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A36832 The conformity of the discipline and government of those who are commonly called independants to that of the ancient primitive Christians by Lewis Du Moulin. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1680 (1680) Wing D2533; ESTC R25012 54,163 74

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church_n chap._n
in_o his_o catechism_n yet_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o from_o the_o second_o age_n they_o be_v distinguish_v in_o name_n and_o office_n that_o the_o first_o priest_n or_o bishop_n attend_v more_o peculiarly_a upon_o preach_v in_o public_a and_o the_o priest_n and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o function_n of_o lesser_a consequence_n as_o almsgiving_n etc._n etc._n from_o whence_o it_o be_v that_o we_o read_v so_o often_o of_o the_o first_o bishop_n of_o rome_n that_o such_o a_o one_o create_v so_o many_o priest_n so_o many_o deacon_n and_o that_o hyggen_n in_o the_o year_n 141._o create_v fifteen_o priest_n fifteen_o deacon_n and_o six_o bishop_n that_o eleutherius_fw-la in_o the_o year_n 184_o ordain_v 12_o priest_n 8_o deacon_n and_o 15_o bishop_n not_o to_o serve_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o in_o other_o place_n where_o the_o bishop_n who_o have_v ordain_v they_o be_v to_o attend_v upon_o the_o preach_n in_o public_a and_o the_o priest_n and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o 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