Selected quad for the lemma: judgement_n
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A09880
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A consideration of the depriued and silenced ministers arguments, for their restitution to the vse and libertie of their ministerie exhibited in their late supplication, vnto the honorable states assembled in this present Parliament. By Gabriel Powel.
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Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.
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STC 20142; ESTC S120763
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honour_n but_o to_o speak_v for_o they_o unto_o his_o excellent_a majesty_n which_o proposition_n they_o have_v labour_v to_o enforce_v by_o sundry_a argument_n but_o how_o happy_o &_o with_o what_o success_n your_o wisdom_n can_v best_o judge_v now_o they_o urge_v that_o it_o will_v please_v your_o honourable_a court_n to_o determine_v somewhat_o in_o their_o behalf_n and_o actual_o to_o decree_n that_o they_o may_v be_v restore_v and_o not_o far_o molest_v how_o singular_o or_o factious_o soever_o they_o shall_v behave_v themselves_o in_o their_o place_n neither_o will_v i_o reprove_v my_o brethren_n for_o disloial_a presumption_n in_o solicit_v your_o honourable_a assembly_n absolute_o to_o determine_v any_o thing_n herein_o which_o they_o know_v his_o majesty_n will_v not_o condescend_v unto_o see_v it_o may_v be_v they_o comprehend_v his_o highness_n under_o the_o general_a term_n of_o court_n of_o parliament_n but_o will_v i_o brief_o answer_v the_o argument_n to_o the_o consequence_n 1._o the_o consequence_n have_v two_o part_n i._o that_o the_o honourable_a court_n of_o parliament_n be_v to_o execute_v justice_n &_o judgement_n which_o i_o grant_v il._n that_o they_o ought_v to_o deliver_v &_o restore_v the_o refractory_a minister_n that_o rest_v to_o be_v prove_v still_o because_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o justify_v their_o cause_n and_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v unjust_o oppress_v nor_o can_v ever_o do_v the_o suppliants_z instance_n it_o be_v abundant_o of_o late_a prove_v that_o all_o the_o late_a proceed_n against_o minister_n in_o repress_v of_o their_o ministry_n and_o in_o deprive_v they_o of_o their_o freeholdes_a be_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n both_o to_o charta_fw-la magna_fw-la and_o also_o to_o many_o statute_n the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o oath_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la of_o many_o of_o the_o late_a canon_n and_o other_o thing_n i_o answer_v 1._o touch_v he_o that_o the_o suppliant_n say_v 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judicial_a act_n of_o deprivation_n of_o bishop_n priest_n minister_n from_o their_o benefice_n etc._n etc._n since_o the_o conquest_n to_o the_o time_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o since_o that_o to_o this_o age_n be_v ever_o hold_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n and_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la iii_o quaere_fw-la whether_o any_o judge_n of_o this_o realm_n or_o any_o chief_a officer_n learn_v in_o the_o law_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o such_o sentence_n of_o deprivation_n as_o have_v late_o pass_v in_o due_a form_n in_o any_o ecclesiastical_a court_n be_v contrary_a to_o any_o much_o less_o to_o many_o statute_n clear_v a_o place_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la allege_v by_o the_o suppliant_n clear_v 3._o but_o howsoever_o the_o suppliant_n pretend_v magna_n charta_fw-la cap._n 29._o for_o this_o be_v the_o place_n they_o aim_v at_o as_o i_o think_v where_o it_o be_v say_v no_o free_a man_n shall_v be_v take_v or_o imprison_v or_o be_v disseise_v of_o his_o freehold_n or_o liberty_n etc._n etc._n we_o shall_v not_o pass_v upon_o he_o nor_o condemn_v he_o but_o by_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n or_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n who_o have_v but_o half_o a_o eye_n do_v not_o evident_o see_v that_o they_o will_v not_o only_o weaken_v but_o also_o subvert_v and_o utter_o overthrow_v the_o whole_a jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a the_o sentence_n and_o grave_a determination_n whereof_o be_v never_o yet_o in_o