Law The Case was often argued at Bar and now this Term it was argued at the Bench by the Justices and therein these Points were resolved 1. That the first part of the Custom was absurd and repugnant but it extends not to the Case for the last part of the Custom which concerns the cutting down of the Trees concerns the Point in question and so the first part of the Custom is not material And when it was objected that the pleading that the Messuage of the Plaintiff was in decay was too general as appears by the Book 10 Ed. 4. 3. To that it was answered by Cook Chief â—ustice That the said Book proved the pleading in the Case at Bar was certain enough and therewith agrees 7 H. 6. 38. 34 H. 6. 17. 2. It was Resolved That in this Case without question there needs not to alleadge more certainty for the Copyholder doth not here take it according to the Custom but the Lord of the Mannor cuts it down and preventeth the Copyholder of his benefit and therefore he needeth not to shew any decay at all but onely for increasing of Damages for the Lord does the wrong when he cuts down the Tree which should serve for Reparations 3. It was Resolved That of Common-Right as a thing incident to the Grant the Copyholder may take House-bote Hedge-bote and Plough-bote upon his Copy-hold Quia concesso uno conceduntur omnia sine quibus id consistere non potest And with this agrees 9 H. 4. Wast 59. But the same may be restrained by Custome 4. It was Resolved That the Lord cannot take all the Timber-Trees but he ought to have sufficient for Reparation of the Customary Houses and for Plough-bote c. for otherwise great Depopulation will follow And it is to be understood that Bote being on old Saxon Word hath two significations First compensatio criminis as Frithbote signifies to be discharged for giving amends for breach â—f the Peace Manhote to be discharged of amends for the death of a man And secondly for Reparation as Bridgebote Burghbote Castlebote Parkbote c. And it is to be known that Bote and Estovers are all one And Estover is derived of the French Word Estover i. e. fovere i. e. to keep warm cherish c. And there are four kinds of Estovers viz. First Arandi Secondly Ardendi Thirdly Construendi And fourthly Claudendi viz. Ploughbote Firebote Housebote and Hedgebote 5. It was Resolved That the Copyholder shall have a general Action of Trespass against his Lord Quare clausum fregit arborem suam succidit For Custome hath fixed it to his Estate against his Lord. And the Copy-holder in this Case hath as great an Interest in the Timber Trees as he hath in his Messuage which he holds by Copy And if the Lord break or destroy the House without question the Copyholder shall have an Action of Trespass against his Lord Quare domum fregit and by the same Reason for the Timber-Trees which are annexed to the Land and which he may for Reparation of his Messuage or else it cannot stand See Trin. 40 Eliz. Rot. 37. in B. R. between Stebbing and Grosenor See Taylor 's Case in the Fourth Part of my Reports and see 5 H. 4. 2. 2 H. 4. 12. 2 E. 4. 15. 1 H. 6. 4. 7 H. 4. 15. 19 H. 6. 34. 11 H. 4. 28. 11 H. 4. 23. 21 H. 7. 14. b. acc 35 H. 6. 24. 30 H. 6. Tresp 10. c. 21 H. 7. 15. 11 H. 4. 23. See Fitz. Trespass ultimo in the Abridgement And afterwards the same Term Judgment was given on the principal Case for the Plaintiff Pasch 8 Jacobi In Communi Ranco The Parishioners of St. Alphage in Canterbury by Custome ought to choose the Parish-Clerk whom they chose accordingly The Parson by colour of a new Canon made at the Convocation in the Year of the King that now is which is not of force to take away any Custome drew the Clark before Dr. Newman Officiall of the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury to deprive him upon the Point of right Election and for other Causes And upon that it was moved at the Bar to have a Prohibition And upon hearing of Dr. Newman and himself and his Councel a Prohibition was granted by the whole Court because the Party chosen is a meer Temporal Man And the means of choosing him viz. the Custome is also meerly Temporal So as the Official cannot deprive him but upon occasion the Parishioners may displace him And this Office is like that of a Church-Warden who though they be chosen for two years yet for cause they may displace them as is held in 26 H. 8. 5. And though the Execution of the Office concerneth Divine Service yet the Office it self is meer Temporal See 3 E. 3. Annuity 30. 18 E. 3. 