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A88693 Suspension reviewed, stated, cleered and setled upon plain scripture-proof. Agreeable to the former and late constitutions of the Protestant Church of England and other reformed churches. Wherein (defending a private sheet occasionally written by the author upon this subject, against a publique pretended refutation of the same, by Mr W. in his book, entituled, Suspension discussed.) Many important points are handled; sundry whereof are shortly mentioned in the following page. Together with a discourse concering private baptisme, inserted in the epistle dedicatory. / By Samuel Langley, R.S. in the county palatine of Chester. Langley, Samuel, d. 1694. 1658 (1658) Wing L405; Thomason E1823_2; ESTC R209804 201,826 263

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word_n this_o bless_a fruit_n i_o have_v reap_v chap._n viii_o §._o 1._o these_o three_o last_o chapter_n be_v due_o weigh_v by_o the_o attentive_a reader_n and_o compare_v with_o mr_n w._n his_o discourse_n from_o pag._n 47._o to_o 62._o i_o hope_v he_o shall_v not_o want_v a_o answer_n for_o most_o there_o allege_v pertinent_o to_o the_o matter_n we_o be_v upon_o extravagancy_n we_o shall_v not_o now_o deal_v with_o yet_o some_o more_o particular_a answer_n shall_v be_v give_v to_o what_o remain_v any_o thing_n considerable_a in_o those_o page_n of_o he_o he_o often_o harp_v upon_o one_o base_a you_o mis-judge_n say_v he_o in_o judge_v the_o morbid_v member_n of_o our_o parochial_a assembly_n to_o be_v infidel_n and_o unbeliever_n positive_o as_o pagan_n p._n 50._o give_v over_o your_o herterodoxall_a brownism_n such_o word_n as_o this_o and_o mormo_fw-la and_o mormonize_v fill_v his_o mouth_n complete_o and_o honour_v the_o christian_a religion_n by_o put_v a_o divine_o positive_a 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person_n to_o who_o they_o be_v dispense_v be_v a_o sincere_a believer_n and_o a_o convert_a person_n be_v a_o position_n wherein_o i_o think_v i_o shall_v never_o see_v mr_n baxter_n answer_v though_o he_o have_v so_o grave_a and_o learn_v a_o antagonist_n engage_v against_o he_o therein_o and_o indeed_o mr_n w._n and_o i_o may_v well_o have_v be_v silent_a to_o have_v hear_v our_o better_n argue_v the_o matter_n that_o be_v my_o opinion_n i_o can_v say_v it_o be_v he_o §._o 2._o p._n 50._o mr_n w._n will_v needs_o show_v we_o how_o they_o who_o be_v ignorant_a and_o disorderly_a can_v be_v believer_n and_o say_v the_o very_o best_a of_o we_o be_v sinner_n and_o saint_n but_o in_o a_o diverse_a respect_n sinner_n ex_fw-la peccato_fw-la remanenti_fw-la saint_n ex_fw-la gratiâ_fw-la renovantis_fw-la or_o sinner_n quoad_fw-la reliquias_fw-la vetustatis_fw-la saint_n quoad_fw-la primitias_fw-la spiritus_fw-la i_o e._n if_o i_o may_v english_a and_o latin_a because_o he_o do_v not_o to_o 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fornication_n and_o continue_v obstinate_o under_o the_o guilt_n thereof_o visible_o in_o some_o particular_a church_n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o thence_o that_o such_o wickedness_n if_o commit_v and_o be_v notorious_a be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a cause_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n and_o our_o present_a case_n as_o to_o the_o probability_n of_o its_o occur_v be_v the_o like_a psalm_n 119._o part_n 13._o n._n 97_o nothing_n i_o love_v as_o thy_o law_n high_a which_o i_o mind_v all_o the_o day_n 98_o none_o of_o my_o foe_n be_v wise_a as_o i._o '_o cause_v thy_o hest_n with_o i_o stay_v 99_o norknow_n my_o guide_n