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lord_n give_v leave_v harm_n eng._n pag._n 253._o &_o 254._o the_o augustane_n confession_n art_n 14._o concern_v ecclesiastical_a order_n they_o teach_v that_o no_o man_n 16._o de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la docent_fw-la quod_fw-la nemo_fw-la debeat_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la publicae_fw-la docere_fw-la auâ—_n sacramenta_fw-la administrare_fw-la nisi_fw-la rite_n vocatus_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o paulus_n praecipit_fw-la tito_n ut_fw-la in_o civitatibus_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la constituat_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o p._n 16._o shall_v public_o in_o the_o church_n teach_v or_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n except_o he_o be_v right_o call_v according_a as_o st._n paul_n give_v commandment_n to_o titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n harm_n eng._n p._n 258._o the_o latter_a conf._n of_o helvetia_n chap._n 18._o furthermore_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o usurp_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o 59_o nemo_fw-la autem_fw-la honorem_fw-la ministerii_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la usurpare_fw-la sibi_fw-la i._n e._n ad_fw-la se_fw-la largitionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la ullis_fw-la artibus_fw-la aut_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la proprio_fw-la rapere_fw-la debet_fw-la dâ—mnamus_n hic_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la fua_fw-la spoâ—â—â—_n currunt_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la electi_fw-la missi_fw-la nec_fw-la ordinaâ—â—_n corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 59_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n that_o be_v to_o say_v greedy_o to_o pluck_v it_o to_o he_o by_o bribe_n or_o any_o evil_a shift_n or_o of_o his_o own_o accord_n we_o do_v here_o therefore_o condemn_v all_o those_o which_o run_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n be_v neither_o choose_v send_v nor_o ordain_v harm_n engl._n p._n 236._o the_o conf._n of_o wirtemberg_n art_n 20._o neither_o be_v it_o unknown_a that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v 164._o nec_fw-la est_fw-la obscurum_fw-la qd_n christus_fw-la instituerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sva_fw-la ministros_fw-la qui_fw-la adnâ—ncient_a evangelium_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o dispensent_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la ejus_fw-la nec_fw-la permittendum_fw-la est_fw-la cuivis_fw-la quamvis_fw-la spirituali_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la legitima_fw-la vocatione_n usurpet_fw-la publicum_fw-la ministerium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 2._o pag._n 164._o institute_v minister_n who_o shall_v preach_v his_o gospel_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o every_o one_o although_o he_o be_v a_o spiritual_a priest_n to_o usurp_v a_o public_a ministry_n in_o the_o church_n without_o a_o lawful_a call_v harm_n engl._n p._n 265._o the_o english_a conf._n further_o we_o say_v that_o the_o minister_n ought_v lawful_o due_o 131._o credimus_fw-la ministrum_fw-la legitime_fw-la vocari_fw-la oportere_fw-la &_o rectè_fw-la atque_fw-la ordine_fw-la praefici_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dei_fw-la neminem_fw-la autem_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrum_fw-la ministetium_n pro_fw-la svo_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la &_o libidine_fw-la posse_fw-la se_fw-la intrudere_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 116._o see_v also_o the_o 23_o art_n among_o the_o 39_o and_o corp._n conf._n p._n 131._o and_o orderly_o to_o be_v prefer_v to_o that_o office_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o that_o no_o man_n have_v power_n ro_o wrest_v himself_o into_o the_o holy_a ministry_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n harm_n eng._n p._n 255._o propos_fw-fr iii_o in_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n beside_o election_n ordination_n be_v to_o be_v use_v where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v act._n 6._o 2._o ch_n 13._o 2._o ch_n 14._o 23._o titus_n 1._o 5._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o and_o beside_o the_o usual_a way_n of_o ordain_v by_o prayer_n fast_v and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n there_o be_v no_o other_o speak_v of_o in_o any_o confession_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n the_o conf._n of_o helvetia_n quo_fw-la supra_fw-la and_o those_o which_o be_v choose_v let_v they_o be_v ordain_v of_o the_o elder_n with_o public_a prayer_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o 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solicitous_a about_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o call_v that_o have_v a_o strong_a promise_n to_o support_v it_o to_o the_o â—nd_n of_o the_o world_n 〈…〉_o i_o humble_o offer_v my_o part_n in_o the_o answer_n follow_v some_o note_n belong_v to_o