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A38981 An Examination of the impartial state of the case of the Earl of Danby in a letter to a member of the House of Commons. 1680 (1680) Wing E3727; ESTC R5161 24,243 38

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the growth of the French Interest and Power was nourisht in the time of this Lords Power and Inclination let it be fairly Examined what Proceedings here could most favour their growing Interest I will presume then to assert That nothing could contribute more to it than all means used to hinder the Parliaments engaging the King according to their judgment and probably since it appeared that notwithstanding all opposition by Debates and displeasure shewed to some of the Addresses they rather grew more warm than cooler in the pursuit what was left but frequent Prorogations and Adjournments to divert the weighty Stream of the Parliament from running with unresistible violence against the French Interest Mr. Coleman was of this opinion as plainly appears in his long Letter where he saies that it was their dependancy on the Parliament that encouraged the Confederates to continue the War and that their Dissolution would break all their Measures and there says that the good Father he writ to before so concurred in his Politiques that he assured him the King of France would assist it with his Power and Purse Colemans Tryal pag. 40. and a little after gives an Account of the useful Prorogation to the 13th of April being to a day so high in the Spring that the thrifty Monsieur Rovigny thought would put the Confederates beyond their Measures Page 48. and it appears this Lord concurr'd also in their Politiques that a Prorogation or Adjournment was ever a help at a Pinch for in his Letter to Mr. Mountague dated the 7th of Jan. 77 8. he says That the principal cause of the Adjournment for Thirteen days was to see if an Expedient for Peace might be found in that time and the effect of the Adjournment hath hitherto been that no body will believe other than that the Peace is already Concluded betwixt us and France I will not here set down the frequent Adjournments and Prorogations that were made but onely observe they kept pace with the Success of the French and were most frequent when they were most prosperous and that this hapned in the years 77 and 78. when the Power and Inclination was boasted of and in the same years the French grew so enlarged with Success that it is improbable any but the Concerned Party should immediately affirm that this Lords proceedings tended to the diminishing the French Interest in his time Since then the contrary so clearly appears That in this Lords time the French Interest grew so enlarged I hope it will seem more proper to give the words their true application and to say If it thus increas'd it will be hard to find who else there was near His Majesty who had power and inclination to do it I come now to the last great particular of this Lords Proceedings towards the diminishing the French Interest viz. The Letter which was produced to the House of Commons and hastned or rather necessitated by this Lords Power and Inclination for 't were hard to find any other about His Majesty that could or would have endeavoured to have Mr. Mountagues Cabinets so violently seized and had he believed as his Impartial Friend affirms That the Letter might justly have born a wise and useful Construction both to the King and Kingdom he would not by so unusual a violence have implyed a guilt in his own opinion which is confirmed by that Secresie he enjoyns the Embassadour to use in the Negotiation for fear of giving offence at home I will here continue my Method not to delay upon arguing Particulars and Circumstances where the right judgment must be drawn from the general which is the subject matter it self as that Mr. Montague confesses great Honour in this Lord and that by a Letter to the King himself says That the Earl of Danby might have had more than ever he got by being Lord Treasurer if he would have prevailed with the King to agree to the Propositions of the French King and a little after cryes That if the Ministers intended the setting up an Arbitrary Power at home they would certainly neither have disobliged the French King as they have done nor refused his Money What Character Mr. Mountague gives this Lord in former Letters or what opinion the French had of him was onely lyable to a Reflection made by a Member of the House of Commons when the Letters were read That if the French had an apprehension that this Lord was not once their Friend he was confident his own Letters shewed that they had reason now to have a kinder opinion of him What the Letter to the King himself was how my Lord of Danby might have got Money we know not but it appears by his Letter now that Money would have been accepted but for the last Assertion That the Ministers had disobliged the French needs no confutation but what has been said of the whole course of things which I fear they will never be so just to repay England by Counsels as weak as those which so much contributed to their Successes From these Arguments he concludes That it would puzzle the most uncharitable Censurer to find another cause than their unwillingness to enslave their Country why Money from the French was refused If this be a good consequence That to accept French Money is to enslave the Nation I hope it follows that the Sum of Six Millions of Livres yearly to be paid for three years and offered to be accepted was for the same purpose The last Evidences instead of Coffee-houses is now offered from Gazettes and the Dutchess of Mazarines Lodgings the first declares the ill-will the French had for this Lord and the other being a place where the present French Ambassadour is apt to speak more freely he used such Discourses as would convince any man c. If the French Gazettes gave such an Account of him 't is answered as the other was That they had no such occasion now and for the other proof I have heard that the Dutchess of Mazarines Chamber has been more used to the free Discourses of the Confederate Ministers than the French Embassadours But among these weighty Arguments and Evidences I wonder 't is omitted that this Lord drunk a Confusion to the French at the late Bishop of Canterbury's house at dinner and I think it as full and cogent as most of the others But I am now brought close to the matter by being desired to observe four things First That the Propositions sent was onely a Copy of what Mr. Montague was to receive from the Secretary so that the thing it self was no Secret to them This Argument seems very strange because the Secretaries knew of the Propositions for the Peace which was likewise known to the Forreign Ministers Ergo the treating for so much Money for three years to beget a right temper in Parliaments was no Secret to them neither though enjoyn'd to be so especially to the Secretary The Logick would be as good to conclude That