that_o which_o i_o do_v for_o all_o thy_o law_n i_o mind_n 100_o nay_o more_o than_o the_o ancient_n i_o do_v know_v when_o i_o thy_o statute_n bind_v 101_o naughty_a way_n i_o have_v shun_v all_o that_o i_o may_v keep_v thy_o word_n 102_o nor_n from_o the_o judgement_n turn_v i_o shall_v for_o thou_o have_v teach_v i_o lord_n 103_o nothing_n sweet_a as_o thy_o word_n i_o taste_v no_o not_o the_o honey_n pure_a 104_o noonlight_n beam_n they_o on_o i_o cast_v all_o false_a way_n i_o abjure_v chap._n fourteen_o §._o 1._o a_o second_o exception_n i_o lay_v in_o against_o my_o argument_n be_v this_o at_o numb_a 32._o that_o such_o person_n as_o aforesaid_a tender_v themselves_o to_o receive_v can_v open_o at_o that_o time_n profess_v their_o reject_v christ_n because_o in_o the_o tender_a of_o themselves_o to_o this_o ordinance_n they_o offer_v to_o profess_v the_o contrary_a viz._n their_o own_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o that_o the_o case_n under_o our_o present_a consideration_n suppose_v he_o at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o he_o tender_v himself_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n to_o profess_v be_v ask_v against_o his_o own_n of_o christ_n q._n d._n i_o desire_v to_o do_v as_o other_o do_v in_o receive_v but_o i_o be_o resolve_v at_o present_a i_o will_v not_o submit_v to_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n nor_o part_n 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i_o believe_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v true_a yet_o i_o believe_v christ_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o socinian_n say_v i_o take_v he_o for_o my_o saviour_n and_o redeemer_n yet_o in_o a_o proper_a sense_n he_o never_o redeem_v i_o pay_v no_o price_n never_o be_v accurse_v sore_o i_o etc._n etc._n those_o mention_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o gospel_n matth._n 21.38_o say_v this_o be_v the_o heir_n come_v let_v we_o kill_v he_o they_o acknowledge_v he_o heir_n and_o so_o their_o lord_n and_o master_n and_o yet_o profess_v they_o will_v kill_v he_o be_v not_o here_o a_o contradiction_n in_o one_o breath_n profess_v agreeable_a to_o our_o present_a case_n §._o 3._o a_o three_o answer_n to_o this_o second_o exception_n i_o suggest_v thus_o at_o numb_a
at_o numb_a 35._o some_o may_v say_v that_o such_o a_o one_o shall_v be_v full_o excommunicate_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v at_o numb_a 36._o by_o hint_v some_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n which_o be_v strengthen_v and_o enlarge_v by_o the_o discourse_n concern_v excommunication_n and_o the_o degree_n thereof_o which_o we_o treat_v upon_o above_o chap._n 3_o but_o mr._n w._n count_v that_o labour_n impertinent_a it_o suffice_v he_o to_o confute_v all_o by_o say_v i_o prove_v not_o the_o case_n but_o only_o suppose_v it_o and_o so_o he_o proceed_v to_o the_o 4_o exception_n this_o reply_n of_o he_o have_v twice_o or_o thrice_o already_o occur_v and_o yet_o because_o mr._n w._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o solution_n of_o the_o first_o exception_n than_o pass_v it_o over_o with_o name_v it_o and_o promise_v to_o speak_v to_o it_o more_o full_o on_o the_o 4_o exception_n i_o have_v hitherto_o delay_v to_o confirm_v my_o argument_n against_o he_o but_o now_o look_v forward_o into_o his_o animadversion_n on_o the_o 4_o exception_n and_o find_v he_o speak_v little_a there_o close_o to_o this_o matter_n i_o shall_v here_o take_v occasion_n to_o make_v my_o defence_n in_o it_o but_o that_o may_v furnish_v another_o chapter_n psalm_n 