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A34032 A modest and true account of the chief points in controversie between the Roman Catholics and the Protestants together with some considerations upon the sermons of a divine of the Church of England / by N.C. Nary, Cornelius, 1660-1738.; Colson, Nicholas. 1696 (1696) Wing C5422; ESTC R35598 162,211 316

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one_o substance_n shall_v be_v change_v into_o a_o other_o since_o all_o generation_n and_o corruption_n be_v thus_o perform_v and_o even_o daily_a experience_n teach_v we_o that_o the_o meat_n on_o which_o we_o feed_v do_v not_o nourish_v we_o but_o in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v change_v into_o the_o substance_n of_o our_o flesh_n and_o to_o let_v the_o world_n know_v it_o be_v not_o the_o roman_a catholic_o alone_o who_o see_v the_o absurdity_n of_o this_o pretence_n i_o will_v transcribe_v the_o word_n of_o a_o ingenious_a soci●tan_n upon_o this_o subject_a who_o sure_o be_v no_o more_o a_o friend_n to_o the_o roman_a catholic_o than_o to_o the_o protestant_n they_o be_v take_v out_o of_o a_o book_n entitle_v consideration_n on_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o trinity_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 21._o he_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o sarum_n take_v out_o of_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o divinity_n and_o death_n of_o christ_n pag._n 94._o which_o be_v these_o transubstantiation_n must_v not_o be_v a_o mystery_n because_o there_o be_v against_o it_o the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n in_o a_o object_n of_o sense_n for_o sense_n plain_o represent_v to_o we_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o be_v still_o the_o same_o that_o they_o be_v before_o the_o consecration_n and_o thus_o he_o speak_v his_o own_o thought_n of_o they_o this_o be_v say_v he_o every_o way_n faulty_a for_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v by_o the_o papist_n that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n have_v receive_v any_o the_o least_o change_n in_o what_o be_v a_o object_n of_o sense_n the_o papist_n follow_v the_o philosophy_n of_o aristotle_n distinguish_v in_o body_n these_o two_o thing_n the_o accident_n such_o as_o the_o quantity_n figure_n colour_n smell_v taste_n and_o such_o like_a which_o be_v object_n of_o our_o sense_n and_o the_o substance_n which_o bear_v and_o be_v clothe_v as_o it_o be_v with_o these_o visible_a and_o sensible_a accident_n but_o be_v itself_o invisible_a and_o 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