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A26860 An answer to Mr. Dodwell and Dr. Sherlocke, confuting an universal humane church-supremacy aristocratical and monarchical, as church-tyranny and popery : and defending Dr. Isaac Barrow's treatise against it by Richard Baxter ; preparatory to a fuller treatise against such an universal soveraignty as contrary to reason, Christianity, the Protestant profession, and the Church of England, though the corrupters usurp that title. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1682 (1682) Wing B1184; ESTC R16768 131,071 189

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he_o a_o damnable_a schismatic_n 14._o and_o hereby_o there_o be_v as_o many_o hundred_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n make_v as_o there_o be_v thing_n lawful_a which_o a_o prelate_n will_v command_v for_o though_o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v yet_o all_o must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o duty_n which_o must_v be_v do_v as_o such_o e._n g._n we_o can_v love_v god_n worship_v he_o hear_v and_o read_v his_o word_n etc._n etc._n as_o by_o divine_a obedience_n unless_o we_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v our_o duty_n by_o a_o divine_a command_n therefore_o when_o as_o mr._n dodwell_n dr._n saywell_n and_o such_o other_o tell_v we_o what_o damn_v schism_n it_o be_v to_o disobey_v such_o command_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o to_o suffer_v ourselves_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a it_o plain_o include_v that_o it_o be_v as_o damn_v a_o sin_n to_o take_v any_o lawful_a thing_n to_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a whatever_o the_o bishop_n shall_v command_v and_o so_o to_o how_o many_o hundred_o indifferent_a thing_n may_v the_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v extend_v while_o it_o be_v make_v ordinary_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o do_v they_o and_o therefore_o to_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v lawful_a 15_o by_o this_o he_o confound_v communion_n and_o obedience_n i_o may_v have_v communion_n with_o many_o bishop_n who_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o obey_v but_o i_o can_v hinder_v they_o from_o excommunicate_v i_o without_o obey_v they_o 16._o yea_o he_o make_v communion_n and_o salvation_n to_o lie_v not_o only_o on_o such_o obedience_n but_o on_o such_o perfection_n of_o obedience_n as_o reach_v to_o every_o lawful_a indifferent_a thing_n whereas_o god_n himself_o under_o the_o gospel_n accept_v of_o sincerity_n instead_o of_o perfection_n which_o the_o law_n require_v of_o perfect_a man_n 17._o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o make_v bishop_n absolute_a lord_n of_o king_n and_o state_n and_o all_o 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bishop_n and_o presbyter_n have_v do_v which_o grotius_n also_o repeat_v jonan_n antiochenus_fw-la magnify_v by_o socrates_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 3._o when_o at_o antioch_n there_o be_v two_o church_n with_o two_o bishop_n meletius_n and_o paulinus_n stick_v to_o meletius_n till_o he_o die_v and_o after_o for_o three_o year_n will_v communicate_v with_o neither_o do_v he_o by_o this_o become_v a_o damn_a schismatic_a or_o lose_v his_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n 22._o many_o of_o old_a be_v choose_v for_o bishop_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v the_o case_n of_o ambrose_n nectarius_n synesius_n etc._n etc._n be_v know_v if_o the_o church_n think_v they_o all_o to_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o damnation_n for_o want_v of_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o they_o will_v choose_v they_o to_o be_v their_o bishop_n though_o it_o be_v irregular_a indeed_o it_o be_v true_a that_o grotius_n say_v ibid._n in_o fine_a that_o chrysostom_n nazianzenes_n and_o other_o case_n tell_v 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clergy_n will_v but_o forbid_v they_o see_v i_o beseech_v you_o worthy_a countryman_n what_o sort_n of_o man_n and_o doctrine_n you_o have_v to_o do_v with_o §_o 52._o and_o why_o do_v the_o man_n talk_v only_o against_o different_a practice_n do_v he_o not_o know_v that_o government_n command_v duty_n as_o well_o as_o forbid_v the_o contrary_a be_v not_o omission_n against_o government_n as_o well_o as_o commission_n if_o the_o king_n command_v tax_n military_a service_n etc._n etc._n may_v we_o disobey_v and_o call_v it_o passive_a obedience_n what_o if_o the_o bishop_n only_o forbid_v we_o to_o confess_v christ_n to_o come_v to_o church_n to_o pray_v to_o give_v alm_n to_o do_v any_o good_a may_v we_o forbear_v sobeit_v we_o do_v not_o the_o contrary_a doubtless_o if_o god_n word_n and_o authority_n may_v not_o be_v plead_v for_o any_o duty_n which_o god_n command_v and_o the_o prelate_n forbid_v neither_o may_v it_o be_v plead_v for_o the_o omission_n of_o any_o villainy_n 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