Selected quad for the lemma: judgement_n
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A03590
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Of the lavves of ecclesiasticall politie eight bookes. By Richard Hooker.; Ecclesiastical polity. Books 1-4
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Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Spenser, John, 1559-1614.
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STC 13713; ESTC S120914
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be_v very_o injurious_a the_o purpose_n of_o his_o hart_n be_v religious_a and_o godly_a 17._o the_o act_n most_o worthy_a of_o honour_n and_o renown_n neither_o can_v nathan_n choose_v but_o admire_v his_o virtuous_a intent_n exhort_v he_o to_o go_v forward_o and_o beseech_v god_n to_o prosper_v he_o therein_o but_o god_n see_v the_o endless_a trouble_n which_o david_n shall_v be_v subject_a unto_o during_o the_o whole_a time_n of_o his_o regiment_n and_o therefore_o give_v charge_n to_o differre_fw-la so_o good_a a_o work_n till_o the_o day_n of_o tranquillity_n and_o peace_n wherein_o it_o may_v without_o interruption_n be_v perform_v david_n suppose_a that_o it_o can_v not_o stand_v with_o the_o duty_n which_o he_o owe_v unto_o god_n to_o set_v himself_o in_o a_o house_n of_o cedar_n tree_n and_o to_o behold_v the_o ark_n of_o the_o lord_n covenant_n unsettle_a this_o opinion_n the_o lord_n abate_v by_o cause_v nathan_n to_o show_v he_o plain_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v no_o more_o impute_v unto_o he_o for_o a_o fault_n than_o it_o have_v be_v unto_o the_o judge_n of_o israel_n before_o he_o his_o case_n be_v the_o same_o which_o they_o be_v their_o time_n not_o more_o unquiet_a than_o he_o nor_o more_o unfit_a for_o such_o a_o action_n wherefore_o concern_v the_o force_n of_o negative_a argument_n so_o take_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n as_o by_o we_o they_o be_v deny_v facereâ—t_fw-la there_o be_v in_o all_o this_o less_o than_o nothing_o and_o touch_v that_o which_o unto_o this_o purpose_n be_v borrow_v from_o the_o controversy_n sometime_o handle_v between_o m._n harding_n and_o the_o worthy_a divine_a that_o christendom_n have_v breed_v for_o the_o space_n of_o some_o hundred_o of_o year_n who_o be_v bring_v up_o together_o in_o one_o university_n it_o fall_v out_o in_o they_o which_o be_v speak_v of_o two_o other_o they_o learned_a in_o the_o same_o that_o which_o in_o contrary_a camp_n they_o do_v practice_v of_o these_o two_o the_o one_o 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thus_o stay_v himself_o as_o we_o do_v by_o the_o negative_a hoc_fw-la neque_fw-la prophetae_fw-la praedicaverunt_fw-la néque_fw-la dominus_fw-la docuit_fw-la néque_fw-la apostoli_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la 1â—_n this_o thing_n neither_o do_v the_o prophet_n publish_v nor_o our_o lord_n teach_v nor_o the_o apostle_n deliver_v by_o a_o like_a negative_a chrysostome_n say_v this_o tree_n neither_o paul_n plant_v 3._o nor_o apollo_n water_v nor_o god_n increase_v in_o like_a sort_n leo_n say_v what_o need_v it_o to_o believe_v that_o thing_n that_o neither_o the_o law_n have_v teach_v nor_o the_o prophet_n have_v speak_v 12_o nor_o the_o gospel_n have_v preach_v nor_o the_o apostle_n have_v deliver_v and_o again_o how_o be_v the_o new_a device_n bring_v in_o that_o our_o father_n never_o know_v s._n augustine_n have_v reekon_v up_o a_o great_a number_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n by_o a_o general_a negative_a say_v thus_o in_o all_o this_o order_n of_o succession_n of_o bishop_n 32._o there_o be_v not_o one_o bishop_n find_v that_o be_v a_o donatist_n saint_n gregory_n be_v himself_o a_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o write_v against_o the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n say_v thus_o none_o of_o all_o my_o predecessor_n ever_o consent_v to_o use_v this_o ungodly_a title_n no_o bishop_n of_o rome_n ever_o take_v upon_o he_o this_o name_n of_o singularity_n by_o such_o negative_n m._n harding_n we_o reprove_v the_o vanity_n and_o novelty_n of_o your_o religion_n we_o tell_v you_o none_o of_o the_o catholic_a ancient_n learned_a father_n either_o greek_a or_o latin_a ever_o use_v either_o your_o private_a mass_n or_o your_o half_a communion_n or_o your_o barbarous_a unknown_a prayer_n