27. And it is to be known that the deprivation of a man of a Temporal Office or Place is a Temporal Thing Upon which no Appeal lyes by the 25 H. 8. but an Assize as in 4 Eliz. Dyer 209. And therewith agrees the Book 8 Ass Sirases Case But if a Dean of a Cathedral Church be deprived before the Commissioners of the King he may appeal to the Delegates within the said Act 25 H. 8. For a Deanery is a Spiritual Promotion and not Temporal And before that Act in such Case the Appeal was to Rome immediately Mich. 5 Jacobi Regis In Banco Regis Prichard and Hawkin's Case John Prichard brought an Action upon the Case against Robert Hawkins for Slanderous Words publish'd the last Day of August 3. Jacob. Viz. That Prichard which serves Mistriss Shelley did murder John Adam's Child Quandam Isabellam Adams modo defunct filia cujusdam Johannis Adams de c. innuendo Upon which a Writ of Errour was brought in the Exchequer-Chamber upon a Judgment given for Prichard in the Kings-Bench and the Judgment was reversed in Easter Term 7 Jac. because it doth not appear that Isabel was dead at the time of speaking the words for tunc defunct ought to have bin in stead of modo defunct Pasch 8 Jac. In Banco Regis Dison and Bestney's Case Humphry Dyson said of Nicholas Bestney a Councellor at Law of Grays-Inne Thou a Barrester Thou art no Barrester Thou art a Barretor Thou wert put from the Bar and darest not shew thy self there Thou study the Law thou hast as much Wit as a Daw. Upon Not Guilty pleaded the Jury found for the Plaintiff and gave 23 l. Damages upon which Judgment was given and upon Writ of Errour in the Exchequer-Chamber the Judgment was affirmed Pasch 8 Jac. Regis In Banco Regis Smith and Hill's Case Noah Smith brought an Action of Assault and Battery against Walter Hill in the Kings-Bench which began Pasch 7 Jac. Rot. 175. Upon Not Guilty pleaded a Verdict and Judgment for the Plaintiff and 107 l. given for Damages and Costs In a Writ of Errour in the Exchequer Chamber the Errour was
or Demise of his Lands Wards c. these are Contracts concerning the Kings Revenues and there it cannot be said that the Subjects sponte se obligant as to purchase any the Revenues of the King 3. It ought to be sponte super considerationem non ex mera gratia benevolentia subditi Hil. 4. Ed. 1. in Scaccario c. 4. It ought to be sponte super considerationem quae non loâ—ge reventionem seu interesse Coronae in any thing which the King hath As if a Subject give the King a Summe of Money for Licence in Mortmain or to create a Tenure of himself to have a Fair Market Park Chase or Warren in his Mannor there the Queen shall have it for the Subject did this sponte And this Resolution was reported to the King by Popham in the Gallery at White-Hall Pasch 5 Jac. Regis The Case of Forests This Term it was informed to the King that great wrongs were done in the Forest of Leicester in the County of Leicester and in his Forest of Bowland in the County of Warwick parcel of his Dutchy of Lancaster And upon this by Warrant from the King under his Signet all the Justices were assembled to resolve certain Questions to be moved concerning Forests by the Attorney of the Dutchy and the Councel of the other part which were Forests and Chases Which being matter in Fact the Judges could not give their Resolutions but by way of Directions And it was Resolved 1. That if these are Forests it will appear by matter of Record as by Eyres of Justices of Forests Swannimotes Regardors c. But the calling it a Forest in Grants c. proveth it not a Forest in Law 2. Resolved by all the Justices That if there be no Forests in Law but Free-Chases then who hath any Free-hold in them may cut his Wood growing upon it without view or Licence leaving sufficient for Covert to maintain the Kings Games so a common person having Chace in another Soil the Owner may not destroy the Covert nor Browse-wood 3. Resolved That in such a Chase the Owner by Prescription may have Common for his Sheep and Warren for his Coneys by Grant or Prescription but he must not surcharge or make Burrows in other places than hath been used from the time of which nor may he erect a new Warren without Charter 4. Resolved That who hath such a Warren may lawfully build a Lodge upon his Inheritance for preservation of his Game 5. Popham Chief Justice said That in the time of Chief Baron Bett It was adjudged in the Exchequer That a man may prescribe to cut his Wood upon his own Inheritance within a Forest though it was against the Act in the 43 Ed. 1. See the Abridgement Title Forest 21. And this was the Case of Sellenger vide 2 Ed. 2. Title Trespass fol. 9. in the time of Ed. 1. Trespass 239. â—low Com. Dyer 72. 