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A90729 A full ansvver to a printed paper, entituled, Foure serious questions concerning excommunication, and suspension from the sacrament, &c. Wherein the severall arguments and texts of scripture produced, are particularly and distinctly discussed: and the debarring of ignorant and scandalous persons from the sacrament vindicated. Palmer, Herbert, 1601-1647. 1645 (1645) Wing P233; Thomason E302_1; ESTC R200273 24,895 32

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