119._o part_n 14._o o._n 105_o of_o all_o lamp_n thy_o word_n bright'_v do_v burn_v it_o be_v to_o my_o sit_fw-mi a_o light_n 106_o obey_v will_v i_o what_o i_o have_v swear_v to_o keep_v thy_o judgement_n right_a 107_o o_o lord_n affliction_n sore_o i_o sting_v by_o thy_o word_n quicken_a reach_n 108_o oh_o accept_v my_o prayse-offering_a and_o i_o thy_o judgement_n teach_v 109_o often_o my_o soulis_fw-la in_o my_o hand_n yet_o to_o thy_o law_n i_o cleave_v 110_o od'ous_a man_n seek_v to_o snare_v i_o and_o thy_o precept_n i_o will_v not_o leave_v 111_o of_o old_a my_o heritage_n have_v be_v thy_o law_n which_o gladness_n send_v 112_o order_v my_o heart_n be_v to_o walk_v in_o thy_o statute_n to_o the_o end_n chap._n xv._o §._o 1._o 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thing_n but_o not_o any_o where_o can_v i_o see_v he_o offer_v any_o reason_n of_o that_o his_o exception_n i_o shall_v now_o offer_v my_o reason_n against_o it_o if_o it_o be_v a_o valid_a exception_n against_o a_o argument_n which_o make_v supposition_n of_o the_o present_a case_n suppose_v to_o say_v that_o case_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v suppose_v it_o be_v either_o because_o the_o case_n suppose_v what_o be_v impossible_a or_o what_o never_o be_v be_v nor_o shall_v be_v existent_a or_o for_o some_o of_o these_o or_o some_o other_o reason_n but_o as_o i_o know_v no_o other_o reason_n to_o be_v pretend_v when_o i_o do_v it_o may_v be_v consider_v so_o these_o here_o enumerate_v be_v either_o not_o applicable_a to_o our_o present_a case_n or_o be_v not_o valid_a against_o it_o the_o first_o be_v not_o applicable_a to_o it_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a that_o a_o man_n who_o tender_v himself_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n shall_v profess_o in_o word_n renounce_v 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reason_n against_o our_o argument_n for_o we_o find_v in_o scripture_n arguing_n upon_o such_o thing_n or_o case_n suppose_v it_o be_v a_o rational_a observation_n which_o the_o learned_a amyraldus_n have_v specim_fw-la animadvers_fw-la special_a par_fw-fr 3._o erot_n 5._o licet_fw-la say_v he_o supponere_fw-la eum_fw-la esse_fw-la fidelem_fw-la i_o may_v say_v also_o infidelem_fw-la in_o the_o sense_n opposite_a to_o that_o wherein_o he_o there_o take_v fidelis_fw-la qui_fw-la actu_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la talis_fw-la neque_fw-la verô_o esse_fw-la potest_fw-la nam_fw-la &_o paulus_n supponit_fw-la justitiam_fw-la esse_fw-la per_fw-la legem_fw-la quod_fw-la falsum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la eâ_fw-la suppositione_n deduxit_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la mortuum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la est_fw-la adhuc_fw-la falsius_fw-la ut_fw-la ostenderet_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la long_o verissimum_fw-la justificationem_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la lege_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la 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admit_v notorious_a unclean_a person_n to_o baptism_n
