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A39265 The Protestant resolved, or, A discourse shewing the unreasonableness of his turning Roman Catholick for salvation Ellis, Clement, 1630-1700.; Sherlock, William, 1641?-1707. 1688 (1688) Wing E569; ESTC R6293 60,365 84

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