on_o both_o side_n and_o yet_o these_o and_o many_o such_o thing_n be_v defend_v by_o some_o of_o the_o father_n 2._o we_o confess_v that_o the_o father_n be_v patron_n of_o tradition_n of_o such_o tradition_n as_o we_o allow_v in_o the_o 4._o the_o sect._n 1_o diâ—is_fw-la 4._o state_v of_o the_o question_n and_o not_o of_o popish_a tradition_n for_o all_o our_o writer_n have_v dispute_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n against_o unwritten_a doctrinal_a tradition_n learned_a whitaker_n shall_v answer_v for_o himself_o and_o for_o all_o the_o rest_n 1â—_n rest_n conâ—edimus_fw-la defensas_fw-la esse_fw-la traditiones_fw-la à _fw-la patribâ—â—_n sed_fw-la â—â—_o modo_fw-la quoth_v dictume_v at_o quod_fw-la aiâ—_n patres_fw-la non_fw-la oppugnare_fw-la illud_fw-la falâ—um_fw-la est_fw-la whâ—â—akeâ—_n controver_n 1._o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la del_fw-it non_fw-la scâ—â—pto_fw-la q._n 6._o c._n 1â—_n we_o confess_v that_o the_o father_n defend_v tradition_n but_o they_o be_v such_o 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not_o subtract_v 3._o subtract_v loquor_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o scripture_n &_o it_o a_o copiose_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la oportet_fw-la deum_fw-la iterum_fw-la loqui_fw-la nobis_fw-la aliquod_fw-la necessarium_fw-la 〈◊〉_d habeantur_fw-la aâ—ton_n part_n â—_o 3._o tiâ—_n 1â—_n c._n 3._o god_n speak_v in_o the_o scripture_n say_v antoninus_n and_o speak_v so_o copious_o that_o he_o need_v not_o speak_v again_o unto_o we_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a see_v all_o such_o thing_n be_v in_o the_o scripture_n thus_o god_n have_v make_v the_o 5._o the_o joh._n 1._o 5._o light_a tâ—_n shine_v in_o darkness_n and_o how_o can_v the_o jesuite_n reconcile_v himself_o unto_o these_o man_n who_o deny_v that_o which_o they_o affirm_v 2._o to_o all_o the_o outlandish_a doctor_n who_o prefer_v himself_o &_o all_o his_o countryman_n before_o all_o other_o writer_n of_o what_o country_n soever_o that_o they_o be_v partaker_n of_o that_o benign_a and_o bless_a influence_n which_o it_o please_v the_o heaven_n to_o distil_v into_o the_o irish_a disposition_n this_o be_v good_a divinity_n the_o heaven_n distil_v this_o influence_n of_o grace_n the_o outlandish_a doctor_n be_v behold_v unto_o he_o for_o his_o good_a opinion_n of_o they_o in_o that_o ireland_n or_o the_o irish_a disposition_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o this_o influence_n before_o all_o other_o country_n and_o countryman_n whatsoever_o this_o be_v to_o make_v all_o other_o place_n and_o person_n like_o 21._o like_o â—_o sam._n 1_o 21._o the_o mountain_n of_o gilboa_n upon_o which_o there_o fall_v neither_o dew_n nor_o rain_n and_o only_a ireland_n to_o be_v like_o the_o 1â—3_n reply_v pag._n 112._o 1â—3_n hill_n of_o â—_o of_o psal_n 133._o â—_o hermon_n the_o dew_n whereof_o water_v other_o hill_n and_o how_o shall_v we_o excuse_v he_o in_o these_o thing_n 1_o be_v please_v to_o remember_v that_o he_o leave_v his_o native_a soil_n and_o wenâ—_n over_o sea_n to_o write_v this_o book_n by_o mean_n whereof_o he_o 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because_o they_o be_v all_o one_o with_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v express_o write_v as_o for_o example_n whether_o children_n shall_v be_v baptize_v or_o no_o or_o whether_o the_o baptise_a by_o heretic_n shall_v be_v rebaptise_v or_o no_o we_o read_v no_o express_a commandment_n nor_o evident_a practice_n either_o way_n yet_o by_o sound_a consequence_n these_o point_n may_v be_v determine_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o this_o in_o this_o testimony_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v against_o the_o donatist_n 14â—_n reply_v pag._n 14â—_n the_o three_o be_v against_o the_o nonconformist_n casul_n nonconformist_n aug_n epist_n â—â—_o ad_fw-la casul_n in_o thâ—se_a thing_n whereof_o the_o scripture_n have_v deliveâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n