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ecclesiae_fw-la causas_fw-la praesertim_fw-la articulâ—s_fw-la fidei_fw-la contingentes_fw-la ad_fw-la petri_n sedem_fw-la referendas_fw-la intelliget_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la quaerenti_fw-la domino_fw-la quem_fw-la discipuli_fw-la dicerent_fw-la ipsum_fw-la esse_fw-la respondisse_fw-la nâ—tabit_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la christus_fw-la filius_fw-la dei_fw-la vivi_fw-la &_o pro_fw-la eo_fw-la dominum_fw-la exorasse_fw-la ne_fw-la deficiat_fw-la fides_fw-la ejus_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v cap._n ut_fw-it debitus_fw-la §_o ultim_fw-la juncta_fw-la gloss_n in_o verb._n causis_fw-la de_fw-fr appellat_fw-la cap._n translationem_fw-la de_fw-fr officio_fw-la legatâ—_n bellarm._n l._n 4_o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n c._n â—_o see_v bellarm._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont._n &_o l._n â—_o de_fw-fr council_n authorit_fw-fr where_o he_o teach_v and_o with_o he_o the_o catholic_n doctor_n common_o that_o only_o his_o holiness_n be_v infallible_a in_o define_v or_o declare_v matter_n of_o faith_n and_o 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