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whereas_o we_o affirm_v that_o st._n hierom_n 9_o hierom_n st._n hierom._n in_o his_o preface_n before_o the_o new_a testament_n ded_fw-we cate_v to_o pope_n damasus_n say_v hereof_o novum_n opus_fw-la i_o fâ—cere_fw-la cogis_fw-la ex_fw-la veteri_fw-la etc._n etc._n you_o constrain_v i_o to_o make_v a_o new_a work_n of_o a_o old_a that_o i_o after_o so_o many_o copy_n of_o scripture_n disperse_v through_o the_o world_n shall_v sit_v as_o a_o certain_a judge_n and_o determine_v which_o of_o they_o agree_v with_o the_o true_a greek_a also_o hâ—erom_n in_o catal._n fine_a say_v novum_n testamentum_fw-la graecae_fw-la fidei_fw-la reddidi_fw-la vetus_fw-la juxta_fw-la haebraicum_fw-la transtuli_fw-la and_o see_v further_o hereof_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 9_o at_o the_o request_n of_o pope_n damasus_n be_v author_n or_o reviewer_n of_o our_o common_a edition_n which_o the_o father_n martyrologio_fw-la father_n st._n hierom._n in_o praefat_fw-la psalterii_fw-la ad_fw-la sophronian_a quae_fw-la est_fw-la epistola_fw-la 134._o say_v certè_fw-la confidenter_fw-la dicam_fw-la &_o multos_fw-la huius_fw-la operis_fw-la testes_fw-la citabo_fw-la i_o nihil_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la sententiae_fw-la de_fw-la hebraica_n veritate_fw-la mutasse_fw-la etc._n etc._n interroga_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la hebraeorum_n &_o liquidò_fw-la perfidebis_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o see_v he_o further_o in_o prologo_fw-la in_o libros_fw-la regum_fw-la and_o st._n austin_n de_fw-fr civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 18._o c._n 43._o initio_fw-la say_v non_fw-la defuit_fw-la nostris_fw-la temporibus_fw-la praesbyter_n hieronymus_n homo_fw-la doctissimus_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la trium_fw-la linguarum_fw-la peritissimus_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la graeco_fw-la sed_fw-la ex_fw-la hebaero_fw-la in_o latinum_fw-la eloquium_fw-la easdem_fw-la scripturas_fw-la converterit_fw-la cujus_fw-la tamen_fw-la literatum_fw-la laborem_fw-la judaei_n fatentur_fw-la esse_fw-la veracem_fw-la and_o see_v st._n austin_n epist_n ad_fw-la hieronym_n c._n 3._o and_o see_v aurelius_n cassiodorus_n l._n 2._o institut_fw-la c._n 12._o &_o 21._o &_o gregorius_n magnus_n l._n 20._o moral_a c._n 23._o and_o isidor_n l._n 6._o etymol_n c._n 5._o &_o 7._o &_o de_fw-la divinis_fw-la officiis_n l._n 1._o c._n 12._o and_o beda_n in_o martyrologio_fw-la do_v so_o great_o commend_v master_n whitaker_n answer_v thereto_o do_v upon_o a_o more_o sober_a and_o stay_a judgement_n alter_v the_o former_a vehemency_n of_o his_o stile_n say_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o m._n reynolds_n pag._n 241._o paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a st._n hierom_n i_o reverence_v damasus_n i_o commend_v and_o the_o work_n i_o confess_v to_o be_v godly_a and_o profitable_a to_o the_o church_n as_o also_o d._n covell_n in_o his_o answer_n unto_o master_n john_n burges_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 94._o ante_fw-la medium_n acknowledge_v the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n say_v it_o be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n a_o thousand_o three_o hundred_o year_n ago_o not_o doubt_v ibidem_fw-la to_o prefer_v that_o translation_n before_o other_o insomuch_o as_o that_o whereas_o the_o english_a translation_n be_v many_o and_o among_o themselves_o disagree_v he_o conclude_v ibidem_fw-la pag._n 91._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la that_o of_o all_o those_o the_o approve_a translation_n authorize_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v that_o which_o come_v near_a to_o the_o vulgar_a and_o be_v common_o call_v the_o bishop_n bible_n o_o truth_n most_o strong_a sacred_a and_o inviolable_a