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A50206 The first principles of New-England concerning the subject of baptisme & communion of churches : collected partly out of the printed books, but chiefly out of the original manuscripts of the first and chiefe fathers in the New-English churches : with the judgment of sundry learned divines of the congregational way in England, concerning the said questions : published for the benefit of those who are of the rising generation in New-England / by Increase Mather ... Mather, Increase, 1639-1723.; Mitchel, Jonathan, 1624-1668. 1675 (1675) Wing M1211; ESTC W35680 45,581 56

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