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A44184 The case stated concerning the judicature of the House of Peers in the point of appeals Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. 1675 (1675) Wing H2452; ESTC R23969 31,123 92

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THE CASE STATED Concerning the JUDICATURE OF THE House of Peers In the Point of APPEALS Printed in the Year MDCLXXV The Case stated concerning the Iudicature of the House of Peers in the point of Appeals ONe chief end of Parlaments besides that of making good and wholsome Laws for the well governing of the Kingdom is to redress and reform Abuses of Inferiour Courts and to direct them in Cases of great difficulty when by reason of some Circumstance in matter of Fact the Law is not so plain as that they can proceed to give Relief to such suiters as stand in need of Relief and demand it and then have those Courts applied themselves to the Parliament for Advice and Direction Whereas in other Cases where there hath been either a Perverting of Justice in giving a wrong Judgement or a wilful delay of Justice in giving no Judgement at all there the Party grieved complaining to the Parliament finds that Remedy which his Case requires Therefore is it that 1. R. 2. n. 95. the Commons pray That a Parliament be yearly holden to redress delays in Suits and to end such Cases as the Iudges doubt of Now the next thing to be enquired into is how and in what manner the Parliament doth exert this power of Judicature over Inferiour Courts and where and in what part of the Parliament this Jurisdiction is lodged which I think will be easily made out to be singly and solely in the Upper House the House of Peers that there it is and hath ever been both De facto de jure That it hath been Practised so you have multitudes of Presidents sometimes in case of delay in Justice sometimes in case of an Erroneous proceeding in the Application of it As in the 14. E. 3. in the Case of Sir Iohn and Sir Ieffery Stanton Sir Ieffery comes and complains to the House of Lords of delay in the Court of Common Pleas the House of Lords first send to those Judges to proceed to Judgement by a Writ containing the whole Matter as it was represented to them with this that in case the Judges there could not agree in regard of Difficulty or any other Cause they should then come into Parliament and bring with them the Record of the whole Process which Sir Iohn Stonore the Chief Justice did and then the House of Peers as it is expressed in the Roll Les Prelats Countes Barouns Autres du Parliament and who those Autres were is likewise expressed not any of the Lower House but Le Chaunceller Tresorer Iustices del un Bank del autre autres du Conseil du Roy that is Those who were Assistants in the House of Peers as the Attorney and others of the Kings learned Counsel and even the Chancellor and Treasurer if they were not Peers they declare Est finalement accordez the Roll saith it is finally agreed what the Judgement shall be and they command those Judges Quils en lour Bank aillent le Iugement rendre that they go and pronounce that Judgement in their Bench. But there is an Act of Parliament in that 14. of E. 3. c. 5. and that Act is still in force which shews the right of such a Judicature to be in the House of Peers It ordains That a Prelate two Earls and two Barons shall be chosen every Parliament who shall have a Commission from the King to hear the Complaints of those that will complain unto them of such Delays or Grievances done to them in the Chancery Kings Bench Common Bench or Exchequer shall cause the Iudges of the Court where such Delay is complained of to come before them with the whole Process in the Cause may call to them the Chancellor Treasurer Iustices of either Bench and Barons of the Exchequer as they shall think fit to assist them So shall proceed to take a good accord and make a good judgement and then send that to the Iustices before whom the Plea did depend with order that they hastily go to give judgement accordingly And if the Case were of such difficulty as that they could not well determin it they were then to bring it to the next Parlaement where a Final Accord was to be taken what judgment ought to be given which was to be sent to the Iudges and they commanded to proceed without delay and give that judgment And to begin to do Remedy upon this Ordinance they are the words of the Act the Lords are named viz. The Arch Bishop of Canterbury the Earls of Arundel and Huntington the Lord de Wake and the Lord Ralph Basset and it is Enacted that a Commission and a Power should be granted to them to endure till the next Parliament For this was but for the Intervals of Parlament the Parliament Sitting the Complaint was to be made to the House and the House to give the Redress Then for Erroneous Judgements and Decrees whether given in Courts of Law or Courts of Equity that the Remedy en dernier ressort lies likewise in the House of Peers will I think be easily proved Concerning the Courts of Law it is not at all Controverted but that by a Writ of Error all such Judgements in Inferiour Courts with which any Body shall find himself aggrieved may be removed unto and Reversed in that House if they find cause for it It is true that in Rastals Collection of Entries Tit. Error en le Parlament pag. 302. there is this Clause inserted in the Writ there entred viz. Vobis mandamus quod Record Process c. in presens Parliament c. mittatis hoc Breve ut inspect Recordo Processis predicto Nos de Consilio advisamento Dominorum Spiritualium Temporalium ac Communitatum in Parliamento nostro predict existent ulterius pro errore illo corrigendo fieri faciamus quod dejure secundum Legem consuetudinem Regni nostri Angliae fuerit faciendum Here one would think is a clear Testimony that the House of Commons are Copartners with the Lords in Judging those Writs of Error But I may say there is an Error in this Entry and it was set right that very year in the 1. of H. 7. by a Meeting and Consultation of all the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber It is in the Year-Book Pasc. 1. H. 7. p. 19 20. in Flouredews Case the words are these Et postea per avisament omnium Iusticiariorum in Camera Scaccarii existent congregat pro eadem materia errore illo corrigendo sic intelligendum est si Parliament sit apud Westm. tunc oportet partem habere billam de Rege indorsatam c. Et quam cito Billa sic indorsata fuerit Breve de Errore Transcriptum pred in Parliamento deliberentur Clericus Parliamentorum habebit custodiam inde Et per Dominos tantum non per Communitatem assignabitur Senescallus qui cum Dominis Spiritualibus Temporalibus per concilium Justiciariorum procedent