more_o forcible_a as_o st._n austin_n contra_fw-la donatistas_n post_n collat_n cap._n 24._o observe_v to_o wring_v out_o confession_n than_o be_v any_o rack_n or_o torment_v pu._n since_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o translation_n which_o we_o use_v must_v be_v the_o rule_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o goodness_n of_o their_o bibles_n they_o be_v oblige_v to_o maintain_v our_o vulgar_a translation_n if_o it_o be_v but_o for_o their_o own_o 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occidendum_fw-la that_o the_o thief_n kill_v god_n procure_v he_o deo_fw-la impulsore_fw-la occidit_fw-la ibid._n paulo_fw-la post_fw-la that_o god_n move_v and_o enforce_v till_o the_o party_n be_v slay_v movet_fw-la &_o impellit_fw-la deus_fw-la usque_fw-la dum_fw-la ille_fw-la occisus_fw-la est_fw-la ibid._n fol._n 366._o a._n circa_fw-la med_a and_o a_o little_a after_o there_o impulit_fw-la deus_fw-la ut_fw-la occideret_fw-la that_o the_o thief_n be_v enforce_v to_o sin_n at_o inquies_fw-la coactus_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la peccandum_fw-la permitto_fw-la inquam_fw-la coactum_fw-la esse_fw-la fol._n 366._o paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la medium_n in_o so_o much_o that_o in_o our_o sin_v against_o the_o law_n we_o be_v not_o say_v he_o author_n of_o the_o sin_n but_o as_o god_n instrument_n in_o legem_fw-la enim_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la non_fw-la quasi_fw-la authores_fw-la sed_fw-la quasi_fw-la instrumenta_fw-la quibus_fw-la deus_fw-la liberiùs_fw-la pro_fw-la sva_fw-la voluntate_fw-la uti_fw-la potest_fw-la ibidem_fw-la fol._n 366._o a._n initiâ—_n that_o even_o one_o and_o the_o same_o fact_n which_o have_v god_n for_o the_o author_n and_o impulsor_n be_v in_o god_n honourable_a and_o in_o man_n sin_n ergo_fw-la factum_fw-la quod_fw-la deo_fw-la authore_fw-la &_o impulsore_fw-la fit_a illi_fw-la honorificum_fw-la est_fw-la â—t_z homini_fw-la crimen_fw-la acnefas_fw-la that_o david_n adultery_n pertein_v to_o god_n as_o author_n thereof_o adulterium_fw-la david_n ad_fw-la deum_fw-la authorem_fw-la pertinet_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibid._n fol._n 365._o b._n fine_a that_o though_o adultery_n and_o murder_n be_v not_o sin_n in_o god_n because_o he_o be_v bind_v by_o no_o law_n yet_o say_v he_o they_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n as_o the_o author_n the_o mover_n and_o inforcer_n unum_n igitur_fw-la atque_fw-la idem_fw-la facinus_fw-la puta_fw-la adulterium_fw-la aut_fw-la homicidium_fw-la quantum_fw-la dei_fw-la est_fw-la authoris_fw-la motoris_fw-la ac_fw-la impulsoris_fw-la opus_fw-la est_fw-la crimen_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la quantum_fw-la autem_fw-la hominis_fw-la est_fw-la crimen_fw-la ac_fw-la scelus_fw-la est_fw-la ille_fw-la enim_fw-la lege_fw-la non_fw-la tenetur_fw-la hic_fw-la autem_fw-la lege_fw-la damnatur_fw-la so_o evident_o do_v he_o make_v god_n the_o author_n though_o not_o of_o sin_n in_o himself_o because_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o no_o law_n yet_o of_o sin_n in_o we_o a_o opinion_n most_o dreadful_a odious_a and_o execrable_a 36._o six_o concern_v our_o obedience_n to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o case_n he_o impugn_v zuinglius_fw-la his_fw-la religion_n his_o doctrine_n be_v that_o in_o such_o case_n even_o king_n be_v to_o be_v depose_v g._n depose_v see_v brereley_o tract_n 3._o sect_n 2._o ante_fw-la med_n at_o g._n zuinglius_fw-la l._n 4._o epistolarum_n zuinglii_n &_o oecolampadii_fw-la epist_n conhardo_n somio_n &_o simperto_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 868._o post_n med_n &_o pag._n 869._o say_v promittendum_fw-la est_fw-la caesari_n officium_fw-la debitum_fw-la si_fw-la modò_fw-la fidem_fw-la nobis_fw-la permittat_fw-la illibatam_fw-la etc._n etc._n romanum_fw-la