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second_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la whether_o the_o call_n &c._n &c._n as_o we_o hear_v even_o now_o wherefore_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v that_o as_o before_o he_o change_v his_o assertion_n 2._o sect._n 2._o so_o now_o he_o change_v his_o â—_z neither_o be_v it_o hard_o to_o discern_v what_o may_v move_v he_o thereunto_o for_o in_o the_o first_o his_o own_o assertion_n the_o doct._n change_v his_o question_n aswell_o as_o his_o assertion_n word_n discover_v his_o intent_n or_o purpose_n when_o he_o entreat_v his_o ref_n p._n 60._o to_o take_v notice_n what_o be_v the_o question_n betwixt_o they_o that_o so_o he_o may_v discern_v his_o discourse_n concern_v elder_n to_o be_v pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o quaestion_n wherefore_o have_v set_v down_o the_o first_o question_n in_o those_o two_o member_n before_o express_v whether_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v govern_v by_o diocesan_n bishop_n as_o we_o sit_v or_o by_o presbytery_n of_o such_o elder_n as_o they_o speakeâ—f_n he_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v p._n 61._o &_o on_o both_o side_n agree_v on_o that_o the_o church_n be_v govern_v either_o by_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o &_o so_o infer_v that_o the_o disproof_n of_o their_o presbytery_n be_v a_o direct_a proof_n of_o his_o bishop_n a_o direct_a proof_n so_o he_o say_v but_o what_o logician_n of_o any_o judgement_n will_v herein_o subscribe_v to_o his_o affirmation_n the_o question_n have_v two_o member_n the_o doctor_n hold_v the_o affirmative_a in_o the_o former_a and_o the_o negative_a in_o the_o late_a to_o prove_v the_o one_o and_o disprove_v the_o other_o be_v direct_o the_o d._n dispute_v not_o direct_o a_o double_a labour_n wherefore_o since_o the_o doctor_n susteyn_v the_o person_n of_o the_o opponent_n in_o this_o disputation_n begin_v with_o the_o first_o member_n of_o the_o question_n &_o undertake_v to_o prove_v this_o conclusion_n viz._n the_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v govern_v by_o diocesan_n bishop_n such_o as_o we_o be_v who_o will_v not_o now_o in_o a_o orderly_a and_o direct_a course_n of_o disputation_n expect_v at_o his_o hand_n some_o such_o medius_n terminus_fw-la as_o show_v positive_o etherwhat_o agree_v to_o the_o function_n of_o a_o diocesan_n bishop_n or_o what_o manner_n of_o government_n be_v ancient_o practise_v or_o such_o like_a and_o if_o he_o forbear_v to_o argue_v to_o this_o purpose_n will_v not_o man_n of_o judgement_n be_v ready_a to_o think_v that_o either_o he_o have_v little_a to_o allege_v this_o way_n or_o to_o so_o little_a purpose_n that_o he_o distru_v the_o issue_n of_o his_o trial_n but_o if_o he_o shall_v fly_v from_o the_o first_o member_n of_o his_o question_n which_o he_o make_v special_a choice_n of_o and_o that_o with_o resolution_n to_o confirm_v it_o by_o unanswerable_a evidence_n as_o his_o word_n every_o where_o and_o namely_o p._n 29._o 35._o put_v his_o reader_n in_o hope_n and_o if_o in_o stead_n of_o confirm_v this_o point_n he_o shall_v bend_v the_o force_n of_o his_o disputation_n against_o the_o 2._o member_n of_o his_o question_n to_o confute_v the_o reason_n produce_v by_o the_o adverse_a part_n for_o the_o presbytery_n who_o can_v excuse_v his_o incoâ—stancie_n yea_o who_o that_o love_v he_o well_o can_v judge_v otherwise_o then_o that_o it_o have_v be_v much_o better_a for_o his_o credit_n to_o have_v open_o profess_v that_o he_o will_v first_o deal_v with_o the_o late_a member_n and_o then_o come_v to_o the_o former_a or_o rather_o that_o he_o will_v first_o sustain_v the_o person_n of_o a_o respondent_fw-la and_o throw_v the_o burden_n of_o prove_v upon_o his_o opposite_n as_o afterwards_o he_o do_v and_o plain_o profess_v it_o in_o the_o next_o sect_n pag._n 62._o but_o since_o he_o undertake_v the_o person_n of_o a_o opponent_n at_o the_o first_o entrance_n into_o this_o conflict_n let_v we_o see_v how_o artificial_o he_o reason_v from_o the_o one_o member_n of_o his_o question_n to_o