ad Errorem corrigendum Here is a Negativa praegnans to the House of Commons Et non per Communitatem as if it was not enough to say by the Lords alone there is added That it must not be by the Commons Nothing can be clearer than this and the Practice hath been according to it in all times both preceding and following Some question hath been made of Appeals from Courts of Equity whether or no that House hath Cognisance of them And more is it questioned If a Member of the House of Commons hath been concerned in the Appeal which hath now this last Session of Parliament been absolutely and peremptorily denied and strongly opposed by the House of Commons But I no wayes doubt of making it appear as clear as the Noon-day that all Appeals whoever is concerned in them are regularly and properly within the Cognisance and the Jurisdiction of the House of Peers and so have ever been And to speak truly There was Antiently no difference in the way of complaining of Erroneous Judgements given in Courts of Law and that of unjust Decrees made in a Court of Equity Both were by way of Petition from the Party grieved setting forth the Cause of his Complaint and shewing wherein the Court had Erred in the Adjudging and Determining his Cause before them In the Rolls of Parliament from the beginning of Edward the Third to the end of Edward the Fourth which are all that are in the Tower there is no mention of any Complaint of an Erroneous Judgement brought into Parliament that is to the House of Peers by a Writ of Error as it is now the Practice from the Courts of Law but all were by Petition as the Appeals are now from Decrees in Equity And this Change is crept in of late Years we know not how nor exactly when but certainly in those times of which the Parlament Journals are either totally lost as those of the times of Richard the 3 d and Henry the 7 th and between the 7 th and the 25 th of Henry the 8 th or else made so Concise and Imperfect recording nothing but Bills and their several Readings and some Proceedings upon them and very little as good as nothing of any private Businesses that one cannot have a certain knowledge how the Judicature was then exercised in the House of Lords as appears by the Journals extant of H. the 8 th and all since even till the 18 th of King James when Henry Elsing came to be Clerk of the Parliament who first took care to enter duly in the Journal Book all that passed in the House But however this Alteration and the difference that seemingly is between complaining by a Petition of Appeal and bringing of a Writ of Error hath given occasion to the House of Commons to Dispute the Jurisdiction of the House of Peers in case of Appeals and pass some Vote against it and more Declaredly and Avowedly to oppose the Proceedings of the Peers upon Appeals when any Member of their House hath been concerned For Appeals in General They have declared that the House of Lords hath no Right to Receive and Judge of any from Courts of Equity a thing was never Questioned in any preceding Parliament though it hath been ever Practised And there is the same Reason for it if not more than for their reversing Erroneous Judgements at the Common Law For in the Courts of Common Law there are Four Judges and they will not easily be all mistaken and all concur in giving a false Judgement and a Suitor there is more like to receive Justice especially in regard they have a strict Rule to go by the Rule of the Law which is a known Rule than where there is but one Judge as in Chancery and who hath a greater Latitude to proceed by varying from the exact Rule of Law and guiding himself much by his own Discretion It is easie for such a Judge to err though perhaps not willingly and hard it were that there should then be no Remedy But it will be said The King may then grant a Commission to certain Persons to give Relief to such as shall find themselves aggrieved with any unjust Decree as was done by Queen Eliz. in the 43 d. year of her Reign in a Case of the Countess of Southampton and the Earl of Worcester mentioned by Serjeant Rolls in the Report of the Case of Vaudrey and Pannel p. 331. where he saith it was resolved by all the Judges which they set under their Hands that when a Decree is made in Chancery upon Petition to the Queen She may refer it to the Judges but not to any other but to them to Examine and Reverse the Decree if there be cause and accordingly by such a Reference that Decree was Reversed Sir Edward Cook also in his 4 th Institute c. 8. treating of the Court of Chancery gives two Presidents more of the like nature one of the same 43. Eliz. in Sir Moyle Finches Case he Defendant the Earl of Worcester and others Plaintiffs whereupon a Petition to the Queen a Decree in Chancery was referred to the Judges and their Resolutions against it being certified into the Chancery the Decree was Reversed The other President is three Years before 40. Eliz. in Throgmorton's Case the same Sir Moyle Finch there likewise Defendant where a Demurrer of his being Over-ruled by the Chancellor upon a Reference to the Judges it was by them otherwise resolved and their Resolution being by the Chief Justice Popham signified to the Chancellor there was no further proceeding in Chancery To these Presidents is answered First That it may be doubted if the Opinion and Proceedings of the Judges at that time be so authentick as to make it pass for Law to set up a new Court of Equity Sir Edward Cook in the same Treatise fol. 87. saith in Perrots Case Mich. 26 and 27. Eliz. That it was resolved by Sir Christopher Wray Chief Justice and the Court of Kings Bench That the Queen could not raise a Court of Equity by Her Letters-Patents and that there could be no Court of Equity but either by Act of Parliament or by Prescription time out of mind And in Hobberts Reports fol. 63. in the Case of Martin and Marshal it is said That this Court of Equity is a special Trust committed to the King and not by him to be Committed to any other but his Chancellor How then can King or Queen Commissionate any or her Persons to be Judges in Equity of any Cause For what is it but a Court of Equity when all the Judges are Commissionated to assemble themselves to rehear a Cause formerly Decreed in Chancery which they do Judge a-new and Determin it upon hearing Counsel of both sides for or against the Decree Secundum aequum bonum according to the Course of Equity and not by the strict Rule of Law This is certainly at least a Temporary Court of Equity It is true that for
