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A62252	Toleration with its principal objections fully confuted, or, An answer to a book intituled, Sions groans for her distressed, &c. offered to the Kings Majesty, Parliament, and people wherein is pretended to be proved by Scripture, reason, and authority of fifteen ancients, that equal protection under different perswasions is the undoubted right of Christian liberty, but, hereby confuted : wherein the power and proceedings of the Kings Majesty and the Church are vindicated / by H.S.	H. S. (Henry Savage), 1604?-1672.	1663 (1663)	Wing S765; ESTC R24513	70,771	96

TOLERATION WITH ITS Principal Objections Fully confuted OR AN ANSWER To a Book entituled Sions groans for her distressed c. offered to the Kings Majesty Parliament and people Wherein is pretended to be proved by Scripture Reason and Authority of fifteen Ancients That equal protection under different perswasions is the undoubted right of Christian Liberty BUT Hereby confuted wherein the power and proceedings of the Kings Majesty and the Church are vindicated By H. S. D. D. Chapl. to his Majesty in Ordinary 2 Pet. 1. 1 2 3. But there were false Prophets among the people as there shall be false Teachers among you by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of Jude 8. These filthy dreamers defile the flesh despise dominion and speak evil of dignities Jude 16. These are murmurers complainers Jude 19. These be they who separate themselves sensual having not the Spirit LONDON Printed for H. R. and are to be sold at the Sign of the Three Pigeons in St. Paul's Church-yard 1663. Imprimatur Geo. Stradling S. T. P. Rev. in Christo Pat. D. Gilb. Episc Lond. a Sac. domest Ex Aed Sab. 12 Feb. 1662. FOR Colonel R. ATKINS One of the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of GLOUCESTER SIR I Have perused the Pamphlet you left at my Lodging and according to your desire grounded upon the consideration of the advantages which seditious persons suck in things of this nature from the silence of the Orthodox given you my sense of it Which task if it prove satisfactory to any and particularly to render that Friend of yours and of your most accomplisht Lady's steddy who is yet balancing in her resolutions I shall put upon the account of favours done to SIR Your humble Servant H. S. THE CONTENTS Sect. 1. THe events of these times the same with those after the passion of Christ only those were meerly eventual these consequential Three Churches in three persons of one house The Golden Rule of our Saviour wrested by our Adversaries Fears and jealousies like those that caused the war couseless Sect. 2. Their Epistle dated the eighth day of the third moneth The vanity of such date evidenced in answer to three queries 1. What the moneths in Scripture were 2. By what names they were called 3. When they began And herein 1. What was the first moneth 2. When was the first day of that moneth What the Rabbies amongst these men understand by the first month Their affectation of singularity Sect. 3. How cheap the shedding of mens bloud was to them which now they would have prevented towards themselves They would have none but arbitrary government Of all they dislike Kingly most What is meant by the Harlot in the Apocalypse which they would have understood of the Pope only Simon Magus the Deceiver Those that work in his vertue and power Antichrists The Harlot like a Bird of prey The men of this generation compared to the Cast of Sacres that made the Eagle their quarry The Pope and they meet in the Antipodes The History of Stork Stubner and Muntzer Ring-leaders of the Fanaticks Their practises to deceive That they are Antichristian Their sacriledge and their pretext for it Sect. 4. The use of Musick in Churches Commanded in Scriture in every thing that tends to edification Musical Instruments whether wind or stringed and Chromatick Musick allowable not typical Those that are against the use of it under the New Testament would have it to be they know not what themselves And if any thing it is what we hold it to be Sect. 5. Vestments distinctions of persons serving and of services under the Gospel allowed by the Law of Moses and of Nature No Vestments but Vices reprehended in the Heathen in the New Testament The Druides sacrificed not only in white but under Oaks which by them were had in veneration and which the men of this generation seem to allow of in as much as upon all their Crowns and Scepters which they wore and bore they placed the Acorn instead of the Crosse a figure which the Devil cannot abide Of happy presage to us They confute themselves by condemning of us And in justifying themselves they justifie us a fortiori Nothing but order and decency in our Ceremonies Sect. 6. Bishops Timothy and Titus were Bishops so were the Angels of the seven Churches in the Apocalypse in the judgement of old Doctor Reynolds Doctor Usher and Grotius How the Bishops resemble the high Priests And the whole frame of Church-Government answers to the like order and distinction under the Old Testament A Scheme thereof drawn by Bishop Andrews The Ministers of the New Testament do succeed to Priests and