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A03590 Of the lavves of ecclesiasticall politie eight bookes. By Richard Hooker.; Ecclesiastical polity. Books 1-4 Hooker, Richard, 1553 or 4-1600.; Spenser, John, 1559-1614. 1604 (1604) STC 13713; ESTC S120914 286,221 214

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