imperium_fw-la imò_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la imperium_fw-la ubi_fw-la religionem_fw-la sinceram_fw-la opprimere_fw-la caeperit_n &_o nos_fw-la illud_fw-la negligentes_fw-la patimur_fw-la jam_fw-la negatae_fw-la aut_fw-la contemptae_fw-la religionis_fw-la non_fw-la minùs_fw-la rei_fw-la erimus_fw-la quam_fw-la illi_fw-la ipsi_fw-la oppressores_fw-la exemplnm_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la hierem._n 15._o ubi_fw-la exterminium_fw-la comminatur_fw-la deus_fw-la israeli_n quod_fw-la manassem_fw-la permisissent_fw-la impunè_fw-la esse_fw-la pessimum_fw-la due_a loyalty_n be_v to_o be_v promise_v to_o caesar_n if_o so_o that_o he_o permit_v to_o we_o our_o religion_n inviolable_a etc._n etc._n if_o the_o roman_a empire_n or_o what_o other_o sovereign_n soever_o shall_v oppress_v the_o sincere_a religion_n and_o we_o negligent_o suffer_v the_o same_o we_o shall_v be_v charge_v with_o contempt_n no_o less_o than_o the_o oppressor_n thereof_o themselves_o whereof_o say_v he_o abuse_v therein_o the_o scripture_n most_o gross_o we_o have_v a_o example_n in_o the_o 15._o of_o jeremy_n where_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o people_n be_v prophesy_v for_o that_o they_o suffer_v their_o king_n manasses_n be_v ungodly_a to_o be_v unpunished_a and_o see_v zuinglius_fw-la his_o word_n tom_n 1._o in_o explanatione_fw-la articuli_fw-la 42._o fol._n 84._o a._n where_o he_o teach_v that_o quando_fw-la perfidè_fw-la &_o extra_fw-la regulam_fw-la
in_o his_o say_a epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n and_o hierom_n in_o câ—tal_a and_o eusebâ—us_n l._n 3._o c._n 30._o do_v mention_n ignatius_n his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n allege_v likewise_o a_o great_a part_n thereof_o answerable_o find_v in_o the_o say_a epistle_n now_o extant_a and_o like_o mention_n and_o recital_n do_v they_o make_v of_o sundry_a his_o other_o epistle_n the_o undoubted_a epistle_n undoubted_a mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 408._o circa_fw-la med_n acknowledge_v and_o urge_v these_o epistle_n of_o ignatius_n allege_v in_o proof_n of_o they_o hierom_n and_o eusebius_n and_o mr._n cartwright_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o deny_v the_o say_v epistle_n and_o confess_v writing_n of_o ignatius_n the_o apostle_n know_v scholar_n answer_v finem_fw-la answer_v mr._n whitgift_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la say_v ignatius_n be_v st._n john_n scholar_n and_o live_v in_o christ_n time_n and_o see_v pag._n 343_o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la to_o his_o object_v testimony_n med_n testimony_n mr._n wotton_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o mr._n perkins_n pag._n 340._o and_o whereas_o mr._n wottoâ—_n in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o prove_v these_o epistle_n counterfeit_a allege_v this_o say_n of_o ignatius_n whosoever_o do_v not_o fast_o every_o lord_n day_n or_o sabbath_n except_o easter_n day_n only_o be_v a_o murderer_n of_o christ_n which_o say_v m._n wotton_n be_v absurd_a to_o forbear_v mr._n wotton'_v misallege_v of_o ignatius_n his_o word_n woich_a be_v direct_o to_o the_o contrary_a of_o that_o be_v allege_v condemn_v indeed_o fast_v upon_o the_o lord_n day_n whereof_o see_v m._n cartwright_n in_o mr._n whitgift_n defence_n pag._n 99_o fine_a who_o allege_v this_o intend_a sentence_n as_o the_o undoubted_a say_n of_o ignatius_n as_o concern_v the_o matter_n the_o lord_n day_n be_v the_o day_n of_o our_o saviour_n resurrection_n and_o so_o to_o we_o a_o day_n of_o joy_n it_o be_v ever_o in_o regard_n thereof_o prohibit_v to_o fast_o thereupon_o as_o concern_v the_o phrase_n of_o kill_a christ_n it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v as_o speak_v of_o murder_v or_o kill_v only_o by_o way_n of_o signification_n or_o in_o a_o like_o sober_a sense_n as_o