Levites as the Lords day does to the Sahbath The Lords Prayer contains not only ancient forms in use among the Jews but also the very design of the Sacrifices under the Law The comparison made The Lords Prayer the first Liturgy The Jurisdiction of the Bishops proved 1. as to their power 2. as to the distribution of their power and both out of the New Testament Their right of sitting in Parliament asserted Sect. 7. Of Churches The lawfulnesse of them proved from the example of primitive christians in the New Testament 2. Their conveniency proved 1. In respect of their capacity for the Diocesse and Parishes 2. In respect of their scituation in relation to the Diocesse and Parishes 3. In respect of their scituation of East and West Christians anciently adored towards the East Of the Church at Richlieu in France whose Altar stands at the West-end Of Covent-garden Church in London 4. Convenient for the scituation of parts within themselves They are Naves inversae 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in them what some built with a single Crosse some with a double and why The mark in Ezekiel 9. 4. was the Crosse and that proved not only from the figure of the Letter Tau which was anciently a Crosse but also that in all probability it must be so though it be set a mark or mark a mark and no more in our Translation The necessity of Churches proved No stumbling-block to the Jews or Gentiles Sect. 8. How they slander the good Laws of the Kindome The same thing they impute to us is applicable to themselves The Harlot in the Apocalypse why so called The integral parts of Antichrist Their fury and hypocrisy parallel d by those in France English Scottizing c. Rebellion under pretence of Religion unwarrantable Sect. 9. Of Magistrates Their power is of God and how Religion the foundation of all Government proved by several arguments Answer to their arguments of receiving the Alcoran and becoming Papists in some cases A threefold book put into Magistrates Hands An errour in Government which is accidental makes not void his power Their second argument answered their third argument answered their fourth answered their fifth answered What power the Church hath to decree Rites and Ceremonies Their argument taken from the ceasing of the Cross of Christ

confess that they are something that is not ceremonial Their deceit they would have lye under the ambiguity of the word Type For 1. it is taken for a material print or impression made by nails or otherwise as John 20. 21. and such types they cannot be 2. For the sum of an Epistle or the like as Acts 23. 25. and such they cannot be 3. For a shadow or adumbration of a thing or person to come and this by their own confession or rather affirmation they are not for this were to make them ceremonies which they will have to be contradistinguished from types 4. For a form of doctrine Rom. 6. but Organs c. and Voices are not forms of doctrine 5. For an Image or Statue Acts 7. 43 and this they cannot be neither these being the work of Painters and Engravers 6. For examples to be feared 1 Cor. 10. 6. but these they cannot be there being no judgement in all the Scripture inflicted upon any that used singing or musical Instruments no nor threatned against them unless such as abused them to luxury 7. For a samplar to be followed Phil. 3. 17. and as it were a copy given to be taken out by others And such Types they are being proposed to us to be imitated under the Gospel and no other as has been proved by us and confessed by themselves Sect. 5. AS for Vestments the same may be said of these as of Musick That though under the Law they were typical of things to come under th● Gospel yet under the New Testament they are not so but meer distinctions of persons serving and of services to be performed which we learn not from the Law of Moses alone but from that of Nature too The Sacrificers among the Heathen had their Infulaes h. e. Sacerdotates vittas The Druides performed no facred services without the leaves of Oak and not only the Germans but the Greeks adorned their Altars with green leaves of Oak In the Rites performed to ●eres they were crowned with Oak in those to Apollo with Bayes in those to Hercules with Poplar in those to Bac●hus with Myrtle The Victims and Vessels were likewise crowned Sched de Dis Germ. c. 1. In all which was a decency intended agreeable to the work they were about It is very obvious how full the New Testament is of declamations against the abominable practices of the Heathen yet let these men tell me where in all the Epistles of the Apostles these or the like Ceremonies were reprehended I know some would have me say as Pliny does namely that the Druides sacrificed in white garments that they might thence infer our Surplices to be a Ceremony derived from Heathens and abused to superstition And was not the Oak abused by the Druides to superstition being had in so great veneration among them And yet our late Reformers gave order which was universally observed accordingly for the Acorn the fruit of the Oak to be set upon the top of their Maces and Crowns and that instead of the Cross which had never been abused by the Heathen who had it