32. 2 Ed. 4. cap. 7. that the Subject may have a Forest Consuetudo ex rationebili causa usitata privat communem Legem And it was held by some that this was but an Ordinance not an Act of Parliament Pasch 5 Jacobi Regis Case of Conspiracy This Term in the Case between Rice ap Evan ap Floyd Plaintiff and Richard Barker one of the Justices of the Grand Sessions in the County of Anglesey and others Defendants 1. Resolved by Popham and Coke Chief Justices the Chief Baron and Egerton Lord Chancellor and all the Court of Star-Chamber That when a Grand Inquest indicts one of Murder or Felony though the Party be acquitted yet no Conspiracy lyes for him against the Inâ—ictors for they are returned by the Sheriff by Law to make Inquiry of Offences upon their Oath for service of the King and Country and are compellable to serve the Law 10 Eliz. 265. And their Indictment or Verdict is matter of Record and called Verum dictum and shall not be avoided by Surmise and no Attaint lyes And with this agrees the Books in 22 Assise 77. 27 Ass 12. 21 Ed. 3. 17. 16 H. 6. 19. 47 Ed. 3. 17. 27 H. 8. 2. F. N. B. 115. a. But otherwise of a Witness for if he conspire out of the Court and after swear in Court his Oath shall not excuse his Conspiracy before for he is a private person 2. Resolved That when the party indicted is convictd of Felony by another Jury upon Not Guilty pleaded there he shall never have a Writ of Conspiracy But when he is upon his Arraignment Lâ—gitimo modo acquietatus But in the Case at Bar the Grand Jury who Indicted one William Price for the Murther of Hugh ap William the Jury who upon Not Guilty pleaded convicted him were Charged Indicted and Convict in the Star-Chamber which was never seen before For if the party shall not have a Conspiracy against the Indictors when Acquitted a multo fortiori when he is lawful Convict he shall neither charge the Grand Inquest nor Jury that convicted him But when a Jury acquits a Felon or Traytor against manifest Proof there they may be charged in the Star-Chamber ne maleficia remanerent impunita But if such Supposals shall be admitted after ordinary Judicial Proceedings it will be a means ad detrahendos Juratores deterrendos a servitio Regis 3. Resolved That Barker who was Judge of Assize and gave Judgement upon the Verdict of Death against the said W. P. and the Sheriff that executed him nor the Justices of Peace that examined the offender and the Witnesses for proof of the murther before the Indictment were not to be drawn in question in the Star-Chamber for any conspiracy nor ought to be charged there with any conspiracy or elsewhere when the party indicted is convicted or Attaint of murther or Felony And though such person were acquitted yet the Judge c. being by Commission and of Record and sworn to do Justice cannot be charged for conspiracy for that he openly did in Court as Judge Justice of Peace c. but if he hath conspired before out of Court this is extrajudiciall but subordinations of Witnesses and false malicious prosecutions out of Court c. amounts to an unlawfull conspiracy And if Judicial matters of Record which are of so high a nature that for their sublimity they import verity in themselves should be drawn in question by partiall and sinister supposall and averments of offenders there will never be an end of Causes but Controversies will be infinite Et infinitum in jure repâ—obatur 47 Ed. 3. 15. 25. Ed. 4 67. and 27 Ass pl. 12. But in a Hundred Court or other Court which is not of Record there averment may be taken against their proceedings 47 Ed. 3. 15. Also one shall never assign for Error that the Jury gave Verdict for the Defendant and the Court entred it for the Plaintiff c. Vide 1 H. 6 4. 39 H. 6. 52. 7 H. 7. 4. 11 H. 7. 28. 1 Mar. Dyer
and being amongst them of the Grand Inquest though not returned as one of them of his malice and upon his own knowledge as he pretended indicted 17 honest men upon divers penal Laws Some of the Justices looking over the Bills and seeing so many honest men indicted as they supposed malitiously demanded what Evidence they had to find the said Bills and they answered By the Testimony and Cognizance of one of themselves viz. Robert Scarlet And upon Examination it appeared that the said Robert Scarlet was not returned but had procured himself to be sworn by Confederacy as aforesaid For which Offence he was indicted at the Summer Assizes following 10 J c. held at Buâ—y upon the Statute 11 H. 4. c. 9. And he pleaded not guilty All the especiall Matter aforesaid being proved he was found guilty by a substantial