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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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close_a of_o my_o afternoon_n sermon_n jan._n 13._o at_o bewdley_n recite_v and_o refute_v his_o argument_n in_o the_o disputation_n wherein_o it_o be_v true_a i_o be_v somewhat_o more_o deliberate_a than_o in_o the_o dispute_n yet_o for_o want_v of_o the_o argument_n in_o writing_n i_o can_v not_o then_o give_v so_o full_a and_o exact_a a_o answer_n to_o his_o argument_n as_o have_v be_v requisite_a nor_o perhaps_o shall_v now_o to_o this_o because_o mr._n b._n do_v not_o plain_o set_v down_o though_o request_v by_o i_o what_o that_o benefit_n privilege_n or_o mercy_n be_v which_o he_o conceive_v annex_v to_o infant_n visible_a churchmembership_n unrepealed_a but_o that_o either_o
be_v by_o teach_v the_o person_n themselves_o and_o that_o none_o else_o may_v be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o those_o that_o have_v learn_v then_o 1._o it_o will_v much_o more_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o invisible_a as_o i_o have_v show_v or_o at_o least_o we_o be_v not_o to_o judge_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o invisible_a church_n at_o all_o 2._o and_o if_o from_o matth._n 28.20_o they_o may_v argue_v that_o none_o but_o those_o that_o be_v teach_v be_v disciple_n and_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v why_o may_v they_o not_o as_o well_o argue_v from_o mar._n 16.16_o whosoever_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v that_o all_o infant_n be_v certain_o damn_v wherein_o lie_v the_o difference_n in_o these_o two_o argument_n sure_o the_o late_a seem_v to_o i_o to_o have_v more_o show_n from_o scripture_n though_o but_o little_a i_o dare_v invite_v mr._n t._n to_o prove_v to_o i_o from_o scripture_n that_o any_o infant_n in_o the_o world_n be_v justify_v and_o sanctify_v and_o try_v if_o i_o shall_v not_o in_o the_o same_o way_n prove_v that_o some_o infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o let_v he_o answer_v the_o argument_n from_o mar._n 16.16_o that_o be_v bring_v for_o their_o damnation_n and_o see_v if_o it_o will_v not_o afford_v he_o also_o a_o answer_n to_o that_o from_o matt._n 28._o against_o their_o be_v disciple_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v answ._n 1._o he_o have_v no_o where_o make_v good_a this_o consequence_n if_o infant_n be_v not_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o will_v follow_v much_o more_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o invisible_a or_o at_o least_o that_o we_o be_v not_o to_o judge_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o invisible_a church_n at_o all_o 2._o it_o do_v not_o follow_v whosoever_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v damn_v therefore_o infant_n because_o the_o text_n itself_o show_v the_o speech_n to_o be_v limit_v only_o to_o those_o unbeliever_n to_o who_o the_o gospel_n be_v preach_v v_o 15._o yet_o it_o follow_v none_o be_v disciple_n and_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o the_o teach_v matth._n 18.19_o ●0_n because_o christ_n first_o appoint_v person_n to_o be_v teach_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o account_v disciple_n 3._o let_v mr._n b._n take_v these_o argument_n and_o try_v whether_o he_o can_v prove_v infant_n visible_a churchmembership_n from_o they_o they_o of_o who_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v justify_v and_o sanctify_v but_o of_o some_o infant_n be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n ergo._fw-la they_o who_o be_v elect_v to_o life_n for_o who_o christ_n die_v be_v justify_v and_o sanctify_v be_v they_o die_v but_o so_o some_o be_v infant_n ergo._fw-la 4._o the_o argument_n be_v answer_v from_o mark_n 16.16_o let_v m._n b._n try_v how_o he_o can_v answer_v i_o from_o matth._n 28.19_o 20._o mark_v 16.15_o 16._o etc._n etc._n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o review_n sect_n 5_o etc._n etc._n or_o as_o it_o be_v in_o my_o praecursor_n sect_n 16._o pag._n 66._o out_o of_o his_o word_n which_o be_v show_v in_o the_o 2_o d._n part_n of_o the_o review_n sect_n 4._o pag._n 66_o 67._o not_o to_o be_v answer_v by_o he_o in_o his_o praefestinantis_fw-la morator_fw-la he_o that_o nullifi●s_v that_o argument_n must_v make_v reformation_n of_o humane_a