solicitous_a about_o i_o as_o so_o pitiful_o in_o the_o interim_n to_o neglect_v his_o own_o §._o 6._o his_o five_o answer_n or_o reason_n against_o my_o foresay_a consequence_n be_v a_o mere_a fiction_n the_o product_n i_o think_v of_o a_o extravagant_a fancy_n and_o too_o fruitful_a a_o invention_n ratify_v and_o excite_v by_o a_o passionate_a heat_n i_o never_o say_v that_o former_a act_n of_o wickedness_n though_o amount_v to_o a_o reject_v of_o a_o essential_a of_o christianity_n nor_o yet_o word-rejecting_a of_o christ_n when_o retract_v by_o a_o visible_a repentance_n shall_v debar_v any_o from_o the_o sacrament_n they_o be_v then_o cancelld_v and_o blot_v out_o when_o repent_v of_o and_o be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v mention_v against_o the_o offender_n as_o cyprian_n say_v epist_n 55._o cornelio_n fratri_fw-la primus_fw-la foelicitatis_fw-la gradus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la delinquere_fw-la secundus_fw-la delicta_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la illic_fw-la currit_fw-la innocentia_fw-la integra_fw-la &_o illibata_fw-la quae_fw-la servet_fw-la hic_fw-la succedit_fw-la medela_fw-la quae_fw-la sanet_fw-la but_o as_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o argument_n i_o speak_v all_o along_o of_o a_o word-rejecting_a christ_n which_o a_o person_n be_v find_v in_o when_o he_o tender_v himself_o to_o communicate_v so_o here_o the_o deed_n reject_v of_o christ_n be_v such_o as_o he_o be_v then_o visible_o still_o guilty_a of_o which_o he_o be_v not_o when_o he_o have_v serious_o retract_v it_o by_o repentance_n and_o promise_n of_o reformation_n and_o yet_o where_o this_o gentleman_n be_v most_o amiss_a he_o be_v usual_o most_o confident_a and_o if_o i_o may_v use_v cheshire_n language_n threape_v i_o down_o thus_o p._n 104._o you_o can_v say_v i_o misconceive_v your_o meaning_n no_o by_o no_o mean_n if_o he_o say_v white_a be_v black_a he_o must_v not_o be_v contradict_v no_o not_o when_o he_o pretend_v to_o know_v my_o thought_n so_o infallible_a be_v he_o the_o seven_o hill_n 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durius_fw-la coercendos_fw-la nam_fw-la in_o poenis_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la ultima_fw-la est_fw-la excommunicatio_fw-la on_o this_o account_n i_o suppose_v it_o be_v that_o chrysostome_n so_o much_o and_o vehement_o warn_v minister_n that_o they_o admit_v not_o such_o as_o they_o know_v to_o be_v under_o gross_a wickedness_n to_o the_o lord_n table_n chrysostom_n hom._n 60._o ad_fw-la populum_fw-la antiochenum_fw-la de_fw-la sumentibus_fw-la indignus_fw-fr divina_fw-la &_o sancta_fw-la mysteria_fw-la let_v no_o cruel_a no_o unmerciful_a no_o impure_a one_o any_o way_n approach_n haec_fw-la tam_fw-la ad_fw-la vos_fw-la qui_fw-la communieatis_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la vos_fw-la qui_fw-la ministratis_fw-la dicta_fw-la esse_fw-la volo_fw-la no_o small_a punishment_n hang_v over_o your_o head_n if_o you_o suffer_v any_o one_o to_o partake_v of_o this_o table_n who_o you_o know_v under_o wickedness_n for_o his_o blood_n shall_v be_v require_v at_o your_o hand_n if_o a_o captain_n if_o 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sign_n of_o saul_n disobedience_n than_o his_o word-profession_n of_o obedience_n be_v to_o the_o contrary_n be_v not_o judas_n his_o betray_v christ_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o jew_n a_o more_o credible_a signifier_n of_o his_o treason_n than_o his_o good_a word_n hale_v master_n at_o the_o same_o time_n be_v of_o his_o dutiful_a submission_n and_o be_v it_o any_o uncharitableness_n in_o judge_v concern_v judas_n at_o this_o time_n to_o take_v in_o the_o cross-witnesse_n of_o his_o deed_n against_o his_o word_n one_o will_v think_v this_o matter_n be_v so_o plain_a there_o shall_v be_v no_o need_n of_o argument_n or_o instance_n to_o prove_v it_o 3._o if_o some_o deed_n of_o wickedness_n commit_v after_o the_o profession_n of_o godliness_n do_v evince_v that_o profession_n to_o have_v