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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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collins_n and_o the_o friend_n of_o his_o judgement_n they_o be_v godly_a sober_a orthodox_n divine_v shall_v be_v satisfy_v with_o this_o difference_n i_o have_v only_o hint_v at_o in_o short_a for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v there_o be_v nothing_o more_o clear_a and_o easy_a to_o be_v make_v out_o from_o holy_a scripture_n be_v not_o man_n of_o his_o judgement_n too_o much_o learn_v with_o brownism_n destroy_v that_o which_o our_o fir●_n reformer_n have_v plant_v i_o must_v confess_v it_o be_v nothing_o become_v my_o call_n and_o ability_n to_o challenge_v any_o learned_a reverend_a man_n yet_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o through_o the_o assistance_n of_o god_n grace_n to_o maintain_v this_o difference_n i_o have_v in_o short_a lay_v down_o against_o all_o the_o contradiction_n of_o sober_a orthodox_n man_n provide_v they_o will_v dispute_v it_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o what_o may_v be_v clear_o and_o rational_o deduct_v thence_o next_o mr._n collins_n be_v please_v to_o put_v my_o proposition_n into_o form_n pag._n 34._o those_o to_o who_o the_o absolute_a promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n belong_v to_o those_o the_o whole_a administration_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o so_o the_o seal_v belong_v but_o to_o the_o unregenerate_a in_o the_o church_n and_o of_o year_n the_o promise_n belong_v ergo._n he_o say_v let_v but_o belong_v in_o each_o proposition_n be_v understand_v in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o the_o answer_n be_v easy_a and_o the_o argument_n weak_a etc._n etc._n i_o will_v yield_v he_o that_o which_o he_o desire_v answ_n and_o take_v it_o in_o that_o sense_n which_o be_v most_o large_a namely_o that_o the_o promise_n of_o first_o grace_n belong_v to_o the_o unregenerate_a in_o the_o church_n than_o he_o deny_v the_o major_a and_o say_v that_o by_o this_o argument_n heathen_n may_v come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n i_o say_v no_o unless_o mr._n collins_n can_v prove_v that_o the_o heathen_a be_v as_o much_o object_n of_o the_o 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