addition_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n as_o part_v of_o it_o void_a mr._n b._n add_v but_o why_o do_v i_o expect_v th●●_n when_o he_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n if_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o particular_a infant_n it_o be_v not_o home_n to_o the_o question_n for_o so_o he_o must_v suspend_v his_o ●udgement_n concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o every_o particular_a person_n as_o certain_a see_v he_o be_v uncertain_a of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o any_o and_o yet_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o conclude_v it_o uncertain_a whether_o any_o man_n he_o save_v but_o if_o he_o mean_v it_o of_o all_o the_o species_n of_o infant_n than_o i_o must_v say_v he_o suspend_v much_o of_o his_o faith_n hope_n and_o charity_n and_o that_o doctrine_n which_o suspend_v our_o belief_n of_o god_n and_o charity_n to_o our_o own_o child_n shall_v be_v none_o of_o my_o creed_n answ._n the_o suspension_n of_o judgement_n which_o in_o my_o postscript_n sect_n 4._o i_o say_v god_n will_v we_o shall_v have_v be_v concern_v the_o certainty_n of_o salvation_n of_o all_o infant_n of_o believer_n die_v in_o infancy_n which_o be_v mean_v of_o particular_a infant_n to_o wit_v the_o infant_n of_o believer_n and_o it_o be_v home_o to_o the_o question_n between_o i_o and_o mr._n m._n and_o mr._n bl._n whether_o there_o be_v such_o a_o certainty_n of_o salvation_n of_o every_o believer_n infant_n die_v so_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n gen_n 17.7_o there_o be_v no_o such_o question_n as_o mr._n b._n will_v impose_v on_o i_o as_o if_o i_o doubt_v whether_o any_o infant_n shall_v be_v save_v but_o this_o i_o do_v and_o do_v still_o conceive_v that_o there_o be_v no_o promise_n of_o salvation_n to_o every_o believer_n infant_n and_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o suspend_v our_o judgement_n concern_v this_o or_o that_o particular_a infant_n not_o of_o all_o the_o species_n of_o infant_n as_o he_o speak_v and_o though_o i_o be_o certain_a of_o every_o believer_n salvation_n yet_o i_o be_o not_o certain_a of_o this_o or_o that_o professor_n that_o he_o be_v a_o sincere_a believer_n and_o therefore_o concern_v this_o i_o be_o to_o suspend_v any_o peremptory_a judgement_n of_o science_n yet_o i_o be_o not_o to_o suspend_v my_o judgement_n of_o charity_n which_o yet_o i_o be_o to_o suspend_v towards_o infant_n there_o be_v no_o action_n of_o they_o which_o may_v occasion_v such_o a_o judgement_n nor_o hereby_o do_v i_o suspend_v any_o act_n of_o faith_n hope_n or_o charity_n which_o i_o ought_v to_o have_v towards_o god_n or_o my_o own_o child_n and_o if_o what_o i_o hold_v be_v no_o part_n of_o mr._n bs._n creed_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v part_n of_o the_o creed_n of_o as_o holy_a and_o learned_a a_o man_n as_o he_o be_v he_o add_v and_o where_o he_o think_v we_o must_v take_v up_o with_o that_o rom._n 9.18_o he_o will_v have_v mercy_n on_o who_o he_o will_v have_v mercy_n i_o answer_v 1._o this_o be_v no_o other_o ground_n of_o hope_n then_o of_o any_o heathen_a in_o america_n we_o may_v entertain_v 2._o it_o be_v no_o ground_n of_o hope_n for_o infant_n at_o all_o for_o it_o neither_o direct_o nor_o indirect_o promise_v any_o mercy_n to_o they_o nor_o say_v any_o more_o of_o mer●y_n then_o of_o harden_v and_o rather_o will_v afford_v such_o disputer_n a_o argument_n against_o mercy_n to_o any_o infant_n because_o it_o be_v mercy_n put_v in_o opposition_n to_o harden_v which_o infant_n in_o that_o sense_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o answ._n i_o say_v god_n will_v have_v we_o to_o rest_v on_o the_o apostle_n determination_n rom._n 9.18_o to_o wit_n concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o all_o believer_n infant_n and_o to_o this_o i_o be_v induce_v by_o the_o apostle_n argue_v v_o 11_o 12_o 13._o concern_v jacob_n and_o esau._n but_o this_o be_v not_o allege_v by_o i_o as_o a_o ground_n of_o hope_n and_o therefore_o though_o mr._n bs._n consequence_n be_v grant_v there_o be_v nothing_o against_o what_o i_o say_v which_o i_o think_v very_o agreeable_a with_o the_o word_n of_o wickliff_n cite_v as_o a_o approve_a speech_n by_o mr._n b._n himself_o p._n 291._o which_o if_o he_o like_v he_o can_v gainsay_v my_o speech_n but_o he_o say_v yet_o