when_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v we_o to_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n in_o baptism_n rom._n 6.4_o &_o coloss_n 2.12_o or_o as_o when_o he_o affirm_v of_o sinner_n that_o they_o crucify_v again_o to_o themselves_o the_o son_n of_o god_n hebr._n 6.6_o in_o so_o much_o as_o mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 102._o ante_fw-la med_n and_o mr._n hooker_n l._n 5._o sect_n 72._o pag._n 209._o circa_fw-la med_n do_v both_o of_o they_o special_o mention_v and_o answer_v this_o very_a objection_n urge_v by_o mr._n wotton_n and_o brereley_o in_o his_o omission_n etc._n etc._n of_o pag._n 94._o say_v and_o so_o likewise_o do_v mr._n buddle_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o evangelical_n fast_n pag._n 13._o post_n med_n i_o say_v plain_o this_o man_n testimony_n be_v nothing_o worth_a because_o he_o be_v of_o little_a judgement_n in_o divinity_n 7._o seaventh_o concern_v freewill_n merit_n of_o work_n invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o other_o like_a the_o lord_z archbishop_z of_o canterbury_n discourse_v of_o initio_fw-la of_o mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o cartwright_n pag._n 472._o fine_a &_o 473._o initio_fw-la doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o other_o exception_n of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n etc._n word_n mr._n whitgift_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 473._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la and_o see_v mr._n d._n covel_n in_o his_o examination_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 120._o post_n med_n affirm_v in_o like_a manner_n and_o say_v divers_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_n merit_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a and_o so_o according_o concern_v invocacation_n of_o saint_n mr._n fulk_n say_v fine_a say_v fulk_n in_o his_o rejoynder_n to_o bristol_n pag._n 5._o fine_a i_o confess_v that_o ambrose_n austin_n and_o hierom_n hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o be_v lawful_a and_o it_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n yet_o further_o confess_v and_o affirm_v of_o the_o father_n in_o particular_a that_o med_n that_o mr._n fulk_n against_o the_o rhemish_a testament_n in_o 2_o pet._n c._n 1._o sect_n 3._o fol._n 443._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n in_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o chrysostom_n be_v mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n that_o med_n that_o ibid_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n theodoret_n also_o speak_v of_o prayer_n unto_o martyr_n that_o med_a that_o ibid_fw-la paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a leo_n ascribe_v much_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o st._n peter_n for_o he_o that_o med_a that_o ibid._n paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n hold_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o to_o omit_v like_o further_a confession_n concern_v 310._o concern_v mr._n fulk_n against_o purgatory_n pag._n 310._o ambrose_n caepit_fw-la ambrose_n chemnitius_n examen_fw-la part_n 3._o pag._n 200._o a._n fine_a say_v invocatio_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la tandem_fw-la circa_fw-la annum_fw-la domini_fw-la 370._o per_fw-la basilium_fw-la nyssenum_n &_o naz_n anzenum_fw-la in_o publicos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la conventus_fw-la invehi_fw-la caepit_fw-la basil_n nazianzen_n gregory_n nyssen_n med_n nyssen_n chemnitius_n ibid._n pag._n 211._o a._n it_o med_n and_o see_v further_o concern_v hierom_n bullinger_n in_o apoc._n serm._n 87._o fol._n 270._o b._n it_o med_n theodoret_n hierom_n and_o concern_v also_o even_o cedens_fw-la even_o chemnitius_n ibid._n pag._n 211._o a._n initio_fw-la allege_v st._n austin_n invocate_a st._n cyprian_n and_o