paul_n never_o plant_v they_o apollo_n never_o water_v they_o god_n never_o increase_v they_o they_o be_v of_o yourselves_o they_o be_v not_o of_o god_n in_o all_o this_o there_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n which_o any_o way_n cross_v us._n for_o concern_v argument_n negative_a even_o 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notwithstanding_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v alteration_n of_o law_n to_o be_v sometime_o a_o thing_n necessary_a as_o when_o they_o be_v unnatural_a or_o impious_a or_o otherwise_o hurtful_a unto_o the_o public_a community_n of_o man_n and_o against_o that_o good_a for_o which_o human_a society_n be_v institute_v when_o the_o apostle_n of_o our_o lord_n &_o saviour_n be_v ordain_v to_o alter_v the_o law_n of_o heathenish_a religion_n receive_v throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n choose_v i_o grant_v they_o be_v paul_n except_v the_o rest_n ignorant_a poor_a simple_a unschooled_a altogether_o and_o unlettered_a man_n howbeit_o extraordinarilie_o endue_v with_o ghostly_a wisdom_n from_o above_o before_o they_o ever_o undertake_v this_o enterprise_n yea_o their_o authority_n confirm_v by_o miracle_n to_o the_o end_n it_o may_v plain_o appear_v that_o they_o be_v the_o lord_n ambassador_n unto_o who_o sovereign_a power_n for_o all_o flesh_n to_o stoop_v for_o all_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o 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they_o neither_o sentence_n of_o man_n ground_v upon_o such_o manifest_a and_o clear_a proof_n that_o they_o in_o who_o hand_n it_o be_v to_o alter_v they_o may_v likewise_o infallible_o even_o in_o hart_n &_o conscience_n judge_v they_o so_o upon_o necessity_n to_o urge_v alteration_n be_v to_o trouble_v and_o disturb_v without_o necessity_n as_o for_o arbitrary_a alteration_n when_o law_n in_o themselves_o not_o simple_o bad_a or_o unmeet_a be_v change_v for_o better_a and_o more_o expedient_a if_o the_o benefit_n of_o that_o which_o be_v new_o better_a devise_v be_v but_o small_a since_o the_o custom_n of_o easiness_n to_o alter_v and_o change_n be_v so_o evil_a no_o doubt_n but_o to_o bear_v a_o tolerable_a sore_n be_v better_a than_o to_o venture_v on_o a_o dangerous_a remedy_n which_o be_v general_o think_v upon_o as_o a_o matter_n that_o touch_v near_o their_o whole_a enterprise_n whereas_o change_n be_v notwithstanding_o conclude_v necessary_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o great_a 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very_a decree_n of_o our_o father_n which_o be_v not_o only_o set_v down_o by_o agreement_n of_o general_a counsel_n but_o have_v according_o be_v put_v in_o ure_n and_o so_o continue_v in_o use_n till_o that_o very_a time_n present_a true_a it_o be_v that_o neither_o counsel_n nor_o custom_n be_v they_o never_o so_o ancient_a and_o so_o general_a can_v let_v the_o church_n from_o take_v away_o that_o thing_n which_o be_v hurtful_a to_o be_v retain_v where_o thing_n have_v be_v institute_v which_o be_v convenient_a and_o good_a at_o the_o first_o do_v afterward_o in_o process_n of_o time_n wax_v otherwise_o we_o make_v no_o doubt_n but_o they_o may_v be_v alter_v â—0_n yea_o though_o counsel_n or_o custom_n general_a have_v receive_v they_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v but_o a_o needle_n kind_a of_o opposition_n which_o they_o make_v who_o thus_o dispute_n if_o in_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o decree_n of_o our_o forefather_n then_o how_o can_v these_o thing_n at_o any_o time_n be_v vary_v which_o heretofore_o have_v be_v once_o ordain_v in_o such_o sort_n whereto_o we_o say_v that_o thing_n so_o ordain_v be_v to_o be_v keep_v howbeit_o not_o necessary_o any_o long_o then_o till_o there_o grow_v some_o urgent_a cause_n to_o ordain_v the_o contrary_n for_o there_o be_v not_o any_o positive_a law_n of_o man_n whether_o it_o be_v general_a or_o particular_a receive_v by_o formal_a express_a consent_n as_o in_o counsel_n or_o by_o secret_a approbation_n as_o in_o custom_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v but_o the_o same_o may_v be_v take_v away_o it_o occasion_n serve_v even_o as_o we_o all_o know_v that_o many_o thing_n general_o keep_v heretofore_o 11â—_n be_v now_o in_o like_a sort_n general_o unkept_a and_o abolish_v every_o where_o notwithstanding_o