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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A87430	The judgement of foraign divines as well from Geneva as other parts, touching the discipline, liturgie, and ceremonies of the Church of England. Whereunto is added a letter from Mr. Iohn Calvin to Mr. Knox, concerning the English Common-Prayer, after he had purused the same. Now published for publick information and benefit.	Calvin, Jean, 1509-1564.	1660 (1660)	Wing J1176; Thomason E1040_16; ESTC R202627	12,660	32

tollerate these things but also that they shall with their subscriptions allow them as lawful or else by their stilness foster them what can we else perswade them to do but that having witnessed their innocency ●nd in the fear of the Lord tryed all meanes they should give over their functions to open wrong But our hearts betide us of Engla●d much better things then these extremities It is demanded of us what we do judge of the trolling and discanning of the Psalmes crossing of those babes that shall be baptized and of the demands in baptisme also of the round unleavened waffer cake and kneeling in the Lords Supper We answer that kind of singing seemeth to be the corruption of the pure ancient Church service and glorifying of God therein And as for crossing of babes whatsoever practice there hath been thereof in the time of old yet is it most certain that it is truly in these days through so late greenness of the superstition so most abominable as that we judge those men to have done assuredly well that have once driven this Rite out of the Congregation whereof also we see not what the profit is And we doubt not but the demands in Baptisme have crept into the Church upon this occasion because that through the negligence of the Bishops the same forme of baptizing of children was retained which at the first rearing of the Primative Church was to be used at the baptizing of those that being of years did enter the profession of Christ This thing also we may perceive by many the like yet in use in the popish baptisme Wherefore even as the cream and charm used in baptisme are by Gods Law abolished although they were ancient so wish we also these demandings being not onely vaine but foolish should be also passed over albeit that S. Augustine himself doth seem in an Epistle of his to sustaine it by certain devised construction The bread whether it ought to be made with leaven or without we think it not greatly to be striven for although we judge it morfit and consonant with Christs institution to have the bread at the Communion which is used at the common table for why did the Lord use unleavened bread because that in that hour wherein he thought good to institute his holy Supper not one man in all Jewry used any other Therefore it behoveth us to restore the Jewish feast of unleavened bread or else must it be granted that t is better to use the common and accustomed bread of all Tables according to the example of Christ notwithstanding that the bread that he then took was unleavened For of the practise of the Primative Church which the Greek Church doth yet in this behalf retain we over passe to write of Furthermore kneeling at the very receipt of the Sacrament hath in it a shew of Godly and Christian reverence and might therefore in times past be used with profit yet for all that because out of this fountain the detestable use of bread-worship did follow and doth it in these days stick in many minds it seemeth to us that it was justly abolished out from the Congregation Therefore we do beseech the most good and great God that it would please him to instruct both the Q. Majesties highness and also the Bishops with such devise as shall be most needful for the perfect doing out of these filthes and that at once In mean time because these things also are not such as are in their own nature Idolatrous we do judge that they ought so to be dealt with as we have advised in the things going next before It is demanded of us whether we allow that Baptisme which is administred by Midwives We answer that not only we disallow the Baptisme as the rest of things before spoken of but that we do judge it also intolerable For it is a thing that hath risen as well of ignorance of the very use or Baptisme as the publique ministery of the Church We judge therefore that the Ministers are bound sharply to rebuke this abuse muchless ought they to hold this false baptisme for good and firm the reason why the learned on our side have often declared And we are also ready when it shall be needful to declare It is also reported unto us that the keys of binding and loosing are practised in certain courts of the Bishops neither by the sentences and judgments of Elders which office that Church hath not yet received nor acording to the word of God But the authority of certain Lawyers and other like which is more often times by the authority of some one man and that also for such kind of actions as are pure money matters even as the misuse of the same was in Popery Whereto we answer that it seemeth to us almost incrediable that any such customes and examples being most perverse should be used in that Kingdome whereas purity and soundness of Doctrine is For the right of excommunication and binding of the offender shall be found never to have been before the time of the Papists in the power and hand of one sole person but did appertain to all the whole Eldership from which also the people themselves were not rashly shut out Because this also the Lawyers-like hearing of suits that appertain to livings did fall to the Bishops charge altogether through abuse For that place wherein the Apostle talketh of days-men umpires at Corinth is to no purpose whereas the Majestrate is a Christian nor did the Apostle ever think to burthen the Eldership with the hearing of such meer civil causes And it is most certain that the Bishops of the elder Age of the Church have had the determining of such controversies not for any authority that they had therein but through the importunity of suters and that as houshoulders umpires and dayes-men also notwitstanding among those men where this were shewed unto those did most wisely govern themselves which chose rather to follow the example of Christ our Saviour who refused to be the umpire in dividing of the patrimony or else judge in the matter of adultery when both the same were preferred unto him Therefore if in England any thing be done contrary to this surely we ought to think that by such sentences and judgements there is not any man before God any more bound then by the Popish excommunications And we wish that this torment-house of consciences and lothsome prophanation of the Ecclesiastical and meer spiritual jurisdiction might by the authority of the Queens Majestie out of hand be abolished no otherwise then the marring of the very Doctrine it self And that Eldership and Deacons may be restored and set up according to the word of God and canons of the pure Church which thing if it be not done verily we are sore afraid that this onely thing will be the beginning of many calamities which we would God would turn away from us For it is most certain that the son of God