conclude_v say_v thereof_o haec_fw-la augustious_a sine_fw-la scriptura_fw-la temporibus_fw-la &_o consuetudim_v cedens_fw-la st._n augustin_n himself_o st._n cyprian_n who_o be_v much_o their_o ancient_a be_v charge_v orare_fw-la charge_v the_o centurist_n cent_n 3._o col_fw-fr 84._o lin_v 23._o say_v certè_fw-la in_o sine_fw-la prioris_fw-la epistolae_fw-la libri_fw-la primi_fw-la non_fw-la obscurè_fw-la sentit_fw-la cyprianus_n martyr_n &_o sanctos_fw-la desunctoâ—_n pro_fw-la viventibus_fw-la orare_fw-la to_o affirm_v that_o martyr_n and_o dead_a saint_n do_v pray_v for_o the_o live_n and_o the_o centurist_n charge_v origen_n who_o be_v ancient_a to_o cyprian_a with_o miseris_fw-la with_o centur._n 3._o col_fw-fr 83._o lin_v 49._o they_o allege_v origen_n say_v o_o beat_v job_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la miseris_fw-la prayer_n for_o himself_o to_o holy_a job_n and_o ezek._n and_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 75._o lin_v 29._o it_o be_v say_v angelos_n etiam_fw-la origine_fw-la invocandos_fw-la putavit_fw-la hom_n 1._o in_o ezek._n invocation_n of_o angel_n affirm_v further_o that_o sanctorum_fw-la that_o centur._n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o lin_v 47._o it_o be_v say_v videas_fw-la in_o doctorum_fw-la huius_fw-la seculi_fw-la scriptis_fw-la non_fw-la obscura_fw-la vestigia_fw-la invocationis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la there_o be_v manifest_a step_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o ancient_a age_n 8._o eight_o concern_v baptism_n and_o grace_v confer_v by_o it_o and_o other_o sacrament_n it_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n who_o succeed_v next_o to_o the_o apostle_n scholar_n namely_o justin_n clement_n etc._n etc._n etc._n etc._n centur._n 2._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 47._o lin_v 43._o and_o in_o cent_n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 82._o lin_v 55._o it_o be_v say_v affirmare_fw-la audet_fw-la cyprianus_n quod_fw-la persona_fw-la baptizan_n spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la conferat_fw-la &_o baptizatum_fw-la intus_fw-la sanctificet_fw-la etc._n etc._n think_v regeneration_n not_o to_o be_v signify_v but_o wrought_v by_o baptism_n and_o the_o word_n unto_o which_o two_o join_v together_o they_o attribute_v efficacy_n that_o be_v to_o say_v remission_n of_o sin_n that_o 70._o that_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la fol._n 70._o it_o be_v a_o great_a error_n of_o the_o old_a doctor_n in_o that_o they_o suppose_v the_o external_a water_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v of_o any_o value_n towards_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n that_o etc._n that_o musculus_fw-la loc_fw-la come_v pag._n 299._o post_n med_n say_v thereof_o inconsideratè_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la augustino_n etc._n etc._n austin_n do_v inconsiderate_o affirm_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o give_v salvation_n that_o also_o 16._o also_o centur._n 3._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 125._o lin_v 16._o origen_n tertullian_n and_o cyprian_a mention_n how_o that_o the_o baptise_a person_n be_v accustom_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n that_o there_o be_v likewise_o then_o use_v in_o baptism_n sundry_a other_o ceremony_n