in detestation as a figure most unlike that which is best pleasing to him they worshipped h. ● the Devil Which thing so done by them was nevertheless of happy presage to us viz. That the tree which bore such fruit should like that in the Plains of Mamre serve for the shelter of our earthly Angel King Charles from the heat and fury of Rebellion which was then in the very Noon until the Cross reassumed its place again upon the top of his Crown So unlucky are contentious spirits many times that they confute themselves by going about to condemn others Oh but these men accounting themselves the only Saints and Servants of the most high God any thing they wear or do must be sanctified to them For to the pure all things are ture but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure And if so then they must prove that our Church consisteth of unbelievers that it teaches and practises the uncleanness and other abominati●ns of the Heathen so often noted by the Apostles yea our very worship of God to be unclean and abominable before they can conclude our Ceremonies to be unclean and unlawful But whilest we maintain the worship of the true God and give up our selves to be ordered by his Laws we are pure and consequently to us all things are pure Tit. 1. 15. a thing which cannot be said of them whilest they would have any error in doctrine or worship yea blasphemy it self to passe unpunished which is the whole drift of this their Sions groans Wherefore definant maledicere malefacta ne noscant sua Let them look into themselves and their own practises and they will find little reason to think themselves in Heaven much less to pull up the ladder after them as if none were worthy to follow St. Paul pleads not for this decency only but for order two 1 Cor. 14. which doubtless was used also among these Sacrificers And therefore as well for the expediency of the thing in it self as the avoiding of the imputation of rudeness and confusion wherewith the Grecians here were apt to load them the Apostle concludes the Chapter with this Canon Let all things be done decently and in order since therefore they can prove nothing but decency order and usefulness in such ceremonies as we use what they say against them must go for nothing and prevail as little with us as a Rationale would with them Which should I produce whereby to give an account of particularities it would not make me justly liable to the dicterium of Beza in his Epistle to the Prince of Conde put before his Translation of the New Testament cast upon those who as he saies collabentibus aedium fundamentis de instaurando fastigio laborarunt Sect. 6. AS for Bishops there are some we read of in the Scripture who had the appellation to be called Bishops but were not distinguished into a superiour order above others Others were both called so and distinguished into an order superiour unto others and these are the Bishops here meant by us Such were Timothy and Titus as we learn from the several Epistles written unto them by St. Paul Such were the seven Angels of the seven Churches of Asia in the Revelation in the judgement of Dr. Reynolds in his conference with Hart in the end of the third and the beginning of the fifth Division and in the judgement of the Archbishop of Armagh of the Original of Bishops and Metropolitans both printed together Those who by these Angels would have the Churches to be meant do manifestly contradict the Scripture For saies Christ there the Candlesticks are the Churches and the stars are the seven Angels of the Churches I wonder therefore saies Grotins what spirit of contradiction carries men away that they dare confound things which the Spirit of God so manifestly distinguisheth de Imp. sum not circa

secundum allegata probata for matter of fact but on his own head or some underhand information of some whom the party accused shall never see nor know as has been practised under the late Tyranny He were mad if he should Who would be contented that another mans Bowl should have a byass and his own have none at all Therefore Arist Rhet. 1. 1. sayes That it is most convenient that all things be determined by Laws and that as few things as may be be left to the power of the Judges And that 1. Because it is easier to find one and a few then many that are prudent enough to give Laws or determine Causes 2. Because Laws are made upon mature deliberation going before their Sanction but Sentences are given on a sudden which renders it difficult for the Judges to do right to every man 3. Because which is the weightiest of all reasons the judgement of a Law-giver is not of singularities and present matters but of things future and universal but a concional Auditor and Judge are to determine of present and definite things where oftentimes either love or hatred or private commodity comes in in so much that they cannot sufficiently look into the merit of the cause but either private interest or trouble will darken their judgement But there is no good Body of Laws wherein there is not a Lex Talionis h. e. a provision made that any man whatsoever he be may have his remedy against him that has done him wrong though it were his own Master that did it for otherwise a tyranny would be introduced And on the other side that a man may make or expect a retribu●ion for a favour done otherwise ingratitude would take place Both which are grounded upon this namely Whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you the same do ye also unto them And the same measure ye meet shall be measured to you again Matth. 