be_v false_a and_o so_o now_o not_o credible_a then_o some_o deed_n of_o wickedness_n commit_v and_o visible_o continue_v in_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o say_a profession_n do_v much_o more_o 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to_o officiate_v to_o a_o people_n upon_o their_o promise_v he_o a_o honourable_a maintenance_n i_o will_v willing_o know_v whether_o he_o will_v continue_v his_o pain_n among_o they_o upon_o condition_n of_o their_o promise_v he_o his_o salary_n though_o they_o do_v not_o pay_v it_o or_o upon_o the_o condition_n of_o their_o perform_v what_o they_o promise_v if_o their_o deed_n nonpayment_n be_v not_o to_o prevail_v against_o their_o word-paiment_n or_o verbal_a promise_n of_o payment_n a_o easy_a thing_n will_v content_v he_o but_o i_o be_o of_o opinion_n if_o they_o shall_v so_o abuse_v he_o he_o will_v tell_v they_o as_o well_o he_o may_v that_o their_o word-payment_n stand_v for_o nothing_o when_o contradict_v by_o their_o nonpayment_n in_o deed_n he_o will_v not_o take_v their_o be_v positive_o his_o paymaster_n sufficient_a to_o engage_v he_o while_o they_o be_v negative_o no_o paymaster_n to_o he_o if_o i_o may_v so_o use_v the_o distinction_n he_o lay_v so_o much_o weight_n upon_o in_o this_o controversy_n of_o positive_o believer_n which_o shall_v enright_a they_o to_o the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v negative_o unbeliever_n that_o be_v engage_v to_o believe_v though_o they_o do_v not_o i_o will_v conclude_v this_o with_o a_o passage_n of_o salvian_n de_fw-fr gubern_n dei_fw-la l._n 4._o p._n mihi_fw-la 143._o where_o speak_v how_o pagan_n be_v scandalize_v by_o the_o wicked_a life_n of_o such_o as_o profess_v themselves_o christian_n he_o add_v et_fw-la cur_n hoc_fw-la ita_fw-la cur_n utique_fw-la nisi_fw-la ob_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la christiani_n esse_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la &_o non_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la flagitia_fw-la as_o turpitudines_fw-la svas_fw-la nomen_fw-la religionis_fw-la infamant_fw-la qui_fw-la ut_fw-la scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la over_o fatentur_fw-la se_fw-la nosse_fw-la deum_fw-la factis_fw-la autem_fw-la negant_fw-la cum_fw-la sint_fw-la abominabiles_fw-la &_o increduli_fw-la ad_fw-la omne_fw-la autem_fw-la opus_fw-la bonum_fw-la reprobi_fw-la per_fw-la quos_fw-la ut_fw-la legimus_fw-la via_fw-la veritatis_fw-la blasphematur_fw-la etc._n etc._n psalm_n 119._o part._n 18._o s._n 137_o sure_o thou_o right'ous_a art_n o_o lord_n upright_o thy_o judgement_n be_v 138_o so_o be_v the_o statute_n of_o thy_o word_n all_o faithful_a right_a and_o rare_a 139_o sharp_a zeal_n consume_v and_o cut_v i_o sore_o when_o foe_n thy_o word_n forget_v 140_o solely_n pure_a be_v thy_o word_n therefore_o my_o soul_n so_o love_v it_o 141_o small_a though_o i_o be_o and_o scorn_v i_o cast_v not_o thy_o will_n out_o of_o mind_n 142_o stable_a thy_o righteousness_n do_v last_o thy_o law_n the_o truth_n i_o find_v 143_o surprise_v i_o be_o with_o grief_n and_o pain_n thy_o command_n i_o delight_n 144_o settle_a thy_o just_a law_n aye_o remain_v give_v i_o truth_n be_v live_v light_n chap._n xix_o §._o 1._o another_o reason_n my_o paper_n add_v at_o numb_a 46._o which_o mr._n w._n set_v down_o p._n 108._o and_o it_o be_v 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mr._n w._n have_v to_o produce_v against_o it_o indeed_o if_o a_o disputation_n be_v to_o be_v manage_v in_o the_o passionate_a mood_n and_o the_o crabbed_a figure_n such_o as_o the_o