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A91191 A full vindication and ansvver of the XI. accused members; viz. Denzill Holles, Esq; Sir Philip Stapleton, Sir William Lewis, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir William Waller, Sir Iohn Maynard Kts Major Gen. Massey, Iohn Glynne Esq; Recorder of London. Walter Long Esquire Col. Edward Harley, Anthony Nichols Esq to a late printed pamphlet intituled, A particular charge or impeachment, in the name of Sir Thomas Fairfax and the army under his command; against the said members, by his appointment and the Councel of War. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1647 (1647) Wing P3968; Thomason E398_17; ESTC R201693 28,820 49

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Ormond who seemed to be much troubled that the treaty took no effect professing the only cause thereof to be the want of the Kings assent which he said he hoped to gain desiring to have it so presented to the Parlia that he might acquaint the Parliament and the Commissioners then going for Be●fast with the Kings Answer and lest letters should be intercepted by the Rebels there was a Cipher agreed on which was known to severall of the Commissioners when it was delivered and of which the said Sir Iohn minded the other Commissioners at Belfast after their arrivall there and before any thing was written by the same from the Lo. of Or●mond And about a fortnight afterwards the Lord of Ormond by the meanes of one Captain Ward conveyed a little open paper in cypher directed to the said Sir Iohn Clotworthy who assoon as he received it did communicate the same to the rest of the Commissioners which being discyphered there was thereby intimated That he was more then hopefull they should shortly beare from him to their content To which the Commissioners returned an answer That they should be glad to beare of the content he was hopefull to give With all which and the other transactions of tha● affair the Committee of Der●y-House were made acquainted and reported the same to both houses before Sir Iohn Clotworthy came out of Ireland And the Houses having approved of the carriage and endeavours of the Commissioners upon the whole transaction of the busines have long since so far owned them there 〈…〉 they have given thankes unto them for the same This being the only particular wherein the said Sir Iohn Clotworthy is by this article charged to have held intelligence with the Lord of Ormond and that being by the advice of the rest of the Commissioners in manner as aforesaid and for so good an end as the giving his Lordship an opportunity of new application to the Parliament for rendring to them the City of Dublin and the other garrisons under his command which hath since that 〈◊〉 taken effect accordingly to the exceeding great advantage and strengthning this Kingdoms interest in Ireland the said Sir Iohn Clotworthy leaves it to the judgment of all equall minded men whether or no there be any just cause to exhibit such a th●● against him for the same especially by an Army pretending such good affections to Irelands welfare For the other part of the said Article concerning the said 〈◊〉 John Clotwortheys holding intelligence with the Lord Digby He directly denieth any such thing as being utterly false and untrue For he never saw the said Lord Digby these many yeare 〈◊〉 one night accidentally when being last at Dublin with the other Commissioners afore said he was sent to the Castle of Dub●●● by the said Commissioners concerning an Officer of Colo●● Moores that had received an Injury by some persons that rel●ted to the Lord of Ormond at which time the said Lord Digby came into the roome where he was but he had no discourse 〈◊〉 him in private nor at all other then common talk severall person● being present Neither hath the said Sir Iohn Clotworthy 〈◊〉 the said Lord Digby deserted the Parliament ever exchanged letter Message or word with him directly or indirectly otherwise or at any other time then is hereby declared And whereas by this Article it is charged that in Order to 〈◊〉 secret intelligence of which he admires a whole 〈…〉 England should have such certain and publique Notice as to 〈◊〉 it a positive charg undertake to prove it upon oath were it●●●cret as they charg it as the Article all ●geth to have hi● hold by 〈◊〉 said Sir Io. Clotworthy with the said Lo. Digby the Lo of 〈◊〉 and the said Lord Digby ●●tely imployed 〈◊〉 S●●gsby who as the article saith pretends a designe about the Prince to c●me into this Kingdome the said Sir Iohn Clotworthy utterly denieth to have had any thought of any such designe or any knowledg of the said Slingsby or of his comeing into the kingdome until he heard that one Slingsby whom he yet knoweth not had been examined before the Committee at Derby house And the said Sir Iohn presumeth he hath to the said Committee confessed who imployed him and to whom he was imployed here TO the 14. which charges Sir Iohn Clotworthy Mr. H●lles and Sir Philip Stapleton with obstructing Articles exhibited against the Lord Inchequin calling back the Lord Lisle from the government of Ireland causing the command of the forces in that Kingdom to be committed to the Lord Inchequin he writing a letter to his Lordship upon the receipt whereof he should express he had direction to put out all those who favoured Independents They doe say they were so farr from keeping off proceeding upon those articles that they furthered it all they could and several times moved it in the House desirous to haue all cleared concerning the Lord Inchequin whom as they beleeved to be a man of honour and fidelity so if upon examination of his actions he appeared to be other they were resolved to declare their sense of him accordingly As for what concernes the Lord Lisle they say his Lordships time expiring which was but for one yeare either for him or any else to continue in that command the Parliament was pleased to dispose of the affaires of Ireland in an other way in the agitation whereof in the House they went according to their Iudgments and consciences without respecting any person living For the Command of the forces of that Kingdome which as to the Lord Inchequin can onely be understood of Ma●ster they doe not know that ever any thing was here done in it at all there having been no occasion for it as to their knowledg And as for the Letter mentioned to have been written by them 〈◊〉 any of them or from some other person by their or all of their direction they say as it is altogether uncertain and illegall so it is a meere fiction for they never did any such thing and tends to draw the Odi●● of Independents upon them to whose advancement both in Ixeland and elsewhere they feare they may prove obstructive as this Article clearly insinuates TO the 15. Sir Wil. Lewes and Mr. Glyn say that the Order o● the 13 of Aprill in the Article mentioned if there were any such relates to them only as Members of the Committe for whom they intend not to answer but in truth there was no such order it was only a report not an order and intended only for the county of Caermarthen how ever it came to pass the words were general and that was done in order to be reported to the house and accordingly was reported and after repealed by the Committee as they were informed And as for the publishing and sending thereof unto every Committee in Wales they know nothing thereof neither was it done by their or either of their directions or consents To the 16.