Jury And in this Case divers Points were considered 1. Whether Justices of Assize have power to punish this offence or no And it was held affirmatively scil by force of their Commission of Oyer and Terminer And if the Act be indefinite or general and doth not give Jurisdiction to any Courts in special the general words of Commission of Oyer and Terminer extends to it Vide 7 Eliz. Dyer Commissioners of Oyer and Terminer may inquire of Offences against Penal Statutes unless the Statute appoint them to be determined in any Court of Record And the Opinion there that in any Courts of Record are restrained to the four ordinary Courts at Westminster is not held for Law as the Statute 5 Ed. 6. 14. against Forestallers c. gives the Penalty to be recovered in any Court of Record And Justices of Assize in regard of their Commission of Oyer and Terminer have always enquired thereof So the 33 H. 8. 9. of unlawful Games And of Woods 35 H. 8. c. 17. and many others 2. The second consideration was upon the Statute 11 H. 4. cap. 9. and it was held that Robert Scarlet was an Offender within that Statute because knowing he was not returned of the Grand Inquest procured himself by false Conspiracy to be sworn as aforesaid 3. The third Consideration was had of 3 H. 8. 10. which alters the Act of the 11 H. 4. in part as to denomination But in regard that still by that Act none can be of any Grand Inquest but by Return of the Sheriff And for this the Act 3 H. 8. 10. hath not altered the Law as to the Offence of Robert Scarlet 4. The said Act 11 H. 4. hath made a new Law viz. That any Indictment found against the said Act shall be void So that this may draw in Question all the Indictments found at the same Sâ—ssions And for this Judgment was given that he should be fined and imprisoned Trin. 10 Jac. Regis Baker and Hall's Case Note Upon Consideration of the Statute 3 H. 7. c. 14. It was Resolved by Coke Chief Justice of the Common-Pleas Yelverton Williams Snig and others That whereas it is provided that what person soever takes a Woman so against her Will c. in respect of this Word So which hath relation to the Preamble It was agreed by all that if the Wife hath nothing nor is Heir apparent it is out of the Statute for iâ— would not have been so curious in describing the Person and all in vain And Clergy is taken away by the 38 Eliz. cap. 9. for Principals or Procurers before Vide Stamf. so 37. b. and so was the Law taken 3 4 P. M. Vide Lamb 252. Note Receivers of the Woman are Principals but not the Receivers of them who took the Woman Vide Lamb. bid Note I saw a Report in Queen Mary's time upon the 50 Ed. 3. cap. 5. and 1 R. 2. cap. 15. concerning arresting Priests in Holy Church that the said Statutes are but in affirmance of the Common-Law and 't is there held that eundo redeundo morando for to celebrate Divine Service the Priest ought not to be arrested nor any who aid him in it and that the Party grieved may have an Action upon the Statute 50 Ed. 3. For though an Act doth not give an Action yet Action lyeth upon it 7 H. 6. 30. c. 2 H. 5. and 4 Ed. 4. 37. Vide Register in breve super Stat. Note If a man be convicted or hath Judgment of Death for Felony he shall never answer by the Common Law to any Felony done before the Attainder so long as the Attainder remains in force Vide 8 Eliz. c. 4. 18 Eliz 7. And at this day if a man be adjudg'd to be hang'd and hath his Pardon he shall never answer to any Felony before for he cannot have two Judgments to be hang'd Aliter If the first Attainder by Errour be reversed Vide 10 H. 4. Coroâ— 227. Case del Appeal c. A man seized of a Mannor to which he hath stray appendant by Prescription c. by his Bayley he seizeth an Ox as a Stray in the Mannor and makes Proclamation according to Law and within the Year and Day le ts the Mannor with all Royalties c. And Dyâ—r Sergeant moved the Court who should have the Stray And Brown Justice was of Opinion that the Lâ—ssor should have it But all the Justices were against him that the Lessee shall have it because the property of the Stray is not altered before the Year and Day and till then the Lord or the Mannor hath but the custody of it In Dr. Hutchinson's Case Parson of Kenn in Devonshire It was Resolved per totam Curiam That if any shall receive or take Money Fee Reward or other Profit for any Presentation to a Benefice with Cure although in truth he which is presented be not knowing of it yet the Presentation Admission and Induction are void per expressa verba Statuti 31 H. 8. cap. 6. and the King shall have the Presentation hac