any_o age_n or_o country_n submit_v to_o popular_a trial_n by_o the_o judgement_n of_o peer_n that_o be_v by_o a_o jury_n as_o indeed_o their_o new_a discipline_n and_o presbytery_n can_v stand_v but_o by_o such_o popular_a trial_n and_o assistance_n 4._o yet_o i_o answer_v i._o the_o place_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la can_v be_v understand_v of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n or_o the_o practice_n thereof_o special_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o end_n why_o that_o law_n be_v make_v or_o the_o time_n when_o the_o end_n be_v this_o that_o the_o king_n of_o this_o realm_n shall_v not_o challenge_v a_o infinite_a and_o absolute_a power_n to_o themselves_o as_o some_o king_n elsewhere_o do_v and_o yet_o do_v without_o judgement_n and_o lawful_a proceed_n to_o take_v away_o any_o man_n liberty_n life_n country_n good_n or_o land_n and_o it_o be_v at_o such_o time_n when_o the_o king_n themselves_o think_v that_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a be_v not_o in_o right_a no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v in_o fact_n at_o that_o time_n belong_v unto_o the_o crown_n therefore_o in_o that_o it_o be_v there_o say_v we_o will_v not_o pass_v upon_o he_o nor_o condemn_v he_o but_o by_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n or_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o word_n have_v no_o relation_n to_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a for_o that_o which_o be_v do_v by_o that_o jurisdiction_n be_v not_o at_o that_o time_n take_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o king_n or_o by_o his_o authority_n and_o the_o law_n which_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n practise_v be_v not_o then_o hold_v to_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n or_o the_o king_n law_n as_o since_o the_o lawful_a and_o necessary_a restitution_n of_o the_o ancient_a right_n in_o that_o behalf_n to_o the_o crown_n they_o be_v often_o call_v the_o king_n or_o queen_n ecclesiastical_a law_n 1._o elizab._n cap._n 2._o &_o alibi_fw-la passim_fw-la etc._n bishop_n may_v deprive_v etc._n etc._n ii_o as_o institution_n unto_o a_o benefice_n both_o before_o and_o after_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la belong_v always_o to_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o jurisdiction_n so_o do_v also_o the_o destitution_n or_o deprivation_n of_o a_o benefice_n by_o the_o common_a law_n for_o cvius_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la eius_fw-la est_fw-la destituere_fw-la in_o which_o respect_n bishop_n that_o claim_v not_o the_o patronage_n do_v always_o plead_v to_o a_o quare_fw-la impedit_fw-la thus_o nihil_fw-la clamat_fw-la praeter_fw-la institutionem_fw-la &_o destitutionem_fw-la clericorum_fw-la ut_fw-la ordinarius_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereby_o may_v appear_v that_o a_o man_n may_v by_o law_n be_v put_v out_o of_o his_o benefice_n be_v his_o freehold_n otherwise_o then_o according_a unto_o the_o form_n of_o that_o statute_n iii_o a_o ordinary_a in_o his_o diocese_n even_o at_o the_o common_a law_n might_n and_o may_v condemn_v a_o man_n for_o heresy_n whereupon_o be_v commit_v to_o secular_a power_n such_o a_o heretic_n be_v put_v to_o death_n but_o this_o be_v not_o do_v by_o judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n and_o therefore_o those_o word_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la be_v no_o way_n to_o be_v understand_v of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n iv_o beside_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o man_n peer_n there_o be_v add_v or_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n which_o permit_v other_o trial_n then_o by_o peer_n as_o by_o battle_n etc._n etc._n v._o and_o now_o see_v all_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n in_o this_o realm_n aswell_o ecclesiastical_a as_o temporal_a be_v ever_o in_o right_a but_o now_o be_v absolute_o acknowledge_v and_o be_v in_o fact_n unite_a and_o incorporate_v unto_o the_o crown_n of_o this_o realm_n therefore_o that_o judgement_n that_o be_v due_o give_v by_o the_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a be_v give_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n and_o so_o not_o contrary_a unto_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la 