that_o many_o learned_a protestant_n do_v not_o believe_v all_o such_o doctrine_n and_o consequent_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o salvation_n pag._n 269._o n._n 45._o a_o man_n may_v possible_o leave_v some_o opinion_n or_o practice_n of_o a_o church_n former_o common_a to_o himself_o and_o other_o and_o continue_v still_o a_o member_n of_o that_o church_n provide_v that_o what_o he_o forsake_v be_v not_o one_o of_o those_o thing_n wherein_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n consist_v for_o this_o cause_n he_o say_v that_o although_o protestant_n leave_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o they_o leave_v not_o the_o church_n because_o they_o leave_v she_o not_o in_o any_o thing_n essential_a to_o a_o church_n as_o fundamental_a point_n be_v therefore_o he_o suppose_v the_o church_n before_o luther_n do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a article_n otherwise_o protestant_n have_v leave_v she_o that_o be_v they_o have_v disagree_v from_o she_o in_o a_o fundamental_a point_n p._n 272._o n._n 52_o and_o pag._n 283._o n._n 73._o he_o deny_v that_o protestant_n divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n absolute_o and_o simple_o in_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o it_o which_o still_o suppose_v that_o the_o church_n before_o luther_n believe_v all_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a point_n which_o protestant_n also_o pretend_v to_o hold_v and_o for_o that_o cause_n say_v they_o leave_v not_o the_o church_n pag._n 272._o n._n 52._o he_o say_v in_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o separation_n from_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o your_o church_n you_o be_v mistake_v for_o it_o be_v not_o so_o much_o because_o she_o your_o church_n as_o because_o your_o church_n external_a communion_n be_v corrupt_v and_o need_v reformation_n but_o if_o we_o err_v in_o fundamental_a point_n protestant_n must_v have_v forsake_v we_o chief_o for_o that_o reason_n that_o our_o church_n be_v corrupt_v with_o fundamental_a error_n of_o faith_n therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o err_v not_o in_o any_o such_o necessary_a point_n pag._n 401._o n._n 26._o he_o confess_v that_o d._n potter_n say_v indeed_o that_o our_o not_o cut_v off_o your_o church_n from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o hope_v of_o salvation_n free_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n pag._n 133._o n._n 12._o he_o say_v express_o by_o confession_n of_o both_o side_n we_o agree_v in_o much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n it_o be_v well_o he_o make_v so_o open_a a_o confession_n that_o we_o believe_v much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o we_o will_v not_o because_o we_o can_v yield_v so_o much_o to_o protestant_n and_o here_o i_o must_v ask_v again_o how_o he_o can_v say_v pag._n 401._o n._n 27._o as_o for_o our_o free_n you_o from_o damnable_a heresy_n and_o yield_v you_o salvation_n neither_o d._n potter_n nor_o any_o other_o protestant_n be_v guilty_a of_o it_o see_v he_o say_v that_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o both_o side_n we_o agree_v in_o much_o more_o than_o be_v simple_o and_o indispensable_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n if_o we_o believe_v much_o more_o than_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n by_o what_o logic_n will_v he_o deduce_v that_o we_o believe_v not_o as_o much_o as_o be_v necessary_a 8._o these_o so_o many_o and_o so_o clear_a word_n of_o d._n potter_n and_o m._n chillingworth_n may_v just_o make_v any_o man_n wonder_n with_o what_o pretence_n of_o truth_n or_o modesty_n he_o can_v say_v pag._n 280._o n._n 95._o as_o for_o your_o pretence_n that_o your_o error_n be_v confess_v not_o to_o be_v fundamental_a it_o be_v a_o affect_a mistake_n as_o i_o have_v often_o tell_v you_o and_o pag._n 308._o 108._o as_o for_o your_o obtrude_a upon_o we_o that_o we_o believe_v the_o point_n of_o difference_n not_o fundamental_a or_o necessary_a you_o have_v be_v often_o tell_v it_o be_v a_o calumny_n the_o often_o the_o worse_a it_o be_v a_o say_v void_a of_o all_o truth_n and_o a_o shameful_a calumny_n in_o he_o 9_o to_o these_o testimony_n of_o potter_n and_o chillingworth_n many_o other_o may_v be_v allege_v out_o of_o other_o protestant_n as_o we_o have_v see_v divers_a other_o allege_v by_o potter_n d._n