pythagorean_n account_v the_o number_n 2._o he_o be_v hard_a enough_o for_o any_o man_n i_o know_v unless_o the_o quaker_n may_v go_v near_o to_o match_v he_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o dare_v not_o vie_v scoff_v irony_n i_o can_v digest_v well_o enough_o nor_o foul_a language_n nor_o falsehood_n with_o he_o if_o this_o be_v the_o victory_n he_o seek_v he_o may_v take_v it_o for_o i_o but_o it_o may_v be_v the_o reader_n who_o have_v not_o see_v his_o book_n will_v hardly_o believe_v so_o many_o page_n shall_v be_v blot_v with_o such_o stuff_n but_o will_v expect_v i_o shall_v give_v he_o a_o more_o particular_a account_n of_o they_o i_o be_o sorry_a so_o to_o spend_v time_n yet_o if_o it_o will_v not_o be_v help_v i_o must_v be_v content_a and_o he_o also_o 1._o at_o p._n 109._o he_o tell_v we_o in_o 8_o 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parent_n appear_v cordial_o to_o rejoice_v in_o the_o towardliness_n and_o godliness_n of_o his_o child_n etc._n etc._n and_o then_o according_a to_o the_o foresay_a position_n of_o this_o accurate_a and_o pious_a author_n the_o child_n of_o such_o a_o wicked_a parent_n may_v be_v admit_v to_o enter_v and_o therefore_o to_o seal_v his_o entrance_n into_o covenant_n with_o god_n in_o baptism_n he_o consent_v understand_o for_o he_o upon_o gospel_n term_n who_o he_o be_v and_o in_o who_o will_n the_o child_n will_n be_v interpretative_o involve_v yet_o because_o the_o scandalousnes_n of_o the_o say_a parent_n give_v just_a occasion_n to_o the_o church_n of_o suspicion_n fear_n and_o jealousy_n lest_o he_o shall_v alter_v his_o will_n and_o desire_v now_o signify_v to_o have_v his_o child_n true_o a_o christian_n and_o godly_a and_o so_o fail_v in_o use_v necessary_a mean_n for_o his_o child_n instruction_n during_o its_o nonage_n in_o the_o christian_a faith_n it_o be_v but_o equitable_a 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special_a reference_n to_o this_o point_n and_o therefore_o i_o think_v the_o less_o may_v serve_v to_o note_v concern_v it_o in_o my_o reply_n unto_o he_o psalm_n 119._o part_n 19_o t._n 145_o this_o whole_a heart_n cry_v to_o thou_o lord_n hear_v thy_o statute_n i_o will_v fulfil_v 146_o to_o thou_o i_o call_v save_v i_o most_o dear_a thy_o hest_n i_o shall_v keep_v still_o 147_o the_o daybreak_n my_o cry_n do_v prevent_v trust_v thy_o word_n i_o wait_v 148_o the_o night_n too_o my_o eye_n be_v intent_n thy_o truth_n to_o meditate_v 149_o to_o my_o voice_n hark_v in_o kindness_n true_a thy_o judgement_n quicken_v i_o 150_o they_o draw_v nigh_o who_o mischief_n pursue_v far_o from_o thy_o law_n they_o be_v 151_o thou_o lord_n be_v near_o and_o very_o true_a be_v thy_o commandment_n sure_a 152_o thy_o hest_n thou_o have_v of_o old_a i_o know_v found_v aye_o to_o endure_v chap._n xx._n §._o 1._o i_o shall_v now_o proceed_v to_o what_o remain_v 3_o in_o the_o next_o place_n mr._n w._n answer_v my_o forementioned_a reason_n to_o this_o purpose_n p._n 110_o 111._o if_o the_o man_n suppose_v in_o the_o case_n come_v and_o desire_v to_o communicate_v and_o that_o earnest_o this_o mr._n w._n say_v be_v right_o affirm_v by_o my_o antagonist_n to_o be_v a_o testimony_n of_o his_o seriousness_n which_o we_o may_v not_o upon_o his_o profession_n thereof_o refuse_v to_o believe_v and_o this_o mr._n w._n prove_v in_o these_o word_n for_o sir_n if_o you_o grant_v the_o case_n viz._n that_o he_o desire_v to_o communicate_v and_o that_o earnest_o then_o show_v a_o reason_n if_o you_o can_v why_o all_o godly_a mind_a christian_n shall_v not_o in_o charity_n believe_v upon_o his_o profession_n