5._o as_o touch_v those_o many_o other_o statute_n if_o the_o suppliant_n have_v allege_v or_o point_v at_o they_o they_o shall_v have_v receive_v their_o answer_n in_o like_a manner_n lawful_a deprivation_n adjudge_v lawful_a 6._o brief_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o deprivation_n of_o the_o refractory_a minister_n be_v a_o plain_a case_n adjudge_v in_o open_a court_n as_o appeareth_z in_o sir_n edward_n cook_n report_n part_n 5._o in_o caudreies_n case_n according_a unto_o a_o statute_n of_o 1._o elizab._n cap._n 2._o in_o these_o word_n be_v it_o ordain_v and_o enact_v by_o the_o authority_n aforesaid_a that_o all_o
a_o consideration_n of_o the_o deprive_v and_o silence_v minister_n argument_n for_o their_o restitution_n to_o the_o use_n and_o liberty_n of_o their_o ministry_n exhibit_v in_o their_o late_a supplication_n unto_o the_o honourable_a state_n assemble_v in_o this_o present_a parliament_n by_o gabriel_n powel_n genes_n 13.8_o let_v there_o be_v no_o strife_n i_o pray_v thou_o between_o thou_o and_o i_o for_o we_o be_v brother_n at_o london_n print_v by_o g._n elder_n for_o thomas_n adam_n 1606._o to_o the_o right_n honourable_a the_o lord_n spiritual_a and_o temporal_a the_o knight_n citizen_n and_o burgess_n of_o the_o high_a court_n of_o parliament_n whereas_o the_o solon_n or_o rather_o the_o solomon_n of_o this_o age_n and_o monarchy_n our_o most_o gracious_a and_o peerless_a sovereign_n have_v according_a unto_o his_o singular_a wisdom_n and_o sincerity_n of_o heart_n by_o all_o good_a mean_n labour_v the_o reformation_n as_o of_o all_o his_o subject_n in_o general_a which_o 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public_a sermon_n and_o writing_n as_o also_o in_o a_o late_a supplicatorie_a pamphlet_n direct_v unto_o your_o grave_a wisdom_n wherein_o the_o auctor_fw-la be_v not_o afraid_a to_o persuade_v and_o provoke_v your_o honourable_a court_n these_o be_v his_o own_o word_n to_o intercede_v with_o his_o majesty_n that_o he_o will_v compel_v the_o reverend_a prelate_n of_o this_o church_n to_o surcease_v their_o rigorous_a and_o cruel_a deal_n who_o have_v sober_o and_o temperate_o carry_v themselves_o in_o the_o execution_n of_o such_o decree_n and_o sentence_n upon_o they_o as_o their_o obstinate_a superstition_n have_v worthy_o make_v they_o subject_a unto_o by_o which_o boldness_n he_o take_v occasion_n so_o to_o complain_v and_o cry_v out_o as_o if_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n jesus_n be_v banish_v out_o of_o this_o kingdom_n god_n worship_n profane_o adulterate_v and_o our_o whole_a ministry_n strange_o corrupt_v to_o the_o eternal_a perdition_n and_o destruction_n of_o many_o thousand_o soul_n which_o grievous_a complaint_n see_v it_o can_v be_v unknown_a to_o any_o that_o live_v within_o these_o dominion_n to_o be_v utter_o unjust_a &_o untrue_a i_o can_v but_o wonder_v with_o what_o face_n he_o can_v once_o dare_v to_o present_v it_o to_o the_o most_o reverend_a senate_n of_o your_o most_o honourable_a and_o judicious_a court._n for_o howsoever_o he_o may_v persuade_v himself_o that_o some_o prejudicate_a person_n will_v affect_v his_o cause_n and_o embrace_v his_o accusation_n yet_o can_v he_o never_o have_v the_o least_o hope_n so_o to_o abuse_v your_o wisdom_n who_o of_o your_o own_o knowledge_n be_v able_a to_o convince_v he_o of_o malepert_a sycophancie_n and_o manifest_a untruth_n notwithstanding_o all_o which_o this_o auctor_fw-la fear_v no_o rebuke_n or_o shame_n for_o his_o unconscionable_a deal_n as_o speak_v from_o cimmerian_a darkness_n by_o conceal_v his_o name_n be_v enbolden_v to_o offer_v it_o even_o unto_o your_o honour_n to_o provoke_v you_o to_o become_v suppliant_n and_o suster_n unto_o his_o excellent_a majesty_n in_o behalf_n of_o their_o cause_n or_o else_o at_o length_n to_o determine_v of_o it_o yourselves_o before_o you_o dissolve_v your_o meeting_n this_o discourse_n such_o as_o it_o be_v i_o be_v command_v by_o some_o in_o authority_n to_o peruse_v &_o brief_o to_o refute_v which_o i_o confess_v at_o first_o i_o be_v very_o unwilling_a to_o take_v upon_o i_o notwithstanding_o i_o see_v the_o great_a advantage_n i_o shall_v have_v of_o my_o brother_n in_o the_o defence_n and_o maintenance_n of_o a_o most_o just_a and_o holy_a quarrel_n for_o beside_o that_o i_o be_v exceed_v loath_a