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A80511 The Anabaptist washt and washt, and shrunk in the washing: or, A scholasticall discussion of the much-agitated controversie concerning infant-baptism; occasiond by a publike disputation, before a great assembly of ministers, and other persons of worth, in the Church of Newport-Pagnall, betwixt Mr Gibs minister there, and the author, Rich. Carpenter, Independent. Wherin also, the author occasionally, declares his judgement concerning the Papists; and afterwards, concerning Episcopacy. Carpenter, Richard, d. 1670? 1653 (1653) Wing C618; Thomason E1484_1; ESTC R208758 176,188 502

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is intimated that such Care puls the caring Person with adhibition of great force divers waies at the same time and that it divided St Pauls Heart amongst many Churches This cutting and dividing Care stops the way to the divisions Cuttings of Schism the Greek Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Schism coming from 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I Isid Hispalensis in Etym cut Whence Isidor Scisma à Scissura Animorum nomen accepit Scism is a Cutter and cut it's Name from the Scissure or Cutting of Mindes CHAP. LXXXXIV NOthing is more often repeated in the royall Spouse-Treasures of Antiquity than Pastoralis Vigilantia Pastorall Vigilancy Yea the staffe of the Pastorall Dignity belonging to Bishops had frō of old the shape and fashion of a Shepheard's Hook to designe their Authority by the which they were designed for the pulling of the diseased Sheep to them And though we reade of St Peter Chronicon Alexandrinum Bishop of Alexandria a Successour to St Marke that he would never sit in St Mark 's Chaire but humbly sate al his days on the Footstooll even untill after his death the devout people of Alexandria having dressed adorned his un●ould Body with the Pontificall Habit set it above the Footstool in the Pontificall Chaire yet his Pastorall Watching unto which the high place in the Chair directed him was eminent even from the Footstool though the Footstool was not preeminent This Care and Vigilancy from on high hath two extreames as all vertues have the one growing from excesse and the other from defect The excesse looks from on high too highly and seeks highly caringly and pragmatically the temporall and unjust profit of the Bishop being unjust in it selfe or unjust because unjustly sought not the just and spirituall profit of the people for which profit of the People the Bishop is a Bishop Wherefore the Apostle St Peter prosecuting his Matter saith not for 1 Pet. 5. V. 2 3 4. filthy lucre but of a ready Minde Neither as being Lords over God's Heritage but being examples to the flock And when the chiefe Shepherd shall appeare ye shall receive a Crown of Glory that fadeth not away For our lording it the Vulgar taketh dominantes Versio Vulgata Text. Graec. exercising soveraignty the Originall interweaveth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Mastering it over God's Heritage The Text wils and commands that the Mastership or Soveraignty and the Profit thence arising be not the chiefe Things which the Over-lookers actively look after in their looking over or overlooking A notorious Example of this Excesse we have in Paulus Samosatenus Euseb Eccl. Hist lib. 7. cap. 26. who affected secular Honours piliaged the People moved from place to place with expressions of Luciferain Pride and Pomp and commanded that he should be called an Angell and that Psalms should be sung in the Praise not of Christ but of him Hither I may throw with scorn the Bishops that in their Processions were carried in Chaires upon the backs of the Cleargy which a grave Council was troubled to forbid by a Concil Bracarens 3. Can. 5. Canon The Defect is a Dormouse-Life and a negligent giving of the Bridle of Government by the which the Bishop permits all things to the people This was the fault of Ars●cius who succeeding to St John Chrysostom in the Arch Bishoprick of Constantinople was supinely negligent gave broad way to the Monstrous Vanities of the Empresse Eudoxia and lived as if he had been dead while he lived And therefore Nicephorus bewailing the Matter elegantly Niceph. Eccle. Hist l. 13. cap. 28 cals him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an old and unprofitable stump stock or Blockhead In the middle Point betwixt these two sits the Godly wise and learned Bishop or Overseer on a high Seat from which there is lesse Deceptio Visûs deception of his Sight and as more overseeing so lesse Oversight and from which he draws more Power and splendour which beget fear awe and veneration and therefore more ability to correct and amend the Things that in his Overseeing he sees to be against or under the Law For Although this reverentiall fear and awe in the People should be godly and therefore generated of a like Cause namely Godlinesse in the Bishop Yet whereas the Bishop in the consequents of his overseeing deals more with ungodly than with godly Persons the ungodly being the more numerous the just Acts of his Godlinesse must be freed from contempt and maintained by Power and Splendour or their Influence upon the ungodly will be small and contemptible Splendour without Power will be vain idle and a meer splendid shew And a Beggar or other poor Man having Power and wanting Splendour will be ridicuously powerfull and his Power will prove a poor and begging Power CHAP. LXXXXV THAT Episcopacy is de Jure divino of divine Right and consequently that Bishops were instituted by Christ himselfe and that the Apostles were Bishops I beleeve I hope with divine Faith For When St Hierom let fall S. Hieron in c. 1 ad Tit●● from his Pen that by common consent and Custome Bishops were first preferred before Presbyters he wrote though his words may seem to resist this Interpretation of the Custom and Common Consent which supposed the divine Ordinance and was radicated and grounded upon it and of Prelation not in it selfe as Nature hath preferred Gold in it selfe before other Metals but with respect to publike and Universall knowleage and acceptation Because the same St Hierom contends Idem ep ad Heliodorum ● ep ad Marcellam the Bishop to sit above the Presbyter and to be empowred before him tum potestate Ordinis tum potestate Jurisdictionis by the Power of order by the power of Jurisdiction Yea St Hierom defineth as a Truth of God Ubi non est Sacerdos Idem in Dialago advers Luciferian non est Ecclesi● Where there is no Priest there is no Church And most certainly he understands by a Priest here a Bishop for the word Sacerdos was applied to both and he speaks of the Priest qui potestatem habet Ordinandi who hath Power to give Ordination which even in the Judgement of St Hierom though Vide ejusdē Epistolam ad Euagrium a Presby●er a meer Priest or Presbyter hath not but a Bishop only Add that the Church of God being the Spouse of Christ is Acies Ordinata A well-ordered Army Cant. 6. 10. Edit vulg S. Ignat. in Epist ad Trallianos● Idem inculcat in Epist ad Smyrn●●ses which is visible and uncapable of a generall Parity And that St Ignatius the third Bishop of Antioch from St Peter admonishes the Presbyters or Priests accordingly Presbyteri subjecti estote Episcopo O ye Presbyters be ye subject to your Bishop In good deed the Bishops did at the first sweetly and humbly consort and companion with the Presbyters as their Fellow-labourers untill the Vide S. Hieron in c. 1.