much beholding to them whose best Title to and strongest Hold of his New-gotten Crowne was their Affection and Good-will towards him Therefore the Lords may very well owne the citing of that Record and not account it any Dishonour to them notwithstanding the gentle admonition given them to the contrary by the Writer of that Paper of Reasons And so I hope I have sufficiently evinced this truth that the sole J●dicature of Parlament is lodged in the House of Peers and that all who come for relief to Parlament must have it there It now rests to shew that it extends to the Relieving of such as have suffered wrong in Courts of Equity and receiving of Appeales from those Courts We have already seen that in case of Delay of Justice the House of Lords doth give Relief and by the same reason they may do it in case of Deniall of Justice and of doing Injustice And in truth there is greater Reason for it for when Justice is but delayed a little waiting and patience may happily bring a Remedy but when an unjust Decree is given there is a Ne plus ultra in that Court no help is to be there expected and without such an Appeal the Party grieved must be without Remedy Then why not as well receive an Appeal from a Court of Equity and give Relief upon it if there be cause as to reverse an Erroneous Judgement upon a Writ of Error from a Court of Common Law as hath been said already there is more danger from a Court of Equity where ones Doome depends upon the will of one Man that is not tied to the strict Rule of Law than where there are four Judges who have that strict Rule to goe by And can it be believed that in a Government so well modelled and established by the Wisdom of our Ancestors as this is there should be a standing known Remedy appointed for the lesser evil which apparently will more rarely happen and none for the greater which probably may befall us much more frequently In the third place one may argue thus By the constitution of this Government generally from all Inferiour Courts where any Body is grieved he may appeale to a Superiour and so Gradatim till he come to the highest of all the Supreame Judicature in Parlament as 50. E. 3. n. 38. was said to the Bishop of Norwich that Errors in the Common Pleas were to be corrected in the Kings Bench and of the Kings Bench in the Parlament So from particular Courts that are in several Counties and from Judges of Assize yea from Ireland the Party grieved resorts to the Courts of Westminster and from them to the Parlament This is the ordinary Tract but where it is otherwise provided by Act of Parlament in special Cases to make some Judgements in some Judicatories finall Else the last resort where all appealing terminates is the supreame Court of Parlament whither they have still come from all the Courts in England sometimes Gradatim by steps going first to other Courts sometimes immediately Per saltum from the Court it self where the Judgement complained of was first given And so have they received Complaints and given Relief from Sentences in the Star-Chamber as in 1641. April 2. to Mr. Lambert Osbolston In the High Commission to Nicholas Bloxam 1640. Febr. 9. and to Sir Robert Howard December 22. the same Parlament and to Iohn Turner December 30. who had laine fourteen years in Prison by a Sentence of the High Commission So from an Order of the Counsel Table to William Waters and Thomas Waters Ianuary 25. who had been committed thence for refusing to pay Ship-Money and they made Dr. Clerk and Dr. Sibthorp reimburse their charges and pay them 100 l. damages for procuring them that trouble by a false Certificate The 9 th of February from a Sentence in the Ecclesiastical Court at Glocester by which Iohn Radway William Newark and Walter Coates had been committed to Prison and Excommunicated And February 23. The Lords gave Relief to Abraham Hill who had been committed to Prison by the Major of Colchester Multitudes of such Presidents may be produced who will take the pains to look over the Journals but these are sufficient to shew that upon complaint the House of Peers hath still given Redress to what ever hath been done amiss by any other Court Ecclesiastical or Civil Court of Law or Court of Equity and was never found fault with till now But now they must not meddle with Appeals from Decrees in Chancery and if a Member of the House of Commons be concerned it is then a Breach of their Priviledge and that House will punish any Counsel that shall appear at the Lords Barr to plead against a Member together with the Party himself that brings the Appeal and all others employed by him in the solliciting and following his business So then a Person that cannot obtaine Justice in Chancery who perhaps hath been brought thither against his will and is barred by an Injunction there from pursuing his Right in any other of the Kings Courts of Westminster and that wrongfully as Injunctions are some times laid on in Chancery There he cannot have Right but is opprest with an unjust Decree and he hath no Remedy but must lie under that Oppression and the Supreame Court of Judicature in the Kingdome which receives Complaints and gives Relief against the Erroneous Proceeding of all other Courts must be Impotent in this behalf This is not only a Derogation to the High Court of Parlament but it would be a great Defect in the general Administration of Justice in this Kingdome To this is answered Yes there is a Remedy proposed to prevent a Failer of Justice The King may grant a special Commission whensoever there is occasion to certain Persons to the Judges as it was 43. Eliz. to reheare the Cause and give relief to the Party grieved But it is replied First That it may be doubted if this can be done without an Act of Parliament Secondly Admit it may yet as the King may grant it so he may refuse it for there is no Law to make him do it Ex debito Iustitiae therefore if he doth it it will be but Ex gratia ex mero motu which doth not salve the Objection that there would be a defect in the established Rule for the Administration of Justice which ought to make the doeing of Justice a necessary Duty incumbent on the Magistrate be he Supreame or be he subordinate and not leave it voluntary to himself to be Ad libitum It cannot be believed that the Wisdome of our Ancestors would leave the Administration of Justice so loose and uncertaine We see how in the time of Henry the Eight when they annexed all Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction to the Crown they by Act of Parlament 25. H. 8. c. 19. gave the King power by Commission under the Great Seal to appoint such Persons as he shall Name to reheare any Cause