to_o intermeddle_v in_o these_o domestical_a controversy_n and_o indeed_o as_o abram_n say_v unto_o lot_n gen._n 13.8_o why_o shall_v there_o be_v strife_n between_o they_o and_o we_o for_o we_o be_v brethren_n i_o see_v many_o excellent_a wit_n sit_v quiet_o at_o their_o study_n be_v better_o furnish_v and_o more_o able_a to_o deal_v in_o these_o case_n than_o myself_o who_o come_v so_o far_o behind_o they_o in_o all_o sufficiency_n for_o this_o purposse_v and_o special_o weigh_v my_o own_o weakness_n i_o just_o fear_v to_o practice_v this_o kind_n of_o plead_v in_o so_o high_a a_o court_n and_o before_o such_o judge_n who_o wisdom_n can_v so_o easy_o discern_v any_o which_o come_v before_o they_o but_o on_o the_o other_o side_n when_o i_o have_v thorough_o weigh_v the_o equity_n of_o the_o cause_n the_o quality_n of_o my_o vocation_n the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o duty_n of_o obey_v the_o authority_n whereby_o i_o have_v be_v enjoin_v this_o task_n i_o present_o resolve_v with_o myself_o to_o stand_v in_o the_o gap_n and_o breach_n between_o our_o brother_n and_o we_o and_o according_a to_o my_o poor_a ability_n ability_n to_o perform_v a_o service_n so_o just_a holy_a dutiful_a and_o necessary_a albeit_o i_o know_v my_o brethren_n affection_n to_o be_v somewhat_o unkind_a and_o their_o pen_n foul_a and_o shameless_a but_o see_v it_o lie_v not_o in_o our_o power_n to_o make_v they_o modest_a and_o peaceable_a and_o that_o we_o be_v call_v to_o serve_v god_n and_o his_o church_n which_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o do_v in_o good_a and_o evil_a report_n in_o honour_n and_o dishonour_n in_o wealth_n &_o woe_n in_o life_n and_o death_n i_o willing_o forgive_v they_o any_o injury_n that_o may_v be_v do_v unto_o i_o for_o this_o cause_n and_o pray_v our_o heavenly_a father_n that_o of_o his_o infinite_a mercy_n and_o love_n in_o jesus_n christ_n he_o will_v not_o impute_v it_o unto_o they_o so_o be_v satisfy_v of_o all_o scruple_n concern_v this_o matter_n and_o know_v no_o sufficient_a cause_n to_o the_o contrary_a or_o other_o impediment_n to_o stay_v my_o course_n i_o have_v not_o withdraw_v myself_o no_o not_o for_o the_o estimation_n and_o reverence_n i_o must_v needs_o have_v of_o the_o grave_a judgement_n of_o your_o honour_n which_o i_o see_v i_o can_v not_o escape_v but_o have_v deem_v this_o defence_n to_o be_v my_o most_o bind_a duty_n to_o almighty_a god_n to_o his_o excellent_a majesty_n to_o your_o honourable_a court_n and_o to_o this_o whole_a church_n &_o state_n wherefore_o i_o have_v presume_v by_o your_o honourable_a leave_n and_o favour_n to_o maintain_v against_o this_o plaintiff_n to_o my_o small_a power_n the_o glory_n of_o god_n in_o the_o just_a defence_n of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o reverend_a prelate_n in_o their_o most_o lawful_a proceed_n against_o such_o as_o by_o their_o schism_n and_o faction_n disturb_z the_o quietness_n both_o of_o our_o church_n and_o commonweal_n thus_o have_v in_o all_o submission_n and_o humility_n render_v some_o reason_n of_o this_o my_o do_v unto_o your_o high_a and_o honourable_a court_n i_o come_v now_o to_o join_v issue_n with_o my_o antagonist_n not_o doubt_v but_o that_o your_o honour_n according_a unto_o your_o rare_a wisdom_n and_o special_a love_n unto_o justice_n as_o you_o do_v in_o all_o other_o cause_n depend_v among_o brethren_n so_o in_o this_o will_v give_v equal_a hear_n unto_o both_o party_n and_o without_o partiality_n and_o prejudicate_a affection_n will_v judge_v righteous_a judgement_n that_o be_v simple_o &_o absolute_o according_a unto_o the_o truth_n the_o title_n of_o the_o supplication_n â§_o certain_a argument_n to_o persuade_v and_o provoke_v the_o most_o honourable_a and_o high_a court_n of_o parliament_n now_o assemble_v and_o also_o all_o other_o in_o any_o high_a authority_n or_o in_o any_o grace_n and_o credit_n with_o they_o that_o be_v in_o high_a authority_n to_o promote_v and_o advance_v the_o sincere_a ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o also_o zealous_o to_o speak_v for_o the_o minister_n thereof_o now_o degrade_v deprive_v silence_v or_o admonish_v or_o afterward_o like_a to_o be_v call_v into_o question_n for_o subscription_n ceremony_n strict_a observation_n of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n or_o for_o other_o