Selected quad for the lemma: judgement_n
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A69830
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A vindication of the Parliament of England, in answer to a book written by William Molyneux of Dublin, Esq., intituled, The case of Irelands being bound by acts of Parliament in England, stated by John Cary ...
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Cary, John, d. 1720?
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1698
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Wing C734; ESTC R22976
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then_o upon_o be_v consider_v which_o be_v this_o as_o i_o find_v it_o in_o his_o abridgement_n pag._n 271._o r._n c._n by_o his_o guardian_n bring_v a_o assize_n the_o defendant_n say_v the_o plaintiff_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v answer_v quia_fw-la est_fw-la aliagena_n natus_fw-la 5_o novemb_n an._n dom._n regis_fw-la angliae_fw-la etc._n etc._n tertio_fw-la apud_fw-la e._n infra_fw-la regnum_fw-la scotiae_fw-la ac_fw-la insra_fw-la ligeanciam_fw-la domini_fw-la regis_fw-la regni_fw-la svi_fw-la s._n ac_fw-la extra_fw-la ligeanciam_fw-la regni_fw-la svi_fw-la angl._n here_o the_o debate_n be_v about_o a_o post_n natus_fw-la in_o scotland_n sir_n edward_n cook_n bring_v the_o quotation_n you_o mention_v for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o last_o word_n thereof_o sed_fw-la personae_fw-la eorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la subjecti_fw-la regis_fw-la sicut_fw-la inhabitant_n in_o calesia_n gasconia_n &_o guyan_n who_o have_v be_v ever_o account_v denizen_n and_o make_v the_o note_n you_o mention_n viz._n which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v unless_o they_o be_v especial_o name_v on_o the_o other_o part_n of_o that_o quotation_n nostra_fw-la statuta_fw-la non_fw-la ligant_fw-la etc._n etc._n because_o he_o will_v not_o be_v think_v of_o opinion_n with_o the_o former_a judge_n et_fw-la non_fw-la obligantur_fw-la per_fw-la statuta_fw-la in_o anglia_fw-it which_o you_o mention_v pag._n 91._o and_o this_o have_v no_o relation_n to_o the_o case_n he_o be_v then_o upon_o he_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o give_v the_o reason_n for_o this_o his_o dissent_n in_o opinion_n from_o they_o which_o make_v you_o call_v he_o magisterial_a etc._n etc._n but_o afterward_o pag._n 117._o you_o say_v that_o in_o another_o place_n of_o the_o same_o report_n he_o give_v this_o colour_n of_o reason_n for_o his_o former_a assertion_n that_o though_o ireland_n be_v a_o distinct_a dominion_n from_o england_n yet_o the_o title_n thereof_o be_v by_o conquest_n the_o same_o by_o judgement_n of_o law_n may_v by_o 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waterford_n which_o be_v the_o same_o you_o now_o quote_v be_v argue_v the_o second_o time_n in_o the_o exchequer_n chamber_n and_o in_o pag._n 80._o you_o tell_v we_o this_o be_v a_o doctrine_n first_o broach_v direct_o by_o will._n hussy_n lord_n chief_a justice_n of_o the_o king_n bench_n in_o england_n in_o the_o first_o year_n of_o henry_n vii_o and_o of_o late_o revive_v by_o the_o lord_n chief_a justice_n cook_n i_o wonder_v how_o you_o can_v make_v such_o bold_a challenge_n which_o need_v no_o far_o trouble_v then_o peruse_v your_o own_o book_n to_o answer_v i_o hope_v i_o have_v now_o vindicate_v my_o lord_n chief_a justice_n cook_n who_o name_n you_o say_v pag._n 116._o be_v of_o great_a veneration_n with_o the_o gentleman_n of_o the_o long_a robe_n if_o so_o i_o may_v likewise_o hope_v they_o will_v give_v i_o thanks_o for_o do_v it_o so_o many_o year_n after_o his_o death_n the_o next_o case_n you_o mention_n be_v that_o of_o pilkinton_n 20_o hen._n 6._o pag._n 122._o 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