judged in Ecclesiastical Courts whereof any Person is grieved and will appeal and it cannot be denied him So in Queen Elizabeths time they provide for those who are grieved with Judgements given in the Kings Bench or Exchequer and because Parlaments were not so frequent as formerly that Men should not stay long for Relief 27 31. Eliz. they appoint a rehearing by all the Judges meeting in the Exchequer Chamber from whence they might afterwards have their Recourse to Parlament But still the Statute leaves it to their Election to sue in Parlament and not go to the Judges at all except they please Now can we imagine they would take no care to give relief from unjust Decrees in Chancery but that the Current of Justice must there be at a dead stand A Man perhaps be Ruined against all Law and Equity and no help for him no remedy for so it must have been if a Parlament could not relieve him For that way of having a Commission under the Broad Seale directed to the Judges was never thought on till about the 43. of the Queen in those few Cases nor hath it ever been Practised since that wee know so as wee may be bold to affirme that our Ancestors knowing the Parlament to be the Supreame Court to which all Persons aggrieved with the proceedings of Inferior Courts did apply themselves for Relief and there had it thought it not needful to make any other Provision for those who should receive wrong in Chancery where heretofore they did not often doe wrong because in those dayes they had little worke not meddling with many Causes and the Chancellors were commonly Church-Men Sir Edward Cook saith That the first Decree in Chancery that ever he observed was 17. R. 2. and that an Act of Parlament had passed that same Year which gave the first ground for those Proceedings giving the Chancellor power to award Dammages according to his discretion to such as were vexed in that Court upon untrue Suggestions such Suggestions being duely found and proved untrue Certain it is they were in those times very rare the same Sir Edward Cook saith That none are found reported in their Law-Books before the Reigne of Henry the 6 th And this is one Reason why we find no Appeales in the antient Journals Besides as we have said before that the Journals are many of them lost and those that remaine are very imperfect Yet some there are That very first Decree before mentioned of the 17. R 2. n. 10. came to be examined 〈◊〉 the House of Lords The Case was t●●s Iohn de Windsor being put out of Fossession of three Mannors in Cambridgeshire by Sir Robert de Lisle they referr themselves to the Arbitration of the King and Privy Councel who find it reasonable that Sir Robert de Lisle should restore them to Windsor and a Decree is made in Chancery to put this in Execution Lisle then petitions that he may be left to the Common Law The King grants it sends a Privy Seal to the Bishop of Winchester who was then Lord Chancellor and not William Courtney Arch-Bishop of Canterbury as Sir Edward Cook hath it to remand the whole Matter to be tried at Law The Chancellor doth it by a Writ de Procedendo under the Broad Seale Sir Robert de Lisle in the Interim sells these Lands to Sir Richard le Scroope Iohn de Windsor sets forth all this in a Petition to the King and Lords in Parlament and accuses Sir Richard le Scroope of Champerty The Lords order all the Proceedings to be brought into the House what passed in Chancery and what at the Privy Seal All which was viewed and examined by them and upon the whole Matter they gave this Judgement Quod non fuit nec habebatur aliqua Cambipartia Quod predictus Johannes nihil capiat per Petitionem suam Quod predi●lus Ricardus eat inde quietus ac Quod predictus Johannes pro●equatur ad Communem Legem in hac parte si sibi viderit expedire The Lords here doe examine and Judge of what was done in Chancery which shews their Jurisdiction to extend thither And even their taking notice of any delay there is Argument sufficient of this Jurisdiction which Jurisdiction the Statute 14. E. 3. c. 5. doth fully prove to have been in them before the making of that Statute for that Statute doth onely provide for the placing it in some Lords named by the House to be exercised by them after the Parlament is Risen until it meet again and for that Interval of time Which shews that during the Parlaments 〈◊〉 such an expedient needs not for the relief of those who are de●ayed in Chancery because then the House doth it by a Power inherent in them and which so hath been time out of mind For there is no Record when that Power began no more then for their Power of rectifying Erroneous Judgments at the Common Law So that if the Lords be asked when that Power was given them and where it is Recorded They may answer as the House of Commons answered them in another Case about Imposing upon Merchandize that it will be found on the back-side of the Record by which they are Authorised for Erroneous Judgements For in truth there is no more a Record for the one then for the other Both those Powers are naturally of the Ess●nce of a Parlament not conferred upon it by any Law extant But as the Common Law of the Land it is by Prescription time out of mind which is the difference between the Common Law and Statute Law The Common Law is by an●ient Usage and Custome of which no Man knowes the beginning Statute Lawes have a knowen time of beginning when first they were made and established by King Lords and Commons in Parlament before which time they were not in being Now we may say that the Power to correct the Errors of Inferior Courts as well of Law as of Equity and so of the Chancery is lodged in Parlament as a part of their Judicature by the Common Law of the Land I say of the Chancery both as it is a Court of Equity and as it is a Court of Common Law For both those Courts are in Chancery that of Common Law Coram domino Rege in Cancellaria is of all Antiquity and upon a Judgment given in this Court lies a Writ of Error returnable in the Kings Bench and consequently from thence to Parlament that of Equity is not so antient it is a Power growen up by degrees Sir Edward Cook saith That some are of Opinion that a Statute made 36. E. 3. did first give the Chancellor this Authority which Opinion he confutes and refers it rather to another Statute of 17. R. 2. as hath been said before however it is certain that In principio non fuit sic in the beginning it was not so And when ever or how ever it began when once it was begun and had a being it became subordinate