vice But if the Presence be not cognizant of the Corruption then he shall not be within the Clause of Disability in the same Statute and so it was Resolved by all the Justices in Fleetstreet Mich. 8. Jac. so 7. vide verba statuti Hugh Manneyes Case In an Information in the Exchequer against Hugh Manney Esque the Father and Hugh Manney the Son for Intrusion and cutting a great number of Trees in Merionâ—th shire the Defendants plead not guilty and one Rowland ap Eliza produced as a Witness for the King deposed upon his Oath that Hugh the Father and Son joyned in sale of the said Trees and commanded the Vendees to cut them down The Jury found upon this great Damages for the King and Judgment was given and Execution had of a great part Hugh Manney the Father exhibited a Bill in the Star-Chamber at Common-Law against Rowland ap Eliza and assigns the Perjury in this That the said Hugh the Father did never joyn in Sale nor command the Vendees to cut the Trees and Rowland ap Eliza was convict
found by Office as appears by the Books 11 H. 4. 52. Ass 31. 30. Ass 28. 46 Ed. 3. bre 618. 9 H. 7. 24. c. 1 As to the first it was Resolved That the Wife should be endowed and that the Fine with Proclamations was not a Bar to her and yet it was Resolved That the Act 4 H. 7. c. 24. shall barre a Woman of her Dower by such a Fine if the Woman bring not her Writ of Dower within five years after the Husbands death as was adjudged Hill 4 H. 8. Rot. 344. in the Common-Pleas and 5 Eliz Dyer 224. For by the Act the Title of Feâ—e-Covert iâ— saved by taking Action in 5 years after she is uncovert c. But it was Râ—solved That the Wife was not to be aâ—dâ—d by that saving for in respect of her Husbands Attainder she had not any Right of Dower at his death nor could sue for the same after his death But it was Resolved That the Wife was to be aided by another former saving in the same Act viz. And saving to all other persons viz. who were not Parties to the Fine such Action Right c. as shall first grow or come c. to them after the Fine ingrossed and Proclamations made by force of any Gift in Tail or other Cause or Matter before the Fine levyed so that they take their Action and pursue their Title within 5 years after such Right come to them c. And in this Case the Action and Right of Dower accrewed to the Wife after the Reversal of the Attainder by reason of a Title of Record before the Fine by reason of the Seizin in Fee had and Marriage made before the Fine levyed according to the meaning of the said Act. And as to the Point of Relation it was Resolved That sometimes by construction of Law a thing shall relate ab initio to some intent and to some not for relatio est fictio Juris to do a thing which was and had essence to be adnulled ab initio betwixt the same Parties to advance a Right but not to advance a Wrong which the Law hates or to defeat Collateral Acts which are lawful and chiefly if they concern Strangers for true it is as hath been said that as to the mean profits the same shall have relation by construction of Law till the time of the first Judgment given and that is to favour Justice and advance his Right that hath Wrong by the Erroneous Judgment But if a Stranger hath done a Trespass upon the Land in the mean time he who recovereth after the Reversal shall have an Action of Trespass against the Trespassors and if the Defendant pleads there is to such Record the Plaintiff shall shew the Special Matter and maintain his Action And for the better apprehending the Law on this Point it is to know That when any man recovers any Possession or Seizin of Land in any Action by Erroneous Judgment and afterwards the Judgment is reversed as is said before and thereupon the Plaintiff in the Writ of Errour shall have a Writ of Restitution and that Writ reciâ—es the first recovery and the Reversal of it in the Writ of Errour is That the Plaintiff in the Writ of Errour shall be restored to his Possession and Seizin Una cum exitibus thereof from the time of the Judgment c. Tibi praecipimus quod cadem A. ad plenariam seizinam tenementor praed c. restitui facias per Sacramentum proborum c. diligâ—nter inquiras ad quantum exitus proficua tenementor illor c. a tempore falsi Judicii c. usque ad Oct. Sanct. Mich. anno c. quo die Judicium illu c. revocat fuit c. et quâ—liter hoc praecept c. in Octâ—b c. By which it appears that the Plaintiff in the Writ of Errour shall have Restitution against him who recovereth of all the mean Profits without any regard by them taken for the Plaintiff in the Writ of Erâ—our cannot have Remedy against a Stranger and therefore the words of the said Writ command the Sheriff to inquire of the Issues and Profits generally c. And therefore the Plaintiff in the Writ of Errour after the Reversal shall have any Action of Trespass for a Trespass mean and therewith agreeth Brian Chief Justice 4 H 7. 