mr._n t._n tell_v we_o there_o be_v hope_n for_o all_o this_o though_o not_o certain_a yet_o probable_a and_o comfortable_a and_o he_o show_v we_o three_o ground_n for_o it_o if_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o species_n of_o infant_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n but_o a_o probability_n that_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v save_v than_o i_o will_v prove_v it_o false_a and_o vile_a anon_o if_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o particular_a individual_a infant_n than_o 1._o it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o can_v be_v say_v of_o any_o man_n at_o age_n for_o no_o other_o man_n have_v any_o certain_a but_o a_o probable_a hope_n of_o their_o salvation_n answ._n i_o have_v often_o say_v i_o mean_v it_o not_o of_o the_o species_n but_o the_o individual_a infant_n of_o believer_n and_o i_o appeal_v to_o mr._n b._n himself_o whether_o he_o do_v not_o say_v as_o i_o say_v plain_a scripture_n etc._n etc._n pag_n 316._o in_o those_o word_n though_o yet_o for_o my_o own_o opinion_n i_o have_v resolve_v no_o further_o than_o this_o that_o we_o be_v to_o judge_v the_o remission_n justification_n and_o salvation_n
scruple_n it_o but_o it_o be_v more_o likely_a none_o do_v scruple_n i●_n because_o there_o be_v no_o occasion_n to_o do_v so_o there_o be_v little_a or_o no_o practice_n of_o it_o which_o be_v make_v very_o probable_a from_o the_o 6_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o neocaesarea_n anno_fw-la 315._o and_o the_o word_n of_o nazianzen_n before_o mention_v as_o for_o the_o constitution_n of_o clement_n in_o one_o whereof_o they_o be_v bid_v baptize_v their_o little_a one_o mr._n m._n do_v well_o to_o confess_v they_o be_v not_o clements_n and_o if_o the_o compiler_n of_o they_o do_v relate_v the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n he_o do_v relate_v late_a custom_n also_o among_o which_o that_o of_o baptise_v infant_n be_v to_o be_v conceive_v one_o for_o the_o reason_n give_v grotius_n annot_n in_o matth._n 19.14_o say_v and_o many_o of_o the_o greek_n from_o every_o age_n unto_o this_o day_n keep_v the_o use_n of_o defer_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a one_o till_o they_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o their_o own_o faith_n but_o of_o this_o before_o sect_n 89.90_o i_o say_v that_o i_o do_v not_o find_v in_o africa_n infant_n baptize_v but_o in_o case_n of_o danger_n of_o death_n or_o for_o health_n of_o body_n dr._n homes_n say_v he_o have_v show_v the_o contrary_a out_o of_o several_a antiquity_n and_o particular_o out_o of_o cyprian_a but_o neither_o in_o cyprian_n nor_o any_o where_o else_o do_v i_o find_v it_o but_o the_o the_o contrary_n in_o tertullian_n and_o as_o for_o augustine_n it_o be_v not_o as_o he_o ●aith_o that_o augustine_n sickness_n while_o young_a be_v some_o occasion_n of_o defer_v his_o baptism_n for_o that_o time_n but_o his_o sickness_n occasion_v the_o hasten_a and_o his_o recovery_n ere_o it_o be_v do_v put_v it_o off_o for_o that_o time_n nor_o do_v m●_n say_v that_o they_o baptize_v infant_n for_o health_n of_o body_n which_o be_v manifest_a from_o augustine_n 23d_o epist._n to_o bonifacius_n clash_n with_o that_o which_o i_o say_v of_o augustine_n assert_v the_o necessity_n of_o infant_n baptism_n to_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n and_o ascribe_v salvation_n to_o it_o for_o he_o both_o might_n and_o do_v conceive_v it_o to_o be_v do_v for_o both_o end_n my_o mention_n of_o the_o continue_a use_n of_o catechise_n in_o augustine_n time_n and_o long_o after_o and_o the_o mention_n of_o baptise_v whole_a country_n upon_o the_o baptise_v of_o their_o king_n be_v very_o pertinent_a though_o not_o to_o show_v no_o infant_n be_v baptize_v then_o yet_o to_o show_v how_o and_o by_o what_o mean_v the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o baptise_v ordinary_a believer_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n after_o catechise_n be_v so_o strange_o change_v that_o whereas_o the_o preface_n in_o the_o common_a prayer_n book_n before_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n say_v it_o appear_v by_o ancient_a writer_n that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o old_a time_n be_v not_o common_o administer_v but_o at_o two_o 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