hereof_o that_o this_o be_v to_o we_o in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la a_o credible_a testimony_n of_o his_o seriousness_n nay_o you_o add_v moreover_o that_o who_o make_v a_o credible_a serious_a profession_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o willingness_n to_o submit_v to_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o excommunicate_v nay_o you_o add_v doubtless_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o and_o we_o add_v that_o doubtless_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o to_o deny_v such_o a_o one_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o suspend_v he_o from_o it_o what_o a_o schism_n will_v do_v we_o know_v not_o etc._n etc._n the_o reader_n may_v be_v please_v to_o bear_v in_o memory_n that_o after_o i_o have_v evince_v that_o a_o man_n baptize_v at_o year_n and_o not_o full_o excommunicate_v may_v be_v debar_v the_o sacrament_n if_o at_o the_o time_n when_o he_o tender_v himself_o to_o be_v admit_v when_o the_o time_n of_o celebration_n begin_v to_o draw_v near_o he_o in_o word_n renounce_v christ_n or_o a_o essential_a of_o christianity_n which_o be_v not_o that_o i_o find_v deny_v by_o mr._n w._n in_o the_o procedure_n of_o my_o argument_n i_o add_v that_o if_o such_o word_n reject_v of_o christ_n as_o before-said_a may_v debar_v the_o person_n aforesaid_a than_o some_o 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be_v excommunicate_v for_o than_o one_o in_o the_o way_n of_o a_o visible_a exercise_n of_o faith_n and_o true_a repentance_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v which_o none_o sure_o will_v affirm_v and_o this_o consequence_n i_o can_v see_v that_o mr._n w._n stick_v at_o but_o now_o whereas_o i_o shall_v assume_v but_o some_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v for_o sinful_a deed_n notwithstanding_o that_o in_o word_n they_o renounce_v not_o christ_n but_o verbal_o profess_v their_o carne_a desire_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n this_o i_o think_v mr._n w._n deny_v i_o be_o not_o certain_a look_v over_o his_o word_n thyself_o reader_n and_o use_v thy_o own_o judgement_n to_o guess_v what_o he_o drive_v at_o but_o this_o i_o be_o certain_a of_o either_o he_o deny_v this_o or_o he_o say_v nothing_o of_o a_o contradictory_n tendency_n to_o my_o argumentation_n which_o here_o he_o pretend_v to_o enervate_v and_o if_o he_o do_v deny_v the_o foresay_a assumption_n as_o i_o conceive_v his_o 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appear_v to_o be_v of_o a_o right_a faith_n and_o doctrinal_o true_a believer_n and_o again_o say_v he_o p._n 61._o by_o our_o administration_n to_o believer_n be_v mean_v such_o believer_n as_o we_o may_v have_v a_o certainty_n that_o they_o be_v believer_n now_o if_o we_o must_v know_v they_o to_o be_v believer_n by_o hear_v they_o say_v the_o creed_n and_o testify_v their_o belief_n of_o every_o article_n therein_o before_o we_o can_v have_v a_o certainty_n they_o be_v believer_n capable_a of_o admission_n to_o the_o supper_n then_o they_o must_v give_v a_o understanding_n visible_a account_v of_o their_o faith_n in_o order_n to_o their_o admission_n their_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o infancy_n be_v no_o demonstration_n and_o less_o than_o demonstration_n will_v not_o serve_v for_o the_o infallible_a certainty_n mr._n w._n require_v of_o their_o personal_a doctrinal_a faith_n this_o doctrinal_a faith_n they_o can_v be_v expect_v to_o have_v without_o instruction_n precede_v and_o 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