Erroneous Judgements in the Kings Bench or in the Exchequer a Writ of Error lies to bring them before the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber but it is by Act of Parliament Several Acts have been made to give that Relief First The 31. E. 3 c. 12. which gives Power to the Chancellor and Treasurer to call the Judges to assist them to examine Errors in the Exchequer Then the 27. Eliz. c. 8. which makes Judgements in the Kings Bench examinable by all the Judges of the other Courts in the Exchequer Chamber And the 31. Eliz. c. 1. which gives some further Regulation in the proceedings upon Judgements given in each of those Courts as well the Exchequer as the Kings Bench And that of the 27 th of the Queen gives the Reason in the Preamble why those Laws were made because before that time Erroneous Judgements given in the Kings Bench could only be Reformed in the High Court of Parliament and the Parliament did not so often sit in those days as formerly But there is no Act of Parliament nor no Law which gives Power to the King to enable either the Judges or any Body else out of Parliament to examine a Decree made in Chancery though it be never so Unjust and Erroneous therefore it may well be doubted if such a Commission were according to Law notwithstanding the Resolution of the Judges at that time But admit such a Commission were Legal and that the King had Power to Appoint and Authorise Persons to receive and judge of Appeals from the Chancery as he doth Delegates for Appeals from Ecclesiastical Courts which Power is given him by Act of Parliament 25. H. 8. c. 19. yet that would not conclude the House of Peers but that they might receive an Appeal even from the Sentence of those Commissioners seeing it is the Kings Supream Court of Judicature and where Henry the 8 th said upon occasion of what happened in Parlament in the Case of Ferrars that he was Informed by his Judges that he stood Highest in his Royal Estate Therefore even those Acts of Parliament that Erect a Judicature of all the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber to examine and reverse Erroneous Judgements given in the Kings Bench and in the Exchequer do not exclude an Appeal even from thence to the Parliament The words of the Statute of 27. Eliz. are these And be it further Enacted that such Reversal or Affirmation of any such former Judgement shall not be so Final but that the Party who findeth him grieved therewith shall and may Sue in the High Court of Parliament for the further and due Examination of the said Judgement in such sort as is now used upon Erroneous Judgements in the Kings Bench. And it doth naturally and necessarily follow that it must be so if the House of Peers be the Supream Court of Judicature That the High Court of Parliament is so no Man will deny It rests only to make out that by the High Court of Parliament in matter of Judicature is intended the House of Peers where such Jurisdiction is solely Lodged And that it is so it will be proved by good Authorities and by right Reason The Authorities are taken out of the Parlament Rolls which declare it throughout from the beginning to the end both in the ancient Records and in the Modern Journal Books They all speak the House of Peers that is King and Lords to be the sole Judges both of Persons and Things Criminal and Civil and the House of Commons to have no part in it at all The first Parlament Roll extant is 4. E. 3. and it begins with a Judgement given by the Peers upon Roger de Mortimer E. of March Per qoi les ditz Countes Barouns Piers come Juges du Parlement per assent du Roi en mesme le Parlement agarderent aiugerent que le dit Roger come treitor enemy du Roi du Roialme feust treyne pendu The Earls Barons and Peers as Judges of Parlament c. they are Characterised Judges of Parlament as a thing known and notorious to all Men. They at the same time exercised their Judicature upon Sir Simon de Bereford John Mautrauers Bogo de Bayons John Deueroil Thomas de Gurney and William de Ode who were Commoners and no Peers those were all Condemned but only Sir Simon de Bereford Executed for the others were not taken and none of them all neither the Earl of March nor Bereford called to Answer but the Lords were forced to Condemne them by the earnest pressing of the King which so troubled their Consciences that they presently came to an Agreement with the King not to be hereafter compelled to give Judgment upon any but their Peers which is that of 4. E. 3. n. 6. which is hinted in a Paper said to be Reasons prepared by the House of Commons for a Conference with the Lords and to be Read to their Lordships as a Matter of huge Importance to disprove the Power of the House of Peers of judging Commoners when it was only an Agreement as it were a Bargain made with the King that he should not force them to Judge any but their Peers For that was a thing they were tied unto by Law and they could not avoid it Ne soient mes tenuz ne chargez a rendre juggementz sur autres are the words of the Record I see not what great Matter can be built upon this President to dispossess them of their Judicature It was a voluntary Act of the Lords at that time even an effect of their Indignation against themselves for having yielded to doe an unjust thing at the pressing Importunity of the King to Condemne Men unheard and not called to Answer for themselves as the Lords themselves confessed 28. E. 3. when an Act of Parlament passed to reverse this Judgement But that they did afterwards commonly judge Commoners in Criminal Causes is very apparent That very Parlament notwithstanding that Agreement made Sir Thomas Berkley was tried before them by a Jury for the death of Edward the 2 d and acquitted The House of Commons themselves 1. R. 2. n. 30. come and desire the Lords to exercise this Judicature upon such as had betraied Forts and Towns into the hands of Enemies the words are Supplie est per les Coēs que touz ceux qont renduz perduz Chastelz on Villes per de la per verray desauce de Capitaine puissent estre a response a ceste Parlement solonc lour desert forsement puniz per agard des Srs. Baronage c. That they may by the Judgement of the Lords and the Baronage be severely Punished according to their deserts The Lords accordingly cause to be brought before them William de Weston for Surrendring the Castle of Outhrewick and John de Gomeniz for Surrendring the Town and Castle of Arde and Adjudged them to Death The same Parlament Alice Perrers who had been in high favour with Edward
