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A64003 A treatise of Mr. Cottons clearing certaine doubts concerning predestination together with an examination thereof / written by William Twisse ... Twisse, William, 1578?-1646. 1646 (1646) Wing T3425; ESTC R11205 234,561 280

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of_o scripture_n i_o will_v rather_o distinguish_v into_o a_o double_a act_n 1._o whereby_o without_o all_o respect_n of_o good_a or_o evil_n in_o the_o man_n of_o this_o world_n god_n ordain_v they_o unto_o judgement_n according_a to_o their_o work_n ezech._n 33._o 20._o to_o judgement_n i_o say_v not_o of_o condemnation_n which_o presuppose_v sin_n in_o the_o creature_n to_o be_v condemn_v but_o judgement_n i_o mean_v of_o just_a retribution_n whereby_o god_n be_v willing_a to_o deal_v with_o they_o according_a to_o their_o work_n in_o justice_n justice_n i_o say_v aswell_o distributive_a to_o reward_v they_o with_o life_n if_o they_o continue_v in_o obedience_n as_o vindicative_a to_o punish_v they_o to_o death_n if_o they_o provoke_v he_o by_o careless_a and_o wilful_a disobedience_n hitherto_o even_o to_o this_o act_n the_o hatred_n of_o god_n to_o esau_n reach_v 2._o whereby_o upon_o the_o
but_o one_o thing_n though_o express_v under_o different_a phrase_n what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n say_v they_o be_v not_o condemn_v till_o then_o i_o say_v nor_o then_o neither_o 1._o unless_o they_o continue_v final_o therein_o for_o be_v not_o the_o very_o elect_a sometime_o stranger_n and_o enemy_n rom._n 5-10_a col._n 1._o 12._o be_v it_o so_o hatred_n of_o the_o light_n go_v before_o condemnation_n therefore_o the_o consideration_n of_o this_o hatred_n go_v before_o god_n purpose_n to_o condemn_v they_o if_o this_o logic_n like_v you_o like_o this_o also_o faith_n repentance_n and_o good_a work_n go_v before_o salvation_n therefore_o they_o be_v before_o god_n purpose_n to_o save_v they_o who_o he_o save_v but_o whereas_o you_o seem_v to_o denote_v that_o after_o a_o certain_a continuance_n in_o hatred_n of_o the_o light_n a_o man_n case_n be_v desperate_a which_o you_o seem_v to_o signify_v by_o a_o phrase_n of_o shut_v up_o beside_o that_o it_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n but_o matter_n of_o another_o question_n i_o shall_v believe_v it_o when_o i_o find_v yourself_o or_o any_o man_n else_o to_o prove_v it_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o continue_v as_o i_o be_o and_o rest_v content_v with_o the_o reason_n former_o mention_v for_o the_o disprove_v of_o it_o undoubted_o by_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n can_v be_v mean_v all_o man_n fall_v and_o corrupt_v in_o adam_n by_o original_a sin_n for_o they_o be_v express_o propose_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n gen._n 3._o 15._o herein_o i_o concur_v with_o you_o but_o i_o concur_v not_o with_o you_o in_o the_o description_n of_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n for_o that_o agree_v to_o all_o even_o to_o the_o elect_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o reprobate_n before_o the_o time_n come_v that_o god_n have_v appoint_v for_o their_o effectual_a call_n for_o till_o then_o they_o have_v the_o image_n of_o the_o old_a serpent_n as_o you_o call_v it_o 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authority_n from_o the_o chief_a priest_n and_o when_o they_o be_v put_v to_o death_n i_o give_v my_o voice_n against_o they_o 11._o and_o i_o punish_v they_o oft_o in_o every_o synagogue_n and_o compel_v they_o to_o blaspheme_v and_o be_v exceed_o mad_a against_o they_o i_o persecute_v they_o even_o unto_o strange_a city_n i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o profaneness_n of_o esau_n shall_v stand_v in_o great_a opposition_n unto_o grace_n than_o the_o zeal_n of_o paul_n while_o he_o be_v a_o persecuter_n esau_n entreat_v jacob_n kind_o in_o his_o return_n from_o mesopotamia_n but_o esau_n continue_v final_o in_o his_o profaneness_n paul_n continue_v not_o in_o the_o course_n of_o his_o blind_a persecute_v zeal_n and_o this_o put_v the_o true_a difference_n between_o they_o though_o with_o god_n there_o be_v a_o difference_n put_v between_o they_o from_o everlasting_a in_o his_o counsel_n to_o make_v the_o one_o a_o vessel_n of_o mercy_n the_o other_o a_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n and_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o reprobate_n shall_v not_o be_v account_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o serpent_n from_o their_o first_o conception_n not_o because_o of_o their_o original_a pollution_n for_o that_o be_v common_a to_o they_o with_o god_n elect_n but_o because_o god_n do_v not_o purpose_n to_o cure_v it_o in_o they_o as_o he_o will_v cure_v it_o in_o the_o elect_n though_o this_o natural_a corruption_n can_v break_v forth_o into_o actual_a hatred_n of_o the_o truth_n till_o they_o be_v bring_v acquaint_v with_o it_o and_o the_o like_a actual_a hatred_n break_v forth_o also_o in_o god_n elect_n as_o it_o do_v in_o paul_n until_o the_o time_n come_v which_o god_n have_v appoint_v for_o the_o cure_n of_o it_o but_o he_o will_v never_o cure_v it_o in_o the_o reprobate_n against_o the_o point_n i_o know_v nothing_o of_o worth_n beside_o that_o in_o the_o answ_n