7. 20 So sacred a thing was gratitude that the Heathen as Aristotle testifies Eth. 5. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 put the Temple of the Graces in the way that a man cannot walk the street but he must stumble upon the duty And the Civil Law puts it in the sole power of the Parent to disinherit his Son for the contrary whose examination is to be rescinded and he deprived of his undeserved liberty Cod. 8. c. 50. And though our Laws punish not unthankfulness to the Fathers of our flesh the Fathers of our spirits the Fathers of our fortunes for indeed it being comprehensive of all wickednesse no one punishment is enough for it yet neverthelesse the Temple of the Graces is not shut against these the Law is open to these with us and therefore that Royal Law is so far observed But yet in as much as the Law is an universal precept as one calls it in the universality whereof all particular Cases cannot be comprehended therefore something of necessity must be left to the prudence of the Judge to determine as he thinks meet provided it be not against the Law which is immutable In which case why should any man prejudge his Judge who is sworn to observe this Royal Law Indeed should he do so then what they seem to threaten by the Objection here made they might have just cause of fear for they do as good as say Let them look to it for trump may turn up on our side again which if it does the same rigour which they use to us shall we use towards them a Resolution not only contrary to this Royal Law but to Christs commandment under the Gospel Mátth 5. 39. Resist not evil but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek turn to him the other also But to answer for them as much as possibly can be said in favour of them They may say that they give this as a Rule which in common prudence a man would observe not but that they would make demonstration of meekness and lenity should the disposal of affairs fall into their hands But I answer that this is more then they can promise for so said Parmenio to Alexander when Darius offered him ten thousand talents for the redemption of Prisoners with all the Land he had on this side Euphrates and one of his Daughters for a wife to boot I would take it if I were Alexander and so would I said Alexander if I were Parmenio Plut. in vita Alex. Private persons know not what themselves would be should they come to sit at the Helm of Government Then things that make for the interest of themselves or their Partisans may seem convenient which were before abominable in their eyes One did not know that he should account the Universities the only remaining glory of the Nation till he came to be head of one of the fairest Colledges in the Enigmatical pillars were then no longer Mysteries of iniquity Another would have Christ. Church passe for a Collegiate Dean and Prebends till he found Leases to be invalid without the prophane Title of Cathedral A third and he guilty of the Magnum latro●inium of all was at first for a popular Government till he had gotten upon the back of the populasse which he perswaded that it could not mannage its liberty without a Rider And then what then As a reward of their ingratitudes to the King the Father of his Country Non equitem dorso nec fraenam depulit ●re Sect. 15. ANother-Argument is That as it is not any wayes lawful from the Word of God for Christian Magistrates in the dayes of the Gospel to destroy and root out the contrary minded in religious matters though Idolaters so such proceedings may sometimes prove inconsistent with the very being of Nations for suppose any Nation were wholly heathenish Idolaters and the Word of God coming in a-amongst them should convert the chief Magistrate and one twentieth part of the Nation more must he then with that twentieth part destroy all the other nineteen if they will not be converted but continue in their heathenish Idolatry It cannot possibly be supposed to be warrantable And this Reason holds good against the rooting up and destroying of Hereticks out of the world because an excommunicated person is as a Heathen or Infidel Matth. 18. 17. Besides the Lord calls some at the third some at the sixth some at the ninth hour others at the eleventh He therefore that destroyes any one though an Idolater c. or hinders his conversion and so brings eternal losse to him Answ That a Magistrate providing for the establishment of a Commonwealth ought to temper his severity with Christian prudence Now it were no prudence at all for him and his twentieth part to wage war with the other nineteen for a war this were like to beget in as much as instead of establishing this would ruine himsulf and his Commonwealth with Religion and all Suppose then that he had nineteen parts on his side and only the twentieth part remained