yielded himself and come to the King at York the King having thereupon delivered this Petition to the Justices to have them consider of it the Lords protested against it said the ordering of it belonged to them And that therefore as Peers of Parlament to whom such Iudgement belonged they would take the Business into Consideration themselves and then examining the Statutes that of 25. E. 3. of Treason and of the second of the then King H. 4. against Liveries upon well weighing them they adjudged the Earle of Northumberlands Fact to be no Treason but only a Trespass fineable to the King Whereupon the King pardoned him and received him into Favour And the Lords were not more careful to assert and maintain this Jurisdiction of theirs than all English-Men were to acknowledge it the Judges both in and out of Parlament have ever had a Deference to it In the Year-Book of 40 E. 3. Termino Michaelis pag. 39. An Action being brought upon the Writ de Rationabili parte bonorum and some difference being of Opinions if the Action was good that learned Judge Moubray delivered his Qe les Seignours en Parlement ne graunteront my que cest accion est maintenable per ascun comune custome ou ley de ce Realme The Lords in Parlament will not yield this Action to be maintainable he meant they had Judged it otherwise And to that Judgement of the Lords Sir Edward Cook hath Reference in his Comment upon Littleton Sect. 267. where he saith that it hath been resolved in Parlament that a Custome must be alledged in some County c. to enable the Wife and Children to the Writ de Rationabili parte bonorum It would be but Labour lost to heap up more Proofs and more Presidents for the asserting and maintaining of the Judicature of the House of Peers Yet I shall add one more which is in truth Instar omnium for it is a Law having the Concurrence of King Lords and Commons not a Constituting-Law but a Declaratory-Law which is the strongest asserting and confirmation of any Law or Custome already established that can be It is that of the 1. H. 4 n. 79. the Record saith That the Commons come and shew to the King That as Iudgements in Parlament belong only to the King and Lords and not to the Commons except in case it please the King out of his special Grace to acquaint them with those Iudgements in favour to them so that no Entry ought to be made Prejudicial to them to make them Parties now or hereafter to any Judgements given or hereafter to be given in Parlament To which the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury answered by the Kings Command that the Commons are but even Petitioners and Suitors and that the King and Lords have ever had and ever shall have Right to the Judicature of Parlament as the Commons do themselves set forth saving that the King will have their Advice and Assent in making of Laws and granting of Subsidies and doing such things for the Publick Good This Order to be observed and kept in all times to come Here is a cleare Renunciation of all Pretence to Judicature by the Commons themselves and a full Declaration and Acknowledgement of it to be only in the King and Lords that it hath been ever so for the time past and must be so for ever in time to come And this declared by King Lords and Commons as a thing Notorious known to all Men and not disputed or doubted of by any What can be said against this Yes that Paper which goes about from Hand to Hand that I mentioned before of Reasons prepared for a Conference saith that this Record was made upon occasion of Judgements given by the Lords to Depose and Imprison their Lawful King to which the Commons were unwilling to be made Parties Admit it were so yet no Man would think that the House of Commons would to avoid that present Inconvenience divest themselves to all intents and purposes of so great a Priviledge if in other things and before that time they had ever had right to such a Priviledge nay more that they would say against themselves a thing in it self untrue if it were untrue as in truth it is not but is most true viz. That Judgements in Parlament belong only to the King and Lords and not to the Commons This is not to be believed being against the general Practice of all Judges of Courts that will Ampliare Jurisdictionem rather than deliver it up or diminish it and very contrary to their Practice in particular who have been far from suffering any of their Power of Judgeing and Imprisoning any Body to grow less and weaker since the 34. of H. 8. in Ferrers Case which is the first time that ever they Judged or Imprisoned any Body even of their own Members much less any other Body for what Offence soever though never so much in Violation of their Priviledges And that was when Ferrers a Member of their House sitting the Parlament was Arrested and Imprisoned in the Counter and their Serjeant sent by them only to demand their Member to come and attend the House not to bring those who had Arrested him as Delinquents to their Bar or any wayes to Punish them yet he was Beaten his Mace broken glad to return himself and leave the Member behind Then could they with their Speaker come up the whole House to the Lords Bar to complain and pray them to do them Justice And the Lords upon hearing this Complaint judged the Contempt to be very great and referred the Punishment to them being themselves it seems upon other Business and not at leasure for that Here was the beginning of the House of Commons Punishing any Body they were permitted to Inflict the punishment when the House of Lords had Judged the Offence For before that time they could but complain of any Wrong received the Lords were to Judge of it and punish the Offender If a Sheriff had not carried himself well in an Election of a Knight of the Shire the Lords took Course in it 5. H. 4. n. 38. The Sheriff of Rutlandshire had returned Onby instead of Thorp who was duly chosen the Lords upon Complaint to them command him to amend his Return and commit him to the Fleet and put him to Fine and Ransome at the Kings pleasure 18. H. 6. n. 18. The Sheriff of Cambridgeshire had made no Return at all The King by Advice of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal orders a new Election and the Sheriff to make Proclamation that no Person come thither with Arms in disturbance of the Peace 38. H. 6. n. 35. Many Knights of Counties and other Members had been unduly returned yet were received to sit the Commons come and desire they may be allowed for good and no Sheriff incur for it the penalty of the Statute 23. H. 6. which the King and Lords assented to at their Request If any of the Members or