the_o treatise_n hereafter_o answer_v omit_v by_o the_o printer_n add_v therefore_o pag._n â—1_n lin_v 13._o to_o the_o margin_n budaeus_fw-la h._n steph._n thes_n p._n 35._o l._n 4._o thes_n ling._n grae._n novum_n usum_fw-la huic_fw-la verbo_fw-la tribuere_fw-la p._n 38._o l._n 16._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apud_fw-la eustach_n thes_n lin_v gre._n tom_n 1._o 1732._o c._n &_o 17â—7_n e._n carthwr_n in_o act._n 14._o 23._o p._n 29._o l._n penult_n these_o word_n shall_v have_v be_v setdown_o at_o large_a quicunque_fw-la ad_fw-la docendum_fw-la idoneus_fw-la eligitur_fw-la &_o voco_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o voce_fw-la ecclefiae_fw-la be_v verus_fw-la est_fw-la verbi_fw-la minister_n siquidem_fw-la vocatio_fw-la &_o electio_fw-la legitima_fw-la facit_fw-la ministrum_fw-la ordinatio_fw-la verò_fw-la est_fw-la illius_fw-la vocationis_fw-la declaratio_fw-la coram_fw-la coete_n ecclesiae_fw-la sicut_fw-la non_fw-la coronatio_fw-la facit_fw-la regem_fw-la sed_fw-la electio_fw-la coronatio_fw-la verò_fw-la est_fw-la soleâ—nis_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la renâ—nciatio_fw-la &_o declaratio_fw-la regis_fw-la aegid_a hun._n contra_fw-la assert_v arturi_fw-la vocatio_fw-la propriè_fw-la &_o essentialiter_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o electione_n ames_n case_n cons_n l._n 4._o c._n 25_o sect_n 28._o ordinatio_fw-la seu_fw-la consecratio_fw-la nihil_fw-la alind_a est_fw-la quà m_fw-la legitima_fw-la electio_fw-la voet._n p._n 267._o errata_n in_o the_o marg._n of_o the_o answer_n pag._n 3._o for_o essentiaam_n read_v essentiam_fw-la p._n 5._o debeat_fw-la r._n debet_fw-la p._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d r._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 17._o l._n 29._o mancipitur_fw-la r._n mancipatur_fw-la lin_v 32._o ligere_fw-la r._n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d blot_v out_o often_o p._n 66._o l._n 9_o porrectione_n r._n porrectionem_fw-la p._n 77._o l._n 1._o for_o to_o â—abylon_n r._n of_o babylon_n a_o answer_n to_o the_o tract_n bear_v title_n the_o judgement_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n and_o protestant_a divine_n concern_v ordination_n lay_v on_o of_o band_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n etc._n etc._n the_o word_n of_o the_o treatise_n be_v here_o set_v down_o without_o add_v alter_v or_o abridgement_n ordination_n be_v take_v common_o for_o a_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n after_o examination_n and_o election_n the_o answer_n 1._o in_o the_o common_a acception_n of_o the_o word_n ordination_n include_v examination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o be_v not_o a_o single_a act_n but_o a_o complicate_v so_o as_o all_o be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o ordainer_n for_o the_o solemn_a fieri_fw-la solemn_a solenne_fw-fr est_fw-fr quod_fw-la solet_fw-la fieri_fw-la constitute_n or_o set_v apart_o and_o make_v of_o he_o to_o be_v a_o minister_n who_o be_v none_o before_o ordinatio_fw-la apostolica_fw-la triplici_fw-la actione_n constabat_fw-la primus_fw-la act_n erat_fw-la praparatorius_fw-la scil_n jejunium_fw-la secundus_fw-la preces_fw-la tertius_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la nico._n hunnius_n demonstratione_n minist_n lutheran_n p._n 271._o 2._o whether_o the_o word_n minister_n or_o elder_n be_v to_o be_v take_v here_o disjunctive_o or_o exegetical_o be_v uncertain_a because_o they_o be_v sometime_o take_v for_o the_o same_o and_o sometime_o for_o several_a sort_n of_o church-officer_n that_o minister_n alone_o may_v ordain_v without_o other_o elder_n when_o the_o presbytery_n be_v not_o integrate_v be_v a_o receive_a opinion_n but_o how_o elder_n who_o be_v no_o minister_n may_v act_v in_o ordain_v be_v disputable_a 3._o as_o for_o election_n and_o examination_n whether_o you_o suppose_v they_o here_o as_o the_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n or_o of_o 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ordination_n consist_v in_o the_o appoint_v of_o such_o for_o the_o holy_a ministry_n by_o person_n in_o office_n ruth_n due_a right_n of_o presbytery_n p._n 186._o â—_o do_v have_v first_o choose_v will_v not_o easy_o be_v prove_v 23._o prove_v it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o calling_n to_o be_v choose_v by_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n dr._n fulke_o on_o act._n 14._o 23._o 4._o whereas_o you_o speak_v of_o ordination_n common_o so_o call_v you_o name_v neither_o church_n nor_o divine_a who_o state_n it_o as_o you_o do_v here_o and_o i_o think_v you_o can_v name_v none_o be_v it_o a_o act_n of_o minister_n or_o elder_n after_o examination_n and_o election_n there_o must_v be_v something_o add_v to_o make_v it_o a_o definition_n or_o description_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o quid_fw-la rei_fw-la you_o give_v we_o only_o the_o quâ—â—dâ—_n if_o your_o proof_n have_v no_o more_o strength_n than_o your_o expâ—â—ation_n have_v clearness_n and_o fullness_n you_o may_v still_o 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