people_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o our_o aâ—â—â—estâ—râ—_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v for_o a_o law_n in_o this_o he_o dispute_v of_o the_o rite_n custom_n or_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n and_o special_o of_o the_o saturdaye_n fast_n concern_v which_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n â—e_n give_v this_o advice_n let_v the_o â—aith_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n â—â—_o one_o although_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n be_v â—â—â—nded_v upon_o with_o diverse_a observation_n by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n which_o be_v true_a in_o the_o faith_n be_v â—â—_o way_n 〈◊〉_d here_o he_o distinguish_v these_o observation_n of_o the_o church_n from_o â—â—th_n â—â—ith_n be_v one_o they_o be_v diverse_a they_o be_v not_o of_o faith_n but_o attend_v upon_o faith_n so_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v hold_v for_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o not_o for_o the_o law_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v of_o divine_a â—ight_n universal_a and_o bind_v all_o but_o as_o the_o law_n of_o man_n which_o be_v but_o of_o humane_a right_n particular_a to_o some_o place_n like_o the_o law_n of_o gâ—â—all_n kind_n and_o bind_v not_o all_o like_a the_o by-lâ—wes_a of_o a_o corporation_n the_o four_o testimony_n which_o he_o cit_v out_o of_o augustine_n i_o find_v it_o in_o his_o 118._o epistle_n and_o it_o be_v 6._o be_v sect_n 2._o diu._n 6._o former_o answer_v 1_o answer_v aug_n ad_fw-la inquisit_a laâ—â—aâ—_n l._n 1._o c._n 1_o all_o those_o thing_n which_o we_o hold_v without_o writing_n only_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v commend_v and_o ordain_v either_o by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o or_o by_o general_a counsel_n all_o such_o thing_n be_v not_o doctrinal_a but_o ritual_a tradition_n not_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o order_n and_o constitution_n for_o the_o church_n this_o appear_v both_o by_o the_o word_n allege_v and_o by_o the_o subsequent_a word_n in_o the_o same_o epistle_n we_o see_v in_o the_o word_n allege_v s._n augustine_n can_v well_o tell_v upon_o who_o to_o father_n such_o thing_n but_o he_o leave_v it_o doubtful_a it_o may_v be_v they_o be_v from_o the_o apostle_n and_o it_o may_v be_v they_o be_v ordain_v first_o of_o all_o by_o general_a coâ—â—â—lls_n but_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v elder_a than_o the_o elder_a council_n the_o jesuite_n himself_o tell_v we_o out_o of_o aâ—hanasius_n 140._o aâ—hanasius_n pag._n 140._o it_o be_v not_o nowadays_o that_o our_o faith_n receive_v its_o beginning_n but_o it_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o lord_n himself_o and_o athanasius_n himself_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o general_a council_n that_o of_o gerson_n iâ—_n most_o câ—rtaine_a occides_fw-la câ—rtaine_a nec_fw-la papa_n neâ—_n generale_fw-mi concilium_fw-la potest_fw-la facere_fw-la aliquid_fw-la esse_fw-la de_fw-la side_n quod_fw-la antè_fw-la non_fw-la â—uâ—t_fw-la gerson_n part_v 1_o de_fw-mi err_v cirâ—a_fw-la precept_n non_fw-la occides_fw-la neither_o the_o pâ—pâ—_n â—or_a any_o general_a council_n can_v make_v that_o to_o be_v a_o point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o so_o before_o and_o in_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v s._n augustine_n declare_v what_o such_o thing_n be_v as_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n as_o the_o passion_n resurrection_n and_o ascensâ—â—â—_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o the_o 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sixth_o be_v this_o he_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n itself_o but_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n move_v he_o the_o sum_n of_o our_o former_a 2_o former_a sect._n â—_o diu._n 2_o answer_n unto_o this_o be_v this_o