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A81785 Johannes Becoldus redivivus or, The English Quaker, the German enthusiast revived : visible in this narrative. / Translated into English, for the use of his countrey-men, by J.S. ; Written long since in French by Guy du Brez. Brès, Guy de, 1522-1567.; Scottow, Joshua, 1618-1698. 1659 (1659) Wing D2413; Thomason E2137_3; ESTC R208359 48,581 94

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own and that it was impossible for any to be both rich and a Christian Who would not wonder to see the foolishness of these poor people they would carry neither shooes staff nor money in their purses like begging Friers they consider not the meaning of that Scripture The use and practise of the Apostles declare fully that our Lord said that to prevent his disciples from being sollicitous for things needful for their journey seeing they should not want because the labourer is worthy of his hire this Christ instructed them in when he said When I sent you without purse without scrip Luk. 22.35 without shooes lacked you any thing They said unto him Nothing He saith unto them Now he that hath a purse let him take it c. As for preaching upon house-tops what he had told them in their ears it is no more but that what he had told them in secret they should preach openly And as for washing of their feet he would signifie nothing else thereby but that out of love we should be helpful one unto another for then they had other kind of shooes then we have now so as their feet were soiled with travelling and therefore they rightly washed their feet which now we have no use of being shod after another manner Our Anabaptists who practise this I would have them to consider how comely this is for it may fall out through want of women that men must wash their feet which how seemly it would be let them judge When Christ saith we must be as little children Mat. 18. it is not said We must be children and become foolish but that we should imitate the plainness integrity which is in little children and that is it which the Apostle Paul holds forth when he saith Be not children in understanding but in malice c. in understanding be men and every where in the Scriptures their wanderings and vagations are condemned 1 Tim. 5.8 for he saith Whosoever taketh not care of his own c. And let every one abide in the calling wherein he is called c. As for the Community of Goods whereof they make so much Plato taught it the Essenes had all things common Community of goods and this was sometimes practised in Jerusalem but when it is said Act. 4.32 They had all things common c. Luke understands it of many and not of all for it is manifest that all did not so because it is particularly specified of some saying And Joses also sold his possession if all sold their inheritances there was no need of naming particular persons for particulars are comprized in the number of all he intends not that all the faithful sold all that they had but as much as necessity required it was in the liberty of every one as Peter told Ananias When the field was sold was it not in thy power Act. 5. c. It is very evident that Christians possessed proprieties and that there were some very rich who left not their riches to put them into a common stock Abraham was very rich this is not to be rejected though in the old Testament Gen. 24.33 for he is in the new Testament called the father of the faithful Yea Christs speech Mat. 25.35 fully teaches us propriety in goods So Paul 1 Cor. 16.1 2 Cor. 8.10 2 Cor. 9 6 7. Rom. 12.13 Gal. 6.6 This communion was not in the Church of Ephesus Eph. 4.28 neither in the Church of the Philippians see Phil. 4.18 The Apostles charge concerning rich men proves propriety 1 Tim. 6.17 John alloweth propriety 1 Joh. 3.17 so Heb. 10.34 Jam. 2.25 Theft is forbidden by God and therefore no community Were not Isaac and Jacob and Job and Joseph of Arimathea rich and retained propriety in goods Lazarus with his two sisters retained their house The women and Luke ministred of their goods unto Christ Dorcas Lydia Cornelius had propriety in their estates c. Much more is said to this purpose but this may suffice Moreover then the multitude of believers for the most part were very poor as Paul saith Brethren you know your calling not many noble c. This was not done in a disorderly way but in good order it being committed unto the Apostles to distribute according to their judgement to poor believers among the Jewes who were hated had not means to get bread and because they who had estates were plundered or were in danger of confiscation of their estates for this cause it may seem the Holy Ghost timely set them a work thus to dispose and expend their estates which otherwise would have been lost at the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus and Vespasian which came shortly after before which ruine the Christians were retired from Judea as Eusebius recites but these Anabaptists would put all the world in a confusion by their community of goods and that they might enjoy other mens labours but it is worse for them to bind all men unto it upon pain of damnation Of the spiritual Anabaptists who are separated from the world AS for the Anabaptists who call themselves separated from the world and are wholly spiritual they say they will have nothing in common with the Gentiles as they call them not fasting observation of daies life eating and drinking c. These establish a rule how plain their garments must be of what stuff how long how large of what matter and how for manner they forbid the use of all costly garments calling such as use them Gentiles and Pagans when they see any laugh or be cheerful they cry Wo unto you that laugh now for ye shall weep They fetch continual deep sighs and are alwaies sad they reject all feastings and banquets at Weddings all use of musique and as for that speech Rom. 12.1 they have it alwaies in their mouths Fashion not your selves unto the world they alledge it as if the Apostle had intended to change the nature and property of all things and as if so be he commanded us to go upon our heads because the Gentiles go upon their feet or to speak with our feet and hear with our heels because the Gentiles speak with their mouths and hear with their ears Whereas the Apostle understandeth no other thing then that we should not imitate the world in that which is evil which the Apostle John saith Love not the world nor the things that are in the world for all that is in the world the lust of the flesh the lust of the eye and the pride of life is not of the Father And the Apostle Paul expoundeth this Ephes 4.17 when he chargeth that we should not walk as the Gentiles walk in the vanity of their understandings It is folly in them to draw these words from the true sense to make them condemn a multitude of things indifferent as some of them will not put on a clean shirt upon Sunday because unbelievers do so some will not call