poor Service and all others to prove him guilty of receiving the least reward for any thing done by him in discharging of his publike trust And whereas it is charged That he discovered a design for the searching of Greenwich House He saith That about midnight in August as he takes it 1642 there came an Officer with some Souldiers to his lodging and brought with them a Warrant for him to sign for the searching of Greenwich House which Warrant he figned and by the same Officer he sent three lines written in an open paper to a Noble Lady who lodged in the House that she should not be frighted with the coming of Souldiers in such an unseasonable hour which Lady was no servant of the Queens but one that had given a cleer demonstration of her affection to the Publike by a large voluntary contribution upon the Propositions of Money and Plate So that he hopes this will not be thought a fault to send an open paper to a person of that quality for such purpose by the same Officer that was to put the design in execution As to the three 23 24 25. four and five and twentieth Articles which waste themselves in a scandal touching Master Long alone for to a printed imputation of cowardize covetousnesse and treachery where no particular person appear● to avouch the truth or give satisfaction for the falshood of such an Assertion no better name can be given he yet to give the world a taste of what truth they may expect in the rest returns unto these three this Answer That howbeit his education had not much acquainted him with Military emploiments before the late unhappy Wars which he thinketh to be the case of many who now reckon well of their abilities in that profession yet through the invitation of his Excellency the late Lord Generall Earl of Essex and the Committee of the safety of the Kingdom who thought it of some importance at that time to interest persons of estate and relations though not bred Souldiers in that emploiment he did accept the command of a Troop of Horse under his Excellency the greatest part whereof were raised by himself and his friends and in the Head of that Troop he charged at Edge-hill in the Regiment then under the command of Sir William Bel●ore which was the first that brake into the Enemy in which charge he lost his horse and being left dismounted did yet with his single pistoll in his hand give quarter to severall of the Enemies and was then by Captain Harecourt Quarter master of his Troop remounted continued out the Service of that day and the next and was one of the last Troops that brought away the A●●munition a thing happily not known to them who gave the information for this Article seeing it was the ill●hap of some Commanders that day to make an over-hasty retreat and of some others of no little Eminency now never to come there much lesse to charge though they quartered very neer the Field When the unexpected skirmish at Brainford happened his Troop as the greatest part of the Army besides was dispersed but so soon as he could get it together he went ●hither and stayed there till the businesse was at an end shortly after his Troop being to march towards Bristoll where some of his fellow Captains whose experience he thought as little as his own receiving sudden and great Commands he declined that Service under them and intended to return to his other in the House of Commons but some disaffections and backwardnesse to contribute to the publike Service appearing in some persons of quality in the County of Essex he was by Commission from his Excellency the Earl of Essex commanded thither and author●ed with other Gentlemen of that and the Counties of Herrford and Bedford to raise Horse Arms c. upon such as had not contributed c. Touching which emploiment without drawing the particulars into a long Discourse he saith that he acted nothing without the concurrence of two Gentlemen● at the least of his fellow Commissioners and therof and of what had been raised by them for the publike Service under that Authority he long before any Committee of Accompts setled did publish the particulars in print and thereof did immediately 〈◊〉 that Committee setled give and passe an Accompt upon Oath which course had others taken who are greater Accountan●● then hee there would happily have been lesse room for thi● Accusation The plundering and oppression in the Article mentioned he ●eckons as odious as it is an ●●true suggestion As for Master T●omas Manwood in the Article mentioned he much doubteth whether there be any such man residing in the County of Essex sure he is that no protection from the then Lord Generall his Excellency was disrespected by him and upon the ●●st enquiry Master Long can make the person intended by Master Thomas Manwood is no way eminent for his good affection and what was done towards him was well warranted by the Commission under which Master Long and those other Gentlemen of that Countrey were employed and nothing by countenance of that Authority was converted to Master Longs private advantage and so little hath the humour of covetousnesse with which the printed Articles charge him prevailed that there will be nothing found in his Accompts to be demanded for his Colonells pay an Omission of which he dares undertake to excuse them that are most willing to accuse him The Damages sustained by Master Long not pretended 24. but reall mentioned in the four and twentieth Article to be the inducement of that favour conferred upon him by the Chancery Office were under● considerations and together with his four yeers imprisonment and sufferance for his publick service in former Parliaments waighed by the wisdome of that House and his capability to execute that place usually discharged by able Deputies as now it is determined by that judgement which he dares not and