s._n augustine_n speak_v this_o of_o the_o time_n when_o he_o be_v a_o manichee_n but_o after_o his_o conversion_n he_o make_v a_o better_a confession_n he_o speak_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n not_o of_o the_o now_o roman_a church_n that_o power_n which_o he_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v a_o mover_n to_o persuade_v we_o to_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v a_o lawgiver_n to_o coin_v article_n of_o our_o belief_n the_o 7_o be_v likewise_o 8_o likewise_o sect._n 4._o diu._n 8_o answer_v although_o we_o have_v no_o certain_a example_n hereof_o out_o of_o scripture_n yet_o we_o hold_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o this_o thing_n when_o we_o do_v that_o which_o now_o please_v the_o universal_a church_n the_o example_n which_o 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be_v great_a reason_n to_o take_v away_o marriage_n from_o priest_n but_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n to_o restore_v it_o unto_o they_o again_o and_o so_o we_o proceed_v to_o his_o next_o section_n the_o title_n whereof_o be_v this_o sect_n viii_o for_o what_o cause_n all_o heretic_n have_v be_v accustom_v to_o reject_v apostolical_a tradition_n when_o i_o first_o read_v the_o title_n of_o this_o section_n i_o expect_v no_o other_o stuff_n than_o i_o find_v therein_o even_o a_o deal_n of_o bombast_n to_o stuff_n it_o out_o and_o as_o the_o title_n be_v a_o digression_n so_o the_o whole_a section_n consist_v of_o three_o digression_n from_o the_o question_n the_o 1._o be_v of_o the_o affinity_n of_o heresy_n and_o idolatry_n the_o 2._o about_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n the_o 3._o be_v touch_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tradition_n concern_v the_o 1._o he_o begin_v thus_o the_o reader_n must_v observe_v that_o heresy_n be_v a_o 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out_o of_o the_o scripture_n in_o which_o it_o be_v write_v in_o a_o other_o form_n of_o word_n â—1_n word_n glorificate_n ergo_fw-la deum_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la ubi_fw-la delucidè_fw-la ostend_v it_o deum_fw-la esse_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la glorificandum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la nostro_fw-la aug._n count_v maxim_n l._n 3._o c._n â—1_n glorify_v therefore_o god_n in_o your_o body_n this_o evident_o declare_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v god_n and_o that_o he_o must_v be_v glorify_v in_o our_o body_n say_v s._n augustine_n and_o again_o 66._o again_o glorifieate_v deum_n &_o portate_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la vestro_fw-la quem_fw-la deum_fw-la nisi_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la cujus_fw-la corpora_fw-la nostra_fw-la dixerit_fw-la esse_fw-la templum_fw-la aug._n epist_n 66._o glorify_v god_n in_o your_o body_n who_o do_v he_o mean_v but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o temple_n he_o call_v our_o body_n and_o concern_v the_o word_n coessential_a unbegotten_a and_o the_o like_a he_o say_v 174._o say_v etiasi_fw-la vocabula_fw-la ista_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la inveniuntur_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la cvi_fw-la haec_fw-la vocabula_fw-la rectè_fw-la adhibita_fw-la indicentur_fw-la aug._n epist_n 174._o although_o those_o word_n be_v not_o find_v in_o scripture_n yet_o we_o may_v find_v that_o which_o be_v intend_v by_o those_o word_n this_o than_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n although_o those_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o write_v and_o as_o s._n augustine_n answer_v pascentius_n the_o arian_n so_o i_o may_v answer_v the_o jesuite_n ibidem_fw-la jesuite_n quid_fw-la contentiosius_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la what_o be_v more_o contentious_a then_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o the_o thing_n 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