12. a. See Butler and Baker's Case in the third Part of my Reports good matter concerning Relations So as it was Resolved in the Case at Bar though to some intent the Reversal hath relation yet to bar the Wife of her Dower by fiction of Law by the Fâ—ne with Proclamations and five years past after the Husbands death when in truth she had not cause of Action nor any Title so long as the Attainder stood in force should be to do a Wrong by a fiction in Law and to bar the Wife who was a meer stranger and could have no Relief till the Attainder was reversed As to the other Objection That the Demandant on the Petition ought to have an Office found for hâ—r It was Resolved That it needed not in this Case because the Title of Dower stood with the Queens Title and affirmed it Also in this Case the Queen was not intitled by any Office that the Wife should be driven to traverse it for then she ought to have had an Office But in case of Dower though that Office had been found for the Queen which doth not disaffirm the Title of Dower in such Case the Wife shall have her Petition without Office See Sâ—dlers Case in the Fourth Part of my Reports And the Case put on the other side was utterly denied by the Court for it was Resolved That if a man seized of Lands in Fâ—e take a Wife of eight years of Age and alien his Lands and after the Wife attains to the Age of nine years and afterwards the Husband dyeth that she shall be endowed because the Title of Dower being not consummate till the death of the Husband and there being Marriage Seizin in Fee age of 9 years and the Husbands death for that cause she shall be endowed it being sufficient that the Marriage Seizin and Age happen during the Coverture So if a man seized of Lands in Fee take a Wife and after she elopes from her Husband now she is barrable of her Dower if during the elopement the Husband alien and after the Wife is reconciled she is Dowable So if a man hath Issue by his Wife and the Issue dyeth and afterwards Land discends to the Wife or she purchase Lands in Fee and dyes without other Issue the Husband for the Issue which he had before the Discent or Purchase shall be Tenant by the Courtesie But if a man taketh an Alien to Wife and afterwards he aliens his Lands and after that she is made a Denizen she shall not be endowed for she was not by her Birth capable of Dower but by her Denization it began But
their Consciences and Oaths they can 2. That all the said Cases are clear in the Judgment of those who are Learned in the Laws that Consultation ought by the Law to be granted 1. For as to the first President the Case upon their own shewing is Three Persons joyned in one Prohibition for three several parcels of Land each having a several sort of Tything and their Interests being several they could not joyn and therefore a Consultation was granted 2. To the second the manner of Tything was alleadged to be paid to the Parson or Vicar which is uncertain 3. To the third The Modus never came in Debate but whether the Tythes did belong to the Parson or Vicar which being between two Spiritual Persons the Ecclesiastical Court shall have Jurisdiction and therewith agrees 38 E. 3. 6. 4. To the last The same was upon the matter of a Custom of a Modus Decimandi for Wooll for to pay the Tythe of Corn or Hay in Kind in satisfaction of Corn Hay and Wooll cannot be a satisfaction for the Wooll for the other two were due of common right The Bishop of London answer'd That the words of the Consultation were Quod suggestio praedicta mattriaque in eadem cohtenta minus sufficiens in lege existit c. So as materia cannot be referâ—ed to Form and therefore it ought to extend to the Moâ—us Decimandi To which I answer'd That when the Matter is insufficiently or uncertainly alleadged the Matter it self faileth and though the Matter be in truth sufficient yet if it were insufficiently alleadged the Plea wanteth matter Then the Lord Treasurer saâ—d he wondered they would produce things that made more against them then any thing had been said And when the King relyed upon the Prohibition in the Register when Land is given in discharge of Tythes the Lord Chancellor said That was not like this Case For there by the Gift of the Land the Tythes were discharged but in the Case de modo Decimandi