rom._n interpret_v and_o open_v in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o four_o doubt_n follow_v save_v only_o that_o place_n in_o judas_n where_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o false_a teacher_n as_o it_o be_v common_o translate_v that_o they_o be_v ordain_v of_o old_a to_o condemnation_n the_o word_n in_o the_o original_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o sense_n whereof_o be_v give_v to_o be_v that_o these_o false_a teacher_n be_v of_o old_a ordain_v to_o judgement_n viz._n as_o they_o take_v it_o from_o eternity_n and_o so_o before_o themselves_o be_v or_o have_v give_v any_o former_a cause_n of_o such_o condemnation_n and_o according_a to_o this_o sense_n the_o subject_n whereabout_o the_o decree_n of_o reprobation_n be_v conversant_a be_v not_o the_o world_n as_o fall_v in_o adam_n much_o less_o as_o fall_v from_o christ_n but_o as_o consider_v in_o massa_fw-la pura_fw-la before_o they_o have_v do_v good_a or_o evil_n yea_o before_o they_o be_v to_o clear_v this_o objection_n i_o be_o to_o crave_v leave_n to_o depart_v from_o the_o usual_a translation_n and_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n for_o first_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o in_o the_o first_o place_n signify_v condemnation_n but_o as_o you_o well_o know_v judgement_n rather_o and_o so_o if_o i_o shall_v give_v the_o sense_n they_o be_v of_o old_a ordain_v to_o judgement_n viz._n according_a to_o their_o work_n this_o will_v not_o at_o all_o touch_n the_o second_o act_n of_o positive_a reprobation_n the_o point_n now_o in_o hand_n but_o only_o confirm_v the_o first_o point_n touch_v the_o former_a act_n of_o positive_a retribution_n speak_v of_o before_o viz._n before_o the_o world_n be_v god_n then_o ordain_v the_o man_n of_o this_o world_n to_o judgement_n according_a to_o their_o work_n and_o sure_o i_o shall_v have_v rest_v in_o this_o sense_n but_o that_o i_o see_v the_o apostle_n judas_n interpose_v the_o pronounce_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v thereby_o point_n at_o some_o spiritual_a kind_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o judgement_n speak_v of_o by_o he_o in_o the_o word_n 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sense_n with_o judas_n here_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o suit_n or_o trial_n or_o contention_n there_o be_v utter_o say_v he_o a_o fault_n among_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o that_o you_o have_v contention_n or_o suit_n or_o trial_n one_o with_o another_o if_o you_o take_v the_o primitive_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o also_o consider_v the_o coherence_n of_o the_o apostle_n word_n in_o this_o place_n this_o will_v appear_v to_o be_v his_o native_a and_o true_a meaning_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o be_v of_o old_a design_v to_o this_o contention_n yet_o for_o a_o little_a further_o clear_v of_o the_o text_n let_v i_o add_v a_o word_n touch_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o two_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
god_n design_v they_o to_o somewhat_o and_o the_o better_a to_o hold_v up_o the_o congruity_n of_o your_o interpretation_n you_o call_v god_n the_o chief_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o thing_n whereunto_o god_n design_v they_o be_v you_o say_v to_o put_v the_o christian_n to_o who_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o this_o contention_n and_o trial_n where_o you_o leave_v the_o greek_a as_o no_o long_a able_a to_o serve_v your_o turn_n for_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whereunto_o god_n ordain_v they_o but_o yet_o which_o be_v enough_o you_o positive_o avouch_v that_o the_o coherence_n require_v this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v so_o translate_v this_o i_o say_v be_v enough_o if_o you_o can_v as_o substantial_o prove_v it_o as_o you_o do_v confident_o avouch_v it_o and_o yet_o i_o presume_v you_o well_o know_v yourself_o to_o have_v be_v the_o first_o that_o have_v discover_v any_o such_o pregnancy_n of_o the_o text_n to_o go_v as_o it_o be_v with_o child_n with_o any_o such_o sense_n and_o meaning_n and_o therefore_o it_o behoove_v you_o to_o bring_v good_a card_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o your_o interpretation_n now_o before_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v your_o proof_n i_o say_v that_o this_o interpretation_n of_o you_o be_v far_o more_o 〈◊〉_d than_o that_o be_v which_o you_o impugn_v by_o how_o much_o it_o be_v far_o more_o 〈◊〉_d as_o arminius_n urge_v against_o mr._n '_n perkins_n according_a unto_o truth_n to_o say_v that_o god_n from_o eternity_n ordain_v a_o man_n unto_o sin_n then_o that_o from_o eternity_n he_o ordain_v man_n unto_o condemnation_n and_o piscator_fw-la concur_v with_o you_o in_o the_o issue_n though_o he_o take_v a_o different_a way_n ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la judicium_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._n e._n say_v he_o ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la impietatem_fw-la qua_fw-la impietate_fw-la commerentur_fw-la sibique_fw-la accersunt_fw-la judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la i._n 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