no sending of Counsell to the Tower for pleading for their Clients at the Lords Bar no stop of the Current of Justice It was then observed what the Wisdome of our Fore-Fathers had enjoyned Westminster the 2 d. Nemo recedat a Curia Regis sine remedio But if that should be allowed which is pretended and challenged by the House of Commons as their Priviledge if a Member of theirs be concerned though a Man have received never so hard measure though never so erroneous and unjust a Judgement have been given against him in any of the Courts of Westminster Hall for there is the same reason for both for Writs of Error from a Court of Law as from Appeals from a Court of Equity if Priviledge of the Commons House exempts from the one it must exempt from the other there is no help for him he must sit down and lay his hand upon his Mouth and not once whisper but must Recedere a Curia Regis and that the chief Court the supreame Court sine Remedio So here is an absolute failer of Justice which as Sir Edward Cook saith the Law abhors And as it seemes to me it is upon an irrational ground For here is Priviledge of Parlament against the Parlament it self which makes a Parlament Felo de se to give a Priviledge which enervates it's Power a Power which is proper and peculiar to Parlaments the Dernier Ressort by which it helps when no other Court can help This is taken away and cannot exert it self when a Member of the House of Commons is concerned Against the Rule of all Courts for in other Courts as Chancery Kings Bench Exchequer the Officers that belong to those Courts claime a Priviledge to be sued no where else but no Priviledge to free them that they shall not be sued in their own Courts Now the House of Peers is a Court of Judicature as it is a Part of the Parlament Pars constituens of a Parlament and the Members of the House of Commons have Priviledge as they are Members of Parlament and as their House is the other Pars constituens of a Parlament for both together are Partes constituentes Parliamentum and both make but one Parlament though they be two several constituting Parts And it is not rational to think that either of those Parts can be entituled to a Priviledge which shall abridge the other Part from doeing those Functions which are proper and natural to it As if the House of Peers should assume to themselves a Priviledge that the House of Commons could not without their leave and consent first had propose the Raising of Moneys by way of Tax or Subsidy This is against the nature and constitution of our Parlaments and therefore it cannot be imagined to be true that such a Priviledge can belong to the Lords by one that understands any thing of the Nature of Parlaments And truely it is even as great an Absurdity to say that the House of Commons hath a Priviledge to give a stopp to the Lords proceeding in the hearing of a Cause as a Court of Judicature if one of their Members is concerned in it For the hearing of Causes by way of Appeale or of Writ of Error is as proper and as natural to the House of Lords as a Bill of Subsidy to begin in the House of Commons is proper to that House But I have heard it said that this would be destructive to the House of Commons if the Lords could compell their Members to appeare at their Barr and attend their Causes there and if they would not appear commit them as is the use of other Courts For say they as they commit one they may commit more and even fetch them all out of the House to leave none or not a number to attend the Service there But first this is a mischief so unlike ever to happen that one need almost as little fear it as the Skie falling to kill all the Larks if it were so that they should take upon them to commit those that would not appeare and answer For it is not to be imagined that so many would be concerned in Appeals or Writs of Error at one time as that there would not be enough left to carry on the Business of the House since at most perhaps two or three in a whole Session may be concerned And if so small a number should for their particular occasions which they cannot avoid being sued by others be kept for some few dayes from attending the Publick Service the Matter seems not so great since all along this Parlament for twelve or thirteen years together this House hath had the goodness to dispense still with the attendance of at least two hundred of their Members who have remained at their several Homes for their pleasure many all for their private occasions without coming at all to beare their parts of the Houses Service This is more like to be an Inconvenience to that Service then if the Lords should commit two or three single Persons amongst them for not appearing upon Summons when they are sued before them But none of this need be feared For the House of Lords doth not pretend to a power of committing any Member of the House of Commons if they will not appear nor any Body else for not appearing or not answering being sued before them in a Civil Cause If they will not appeare by themselves or by their Atturney and put in their Answer being lawfully Summoned and having no lawful Excuse for not doeing what is required of them and what they ought to do but will stand out in contempt of their Jurisdiction they will proceede to hear the Cause Ex parte and determine it as they did in the Case of the Deane and Chapter of St. Cedde in Lichfield and the Prior of Newport-Pannel upon a Writt of Error 18. R. 2. n. 11 12. c. The Deane and Chapter had the Parlament before preferred a Petition An̄re S r. tres redoute le Roi a les nobles S rs de cest Parlement c. complaining of a Judgement in the Kings Bench by which an Annuity of 20 Mark per ann and an Arreare of an hundred which they had recovered in the Common Pleas was judged against them in the Kings Bench and had prayed a Scire facias for the Prior to appeare returnable this Parlament which was granted And the Prior now Solempniter vocatus non venit being solemnly called appeared not Whereupon the Record saith Decanus Capitulum petierunt Iudicium Parliamenti quod ob defaltam nunc Prioris procedatur ad examinationem Recordi Processus praedicti Brevis de Errore Quod in Parliamento concessum est The Dean and Chapter demand Judgement and that upon the Default of the Prior they will goe on to examine the Business which the Parlament granted They do so and then give Judgement for the Dean and Chapter And in truth there is all the