the_o other_o his_o disiunctive_a argumentation_n pag._n 62._o stand_v thus_o either_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v govern_v by_o diocesan_n bishop_n or_o by_o such_o presbytery_n as_o they_o stand_v for_o but_o not_o by_o such_o presbytey_n as_o they_o stand_v for_o therefore_o by_o diocesan_n bishop_n the_o proposition_n say_v he_o be_v employ_v in_o the_o very_a question_n between_o we_o and_o the_o disjunction_n be_v therein_o by_o both_o party_n presuppose_v as_o necessary_a the_o assumption_n be_v that_o first_o point_n of_o the_o five_o which_o new_a we_o have_v in_o hand_n but_o first_o i_o deny_v that_o his_o assumption_n be_v the_o first_o of_o his_o 5._o point_n for_o when_o he_o say_v the_o primitive_a church_n be_v not_o govern_v by_o such_o presbytery_n as_o they_o stand_v for_o do_v he_o not_o therein_o oppose_v himself_o equal_o against_o both_o sort_n of_o disciplinariansâ—_n aswell_o those_o that_o require_v a_o presbytery_n to_o assist_v their_o parishbishop_n in_o every_o several_a congregation_n as_o those_o which_o establish_v a_o presbytery_n in_o every_o city_n for_o the_o government_n of_o many_o parish_n under_o one_o precedent_n have_v pre-eminence_n of_o order_n above_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o presbyter_n for_o so_o he_o explane_v the_o late_a member_n of_o his_o disjunctive_a question_n page_n 60._o it_o be_v therefore_o clear_a that_o his_o assumption_n here_o be_v no_o otherwise_o the_o first_o than_o it_o be_v the_o second_o three_o or_o four_o point_n of_o his_o five_o for_o how_o prove_v he_o that_o his_o assumption_n be_v the_o first_o forsooth_o he_o prove_v it_o by_o the_o first_o as_o he_o show_v page_n 62._o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v the_o first_o and_o thus_o he_o prove_v it_o they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v any_o presbyter_n which_o be_v not_o minister_n therefore_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v not_o govern_v by_o such_o presbytery_n as_o they_o stand_v for_o and_o why_o may_v he_o not_o reason_n from_o the_o 2._o 3._o or_o 4._o point_n to_o the_o like_a purpose_n they_o be_v not_o able_a to_o prove_v that_o any_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n use_v government_n be_v parish_n or_o that_o any_o parish_n have_v their_o bishop_n to_o govern_v they_o with_o the_o assistance_n of_o his_o presbytery_n or_o that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v in_o power_n of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n equal_a to_o their_o precedent_n and_o inferior_a to_o he_o only_o in_o order_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v not_o govern_v by_o such_o presbytery_n as_o they_o stand_v for_o but_o this_o be_v to_o overthrow_v his_o dichotomy_n before_o set_v down_o pag._n 54._o &_o repeat_v lib._n 2._o pa._n 41._o special_o that_o first_o distribution_n of_o his_o proof_n which_o refer_v the_o first_o point_n to_o a_o disprove_v of_o their_o presbytery_n anaskevastico_v &_o the_o rest_n to_o the_o approve_v of_o our_o bishop_n kataskevastico_v wherefore_o i_o will_v forbear_v to_o contend_v any_o long_o against_o his_o assumption_n &_o weigh_v rather_o what_o he_o say_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o proposition_n the_o disjunction_n imply_v in_o the_o proposition_n he_o affirm_v to_o be_v necessary_a 3_o sect._n 3_o though_o not_o absolute_o yet_o ex_fw-la hypothesi_fw-la and_o so_o presuppose_v on_o both_o side_n another_o the_o d_o crave_v the_o question_n &_o reason_v from_o one_o member_n of_o it_o to_o another_o but_o i_o must_v give_v he_o to_o wit_n that_o if_o it_o be_v as_o necessary_a as_o he_o suppose_v yet_o this_o kind_n of_o reasoninge_v be_v on_o both_o side_n esteem_v no_o better_a than_o a_o pretty_a crave_v of_o the_o question_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v otherwise_o when_o he_o reason_v from_o one_o member_n of_o the_o question_n to_o the_o other_o else_o why_o may_v he_o not_o disprove_v their_o presbytery_n by_o undertake_v the_o proof_n of_o our_o bishop_n government_n with_o the_o change_n of_o the_o