laud_v in_o his_o book_n against_o fisher_n pag._n 299._o say_v i_o do_v acknowledge_v a_o possibility_n of_o salvation_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o so_o as_o that_o which_o i_o grant_v to_o romanist_n be_v not_o as_o they_o be_v romanist_n but_o as_o they_o be_v christian_n that_o be_v as_o they_o believe_v the_o creed_n and_o hold_v the_o foundation_n christ_n himself_o behold_v not_o only_o a_o possibility_n of_o salvation_n but_o also_o the_o reason_n thereof_o because_o we_o believe_v the_o creed_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v the_o very_a reason_n for_o which_o protestant_n hold_v that_o they_o themselves_o may_v be_v save_v though_o they_o differ_v in_o many_o point_n from_o one_o another_o this_o i_o say_v be_v the_o reason_n of_o d._n laud_n which_o other_o protestant_n must_v approve_v though_o in_o true_a divinity_n it_o be_v of_o no_o force_n at_o all_o for_o though_o one_o believe_v the_o creed_n and_o hold_v the_o foundation_n christ_n himself_o that_o be_v that_o he_o be_v god_n and_o saviour_n of_o the_o world_n yet_o if_o he_o deny_v any_o point_n evident_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n or_o otherwise_o sufficient_o propound_v as_o reveal_v by_o god_n he_o can_v be_v save_v even_o according_a to_o protestant_n who_o therefore_o do_v in_o this_o as_o in_o many_o other_o thing_n speak_v inconsequent_o and_o contradict_v themselves_o pag._n 376._o he_o say_v the_o religion_n of_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o romanist_n religion_n be_v the_o same_o nor_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o the_o protestant_n set_v up_o a_o different_a religion_n for_o the_o christian_a religion_n be_v the_o same_o to_o both_o but_o they_o differ_v in_o the_o same_o religion_n therefore_o say_v i_o we_o hold_v no_o fundamental_a error_n wherein_o whosoever_o differ_v can_v be_v of_o the_o same_o but_o must_v be_v of_o a_o different_a religion_n and_o pag._n 129._o the_o protestant_n have_v not_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o her_o essence_n not_o in_o the_o thing_n which_o constitute_v a_o church_n and_o pag._n 282._o he_o say_v the_o possibility_n of_o salvation_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n i_o think_v can_v be_v deny_v and_o in_o proof_n hereof_o pag._n 281._o he_o allege_n luther_n field_n joseph_n hall_n geor._n abbot_n hooker_n mornaeus_n prideaux_n calvin_n and_o d._n jeremy_n taylor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v pag._n 251._o sect_n 20._o teach_v that_o we_o keep_v the_o foundation_n and_o believe_v many_o more_o truth_n than_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v of_o simple_a and_o original_a necessity_n to_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o all_o the_o wise_a personage_n of_o the_o adverse_a party_n allow_v to_o they_o 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of_o sin_v by_o idolatry_n in_o adore_v the_o sacrament_n 10._o thus_o good_a reader_n have_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o confession_n of_o protestant_n that_o the_o first_o protestant_n who_o pretend_v to_o reform_v all_o church_n extant_a when_o they_o appear_v lead_v such_o life_n and_o teach_v such_o doctrine_n as_o no_o man_n of_o judgement_n can_v think_v they_o to_o have_v be_v fit_a instrument_n for_o that_o work_n that_o protestant_n confess_v the_o ancient_a holy_a father_n to_o stand_v for_o we_o that_o the_o chief_a protestant_a writer_n join_v with_o catholic_n against_o other_o protestant_n in_o the_o most_o principal_a article_n of_o religion_n yea_o even_o in_o those_o very_a point_n for_o which_o luther_n and_o his_o follower_n oppose_v our_o doctrine_n and_o forsake_v our_o communion_n which_o deserve_v well_o to_o be_v consider_v that_o our_o doctrine_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o miracle_n and_o final_o that_o all_o