o concerning_o the_o premise_n nor_o of_o the_o ensue_a question_n but_o for_o manifestation_n and_o declaration_n of_o a_o clear_a truth_n and_o of_o the_o say_a law_n and_o statute_n already_o plant_v and_o for_o many_o age_n past_a settle_v in_o this_o kingdom_n the_o say_a knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n do_v therefore_o pray_v the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n may_v be_v please_v to_o command_v the_o judge_n of_o this_o kingdom_n forthwith_o to_o declare_v in_o write_v their_o resolution_n of_o and_o unto_o the_o ensue_a question_n and_o subscribe_v to_o the_o same_o 1._o whether_o the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n be_v a_o free_a people_n and_o to_o be_v govern_v only_o by_o the_o common_a law_n of_o england_n and_o statute_n of_o force_n in_o this_o kingdom_n 2._o whether_o the_o judge_n of_o this_o land_n do_v take_v the_o oath_n of_o judge_n and_o if_o so_o whether_o under_o pretext_n of_o any_o act_n of_o state_n proclamation_n writ_n letter_n or_o direction_n under_o the_o great_a or_o privy_a seal_n or_o privy_a signet_n or_o letter_n or_o other_o commandment_n from_o the_o lord_n lieutenant_n lord_n deputy_n justice_n justice_n or_o other_o chief_a governor_n or_o governor_n of_o this_o kingdom_n they_o may_v hinder_v stay_v or_o delay_n the_o suit_n of_o any_o subject_a or_o his_o judgement_n or_o execution_n thereupon_o if_o so_o in_o what_o case_n and_o whether_o if_o they_o do_v hinder_v stay_v or_o delay_n such_o suit_n judgement_n or_o execution_n thereupon_o what_o punishment_n do_v they_o incur_v for_o their_o deviation_n and_o transgression_n therein_o 3._o whether_o the_o king_n majesty_n privy_a council_n either_o with_o the_o chief_a governor_n or_o governor_n of_o this_o kingdom_n or_o without_o he_o or_o they_o be_v a_o place_n of_o judicature_n by_o the_o common_a law_n and_o wherein_o cause_n between_o party_n and_o party_n for_o debt_n trespass_n account_n possession_n or_o title_n of_o land_n or_o any_o of_o they_o may_v be_v hear_v and_o determine_v and_o of_o what_o civil_a cause_n they_o have_v jurisdiction_n and_o by_o what_o law_n and_o of_o what_o force_n be_v their_o order_n or_o decree_n in_o such_o case_n or_o any_o of_o they_o 4._o the_o like_a of_o the_o chief_a governor_n alone_o 5._o whether_o grant_v of_o monopoly_n be_v warrant_v by_o the_o law_n and_o of_o what_o and_o in_o what_o case_n and_o how_o and_o where_o and_o by_o who_o be_v the_o pretend_a transgressor_n against_o such_o grant_n punishable_a and_o whether_o by_o fine_a mutillation_n of_o member_n imprisonment_n loss_n and_o forfeiture_n of_o good_n or_o otherwise_o and_o which_o of_o they_o 6._o in_o what_o case_n the_o lord_n lieutenant_n lord_n deputy_n or_o other_o chief_a governor_n or_o governor_n of_o this_o kingdom_n and_o council_n may_v punish_v by_o fine_a imprisonment_n mutillation_n of_o member_n pillory_n or_o otherwise_o and_o whether_o they_o may_v sentence_v any_o to_o such_o the_o same_o or_o the_o like_a punishment_n for_o infringe_v the_o command_v of_o or_o concerning_o any_o proclamation_n or_o monopoly_n and_o what_o punishment_n do_v they_o incur_v that_o vote_n for_o the_o same_o 7._o of_o what_o force_n be_v a_o act_n of_o state_n or_o proclamation_n in_o this_o kingdom_n to_o bind_v the_o liberty_n good_n possession_n or_o inheritance_n of_o the_o native_n thereof_o whether_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o can_v alter_v the_o common_a law_n or_o the_o infringer_n of_o they_o lose_v their_o good_n chattel_n or_o lease_n or_o forfeit_v the_o same_o by_o infringe_v any_o such_o act_n of_o state_n proclamation_n or_o both_o and_o what_o punishment_n do_v the_o swear_a judge_n of_o the_o law_n that_o be_v privy_a councillor_n incur_v that_o vote_n for_o such_o act_n and_o execution_n thereof_o 8._o be_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o kingdom_n subject_a to_o the_o martial_a law_n and_o whether_o any_o man_n in_o time_n of_o peace_n no_o enemy_n be_v in_o the_o field_n with_o banner_n display_v can_v be_v sentence_v to_o death_n if_o so_o by_o who_o and_o in_o what_o case_n if_o not_o what_o punishment_n do_v they_o incur_v that_o in_o time_n of_o peace_n execute_v martial_a law_n 9_o whether_o voluntary_a oath_n take_v free_o before_o arbitrator_n for_o affirmance_n or_o disaffirmance_n of_o any_o thing_n or_o the_o true_a performance_n of_o any_o thing_n be_v punishable_a in_o the_o castle_n chamber_n or_o in_o any_o other_o court_n and_o why_o and_o wherefore_o 10._o why_o and_o by_o what_o law_n or_o by_o what_o rule_n of_o policy_n be_v it_o that_o none_o be_v admit_v to_o reducement_n of_o fine_n and_o other_o penalty_n in_o the_o castle_n chamber_n or_o council-table_n until_o he_o confess_v the_o offence_n for_o which_o he_o be_v censure_v when_o as_o revera_n he_o may_v be_v innocent_a thereof_o though_o suborn_v proof_n or_o circumstance_n may_v induce_v a_o censure_n 11._o whether_o the_o judge_n of_o the_o king_n bench_n or_o any_o other_o judge_n of_o gaol_n delivery_n or_o of_o any_o other_o court_n and_o by_o what_o law_n do_v or_o can_v deny_v the_o copy_n of_o indictment_n of_o felony_n or_o treason_n to_o the_o party_n accuse_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n 12._o what_o power_n have_v the_o baron_n of_o the_o court_n of_o exchequer_n to_o raise_v the_o respite_n of_o homage_n arbitrary_o to_o what_o rate_n they_o please_v to_o what_o value_n they_o may_v raise_v it_o by_o what_o law_n they_o may_v distinguish_v between_o the_o respite_n of_o homage_n upon_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o true_a value_n of_o the_o fee_n when_o as_o escuadge_a be_v the_o same_o for_o great_a and_o small_a fee_n
fall_v out_o that_o may_v alter_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n in_o such_o a_o case_n which_o can_v not_o be_v include_v or_o foresee_v in_o a_o general_a question_n or_o answer_v thereunto_o and_o therefore_o they_o desire_v your_o lordship_n to_o consider_v of_o what_o use_v such_o answer_n may_v be_v to_o the_o present_a and_o future_a time_n 5._o five_o many_o of_o the_o say_a question_n as_o they_o be_v propound_v as_o the_o say_a judge_n humble_o conceive_v do_v concern_v his_o majesty_n in_o a_o high_a degree_n in_o his_o regal_a and_o prerogative_n power_n in_o his_o government_n in_o his_o revenue_n in_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o his_o court_n in_o his_o martial_a affair_n and_o in_o his_o minister_n of_o state_n so_o that_o the_o say_a judge_n consider_v their_o oath_n and_o the_o duty_n which_o by_o their_o place_n they_o owe_v unto_o his_o majesty_n humble_o conceive_v they_o may_v not_o with_o safety_n give_v answer_v thereunto_o without_o special_a licence_n from_o 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