an Annual Sum is paid yet the Land remains charged and is to be discharged by Plea de modo Decimâ—ndi All which I utterly denied For the Land was as absolutely discharged of the Tythes in casu de modo Decimandi as where Lands are given All which the King heard with patience and the Chancellor answer'd no more After the King with all his Councel had for 3 dayes together heard the Allegations on both sides he said He would maintain the Laws of England and that his Judges should have as great respect from all his Subjects as their Predecessors And for the Matter he said for any thing had been said on the Clergies part he was not satisfied and advised Us the Judges to confer among our selves and that nothing be encroached in the Ecclesiastical Jurisdâ—ction and they to keep within their Jurisdiction And this was the end of these three dayes Consultation Note Dr. Bennet in his Discourse inveighed much against the Opinion 8 E. 4. 14. and in my Reports in Wrights Case That the Ecclesiastical Judge would not allow a Modus Decimandi and said that was the Mistery of Iniquiâ—y and they would allow it The King asked for what cause it was so said in the said Books To which I answer'd That it appears in Linwood who was Dean of the Arches and a Profound Canonist who wrote in Henry the Sixth's time in his Title De decimis cap Quoniam propter c. fol. 139. b. Quod decimae soluantur absque ulla diminutione And in the Gloss it is said Quod consuetudo de non Decimando aut de non bene decimando non valet And that being written by so great a Canonist was the cause of the said Saying in 8 E. 4. that they would not allow the said Plea de modo decimandi And it seemed to the King that that Book was a good cause for them in Edward the Fourth's time to say as they had said But I said I did not rely thereon but on the Grounds aforesaid Lastly The King said that the High Commission ought not to meddle with any thing but that which is enormous and which the Law cannot punish as Heresie Schism Incest and the like great Offences And the King thought that two High-Commissions for either Province one should be sufficient for all England and no more Mich. 39 40 Eliz. In the Kings-Bench Bedel and Sherman's Case Mich. 39 40 Eliz. Which is entred Mich. 40 Elizâ— in the Common-Pleas Rot. 699. Cantabr the Case was this Robert Bedel Gent. and Sarah his Wife Farmers of the Rectory of Litlington in the County of Cambridge brought an Action of Debt against John Sherman in custodia mariscalli c. and demanded 550 l. and declared that the Master and Fellows of Clare-Hall in Cambridge were ieized of the said Rectory in Fee in right of the said Colledge and the 10 Jun. 29 Eliz. by Indenture dâ—nised to Christopher Phesâ—nt the said Rectory for 21 years rendring 17 l. 15 s. 5 d. and reserving Rent-corn according to the Statute c. which Rent was the antient Rent who entred and was possessed and assigned all his Interest to one Matthew Bats who made his last Wâ—ll and made Sarah his Wife Executrix and dyed Sarah proved the Will and entred and was thereof possessed as Executrix and took to Husband the said Robert Beâ—el by force whereof hey in right of the said Sarah entred and were possessed and the Defendant was thâ—n Tenant and seized for his life of 300 Acres of Arable Lands in Litlington aforesaid which ought to pay Tythes to the Rector of Litlington and in 38 Eliz. the Defendant Sâ—minavit grano 200 Acres paâ—c â— c. the Tythes whereof amounted to 150 l. And the Defendant did not set forth the same from the Nine Parts but carryed them away contrary to the Statute 2 E 6 c. The Defendant pleaded Nihil debet And the Jury â—ound that the Defendant did owe 55 l. and to thâ— rest they found Nihil debet And in Arrest of Judgment divers Matters were moved 1. That Grano Seminata is too general and it ought to be expressed with what kind of Grain the same was sowed 2. It was moved If the Parson ought to have the treble value the Forfeiture being â—xoresly limited to none by the Act. or that the same beâ—ong to the Queen 3. If the same belong to the Parson if he ought to sue for it in the Ecclesiastical Court or in the King 's Temporal Court 4. If the Husband and Wife should joyn in the Action or the Husband alone and upon solemn Argument at the Barre and Bench Judgment was affirmed Trin. 7 Jac. Regis In the Court of Wards John Bayley's Case It was found by Writ of Dien clausit extremum that the said John Bayley was seized of a Messuage and of and in the 4th part of one Acre of Land late parcel of the Demesne Lands of the Mâ—nnor of Newton in the