their Servants were Beaten or Wounded or Arrested the House of Commons could not themselves punish them by their own Authority but must come to the King and Lords and pray in their Aid sometimes to punish them judicially sometimes to make an Act 〈◊〉 Parlament for it as was done 5. H. 〈◊〉 the Case of Rich. Chedder Servant 〈◊〉 Tho. Brooke Knight for Sommerset●●●●e who was Assaulted and Beaten by one Iohn Savage The King by the Advice and Assent of the Lords at the Request of the Commons ordained that Savage should appeare and yield himself in the Kings Bench within a Quarter of a Year after Proclamation made for that purpose and appearing or not appearing if attainted of the Fact should pay double Damages to the Party and make Fine and Ransome at the Kings will and so to be done in time to come in like Cases And n. 74. of the same Parlament the Commons pray That all such Persons as shall Arrest any Knight or Burgess or their Servants As Parlementz venantz illeoques demurrantz a lour propres restournantz coming staying and returning not Forty dayes before the Sitting and Forty dayes after as now should pay Trebble damages to the Party grieved and make Fine and Ransome at the Kings will 31. H. 6. n. 25 26. Tho. Thorp their Speaker and Walter Raile a Member during a Prorogation had been taken in Execution and laid up in Prison when the Parlament came they wanted their Speaker and one of their Members and there-upon sent up some of their Number to the Lords to complain and desire them to set them at Liberty far from going about to do it themselves the Lords advise with the Judges and after Consultation think not fit to deliver them because they were imprisoned upon a Condemnation before Parlament when there was no Priviledge which they signifie to the Commons and charge them in the Kings Name to chuse another Speaker which they did one Sir Thomas Charlton Yet if any of the Members or their Servants were arrested within time of Priviledge then upon complaint the Lords did use to set them at Liberty as they did 8. H. 6. n. 57. William Lake Servant to William Mildred Burgess for London 39. H. 6. n. 9. Walter Clerk Burgess for Chippenham 14. E. 4. n. 55. Walter Hyde Burgess for the same place 17. E. 4. n. 55. Iohn Atwell Burgess for Exeter But the House of Commons never pretended either to Discharge any body out of Prison or to Commit any body to Prison or impose a Fine in any Case whatsoever till that 34 th of H. 8. when it was in one particular Case permitted and referred to them by the House of Peers Nor indeed can it stand with Reason and the Rules of Justice they should have such a Jurisdiction in regard they cannot give an Oath And is it rational or any wayes just that any Man should either be disseised of Property or deprived of Liberty without there be Testimony upon Oath that he hath done some thing to deserve it This seem to be against the Fundamental Laws of the Kingdome All this considered it is not probable were it true that the House of Commons did dislike that Acting of the Lords in the Case of Rich the Second to Unthrone and Imprison their Lawful King that yet out of that dislike and to avoid the present evil of being made joynt Actors in and Parties to that particular Judgement they would renounce being Parties to any and for ever debar themselves of a Power and Priviledge which did justly belong to them Nay more say they never had such a Power that it belonged onely to the King and Lords and that their part was but to sue and to petition This is hardly to be believed But who reades the Story will see that the Inference is not true and will find that at that time the Common People and even that House of Commons were full as much if not more than the Lords displeased with King Richard and favourers of Henry the 4 th who did so much rely upon the affection of the People that he brought no Military force with him out of France where he had remained in Banishment and that he landed at Rauenspurre in Holderness only with fifteen Lances but soon encreased to an Army of threescore thousand Men for as Historians say his strength was in the Hearts of the People where King Richards should have been who had so little of their Good-wills that when he was sent from Chester to London certaine Citizens had conspired to way-laye him and kill him if the Lord Major having intelligence of it had not prevented it himself riding forth with convenient company to guard him to the Tower And when the Parlament came which Henry the fourth then Duke of Lancaster called by Wri●●s of Summons in King Richards name the House of Commons was as forward as the Lords in every point for Decrying Condemning and Deposing of King Richard When his Resignation was declared unto them by the Arch-Bishop of Yorke and Bishop of Hereford whom King Richard had made his Atturneys for that purpose and they were demanded if they would assent and agree to it they with one general Voice did expresly accept and admit the same When the Articles of his Charge were read unto them they all agreed that his Crimes were notorious and he worthy for the same to be deposed of his Princely Dignity and joyned in appointing Commissioners two Knights Sir Thomas Erpinghan and Sir Tho. Grey for them to goe with two Prelates and two Temporal Lords for the Peers to the Tower to pronounce unto King Richard the Sentence of his Deposition And they promoted several things that Parlament in favour of Henry the 4 th and his Friends and to the Depression and Reproach of Richard the second and his Friends which they inserted among their Petitions which according to usage they presented at the end of the Parlament which being granted at their request were established for Acts of Parlament So as the Penner of that Paper of Reasons for a Conference was much mistaken in what he there said of the Commons being then unwilling to be made Parties to that Judgement because it was to Depose their Lawful King and sure he either never had read the Story of those times or had forgotten it otherwise he would have knowen that they were as busie Actors as the Lords in that Deposing I mean in the Prosecution of it though not in the Judgement given upon it to which as to all other Judgements they disclaimed to have any right or Interest And it is in my Opinion rather an unanswerable Argument that they had no Interest nor could have none in any Judgement their Disclaiming it at this time and upon this occasion when they knew that nothing would be done to displease them and they were sure to obtain almost any thing they would ask with reason and with any colour of a new King so