thinks no men or company of men without those Wals ought to dispute and therefore to that quarrell more against both houses then himselfe he thinks himselfe bound to give and beleeves no wise honest English men will expect or well receive any other answer This onely he saith that neither the eminency nor profit of ¶ Some of thē in the sam Court as M. Speker and his Son M● Smith M. Love the Office can surely be the cause that it onely of all the Offices and Benefits accepted from the Parliament by other Members should be now subject to observation and made a matter of charge In answer to the five twentieth and perhaps for the weight of it 25. the last Article in that printed paper he saith That if any man hath which is not knowne to him seriously or in scorne used that s●urrilous phrase of Parliament-Di●●er towards him by reason of his more then ordinary diligence in perswading and pressing his Fellow-Members of the honourable House of Commons according to
their trust and duty to remaine in that house or returne to it when any thing hath been in debate which in his apprehension and conscience required their judgment wisdome and suffrage there he is contented to owne the Fact and leave the abuse to the author any unlawfull carriage in that particular without the house he doth deny his demeanour within those Wals in that or ought else no man without them ought to question or controll or he to give accompt of And for a close he saith that these his Accusers who have against reason and justice driven so many Members out of the house at once deserve the name of ¶ And Parliament-Riders Parliament-Drivers much more then he who defired onely to continue Members within the house according to his own and their Dutie The Conclusion UPon the whole matter we doe say that it is our Misfortune not our Misdoings that we stand in this manner accused Power may seize upon us and destroy us but not Justice we meane the Justice of Man for and in respect of these pretended Crimes not the Justice of God which we tremble at and submit unto and see it reach unto us for our sins this Cup of persecution and affliction by the hands of men the men of the world who are themselves but the hand of God to correct his children for their good their good in the end though for the present it be grievous unto them and befalls them many times occasionally and in the eye of men where they think themselves to be least deserving it to make them examine themselves and enquire where man cannot come into their own hearts to finde out the true cause which hath provoked their God to afflict them and so come to the knowledge of those evils and repent of them which otherwise would have lain undiscovered and like a sleeping Serpent awaken afterwards to do them a greater mischief which is at the present our case and we trust God will give us the grace to make this use of it For certainly upon the strictest scrutiny of our consciences and enquiry into our past actions and intentions we cannot finde we have deserved this return from any that can pretend themselves to be well-wishers to the Parliament and to the Peace of the Kingdom We can speak it for a truth We are of those who are peaceable and faithfull in Israel We never sought great things for our selve We have mourned for the desolations of this Kingdom of three Kingdoms We ha●e endeavoured our utmost according to our severall Talents as it hath pleased God to enable us in our severall places and callings as Members of the Parliament as Members of the Common-Wealth to do all the good we could to procure a settlement in Church and State We have desired a Peace We have laboured for Peace and willingly have never done the least thing to keep it off We have all of us taken the Covenant we dare not say we have kept it to Godward so well as we should but we will say no man can lay the breach of any part of it as to the King Parliament or Kingdom to our Charge nor we hope ever shall Nothing in this World that we have more heartily desired then to see a happy and firm Reconciliation between the King and his People him in his Throne them in their Liberties both of them encompassed with Righteousnesse and Peace and glorying in the Parliament as the foundation of both their happinesses Yet how we are aspersed and misrepresented let the World judge by severall Pamphlets and Papers concerning us and by this printed Charge We dare appeal even to the Consciences of our Accusers if they would speak out Perhaps with some it is in truth our Crime that they know us to be so as we are perhaps we stand in the way and prevent some destructive designes therefore we must be removed and that we may so be we must be represented to be Hinderers of Peace Obstructers of Justice Invaders of the Liberty and Freedom of the Subject Abusers and Misleaders of the Parliament In summe Whatsoever is amisse in the Kingdom we are made the Cause and must bear the blame of it Christianos ad ignem What publike Calamity soever befell in the time of the Primitive Persecutions the poore Christians were said to be the Cause and must be the expiatory Sacrifice But let men say what they will Eliab was never the more the Troubler of Israel because he was so called We will say with Job Our Witnesse is in Heaven and our Record is on high This is our Comfort and our Confidence We shall be acquit before the Tribunall of Heaven and we trust in the Divine Protection to have our Deliverance and Justification even here upon Earth by the Judgement of man that is by the Justice of the Parliament notwithstanding the malice of all our Enemies Denzill Hollis Phil. Stapleton William Lewis John Clotworthy William Waller John Maynard Edw. Massie John Glyn Walter Long Edw. Harley and Anth. Nicholl Members of the Honourable House of Commons FINIS