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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A78779	The door of truth opened: or, A brief and true narrative of the occasion how Mr Henry Burton came to shut himself out of the church-doors of Aldermanbury: published in answer to a paper, called, Truth shut out of doors: for the vindication of the minister and people of Aldermanbury, who are in this paper most wrongfully and unjustly charged; and also for the undeceiving of the underwriters, and of all those that are misinformed about this businesse. In the name, and with the consent of the whole church of Aldermanburie.	Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.	1645 (1645)	Wing C230; Thomason E311_13; ESTC R200459	16,016	20

Assembly of Ministers are studying to settle Religion and labouring to heal our breaches should be separating from us Thus much he confesseth he said But now whereas it is added he should say And that you may be sure your Scribe did mistake M. Calamies Sermon consider that one passage though of no great consequence M. Calamie said Is not this to croud people into separated Congregations And your Notary hath it Into secret Congregations That this is a sin to be ashamed for That while a house is a purging men should separate from the defilements and not waite to see what the purging will be He conceives this to be either the wilfull or ignorant mistake of his Notary And he desires M. Burton would name another witnesse if he can For the Apostle saith Receive not an accusation against an Elder under two or three witnesses He never thought much lesse preached that we should joyne with a defiled Church in her defilements It is one thing to joyne with a Church in her corruptions Another thing to separate from a true Church because of some defilements that may be in it And this is that for which we thinke people ought to be ashamed and confounded Because for some few and those but supposed defilements they separate not onely from defilements but from the true Churches of Jesus Christ and ingage themselves into separated Congregations and doe not waite and tarry to see what Reformation the Parliament will make And this is no more then five as we remember of your brethren have written as their judgement in print And therefore what M. Burton writes in his margin to prove that every one ought to day before to morrow to separate from present defilements is but to fight with his own shadow For though we must separate frō the defilements of a Church yet we are not to separate from a Church for every defilement that is in it The Church of Corinth had many defilements in it as many we believe as the Church of Alderman-bury And so had divers of the Churches to which Christ wrote And yet neither Christ nor his Apostles doth perswade the people to separate from those Churches because of the defilements And if this doctrine were true doctrine we believe men will soon finde cause to separate from some of their Churches A letter written by M John Batchelor as well as ours The time was when in print the Church of Alderman-bury was accounted a true Church even by one of his owne way And we can assure him That it is much purer now then it was then But he addes in his Margin That each man in his place and each Minister in his place must forthwithfall to a purging out the defilements not knowing what others purging may prove to be and how long we may waite when in the interim we and our house may perish in our defilements But to this we answer First That we would gladly know what these defilements are that he saith are still in our Churches Secondly How will he prove that these defilements are of such a soul-destroying nature that they that live in them must necessarily perish Thirdly Doth he not directly tell us in this passage That we must not waite to see what Reformation the Parliament will make And is not this an unexpressible prejudice to their proceedings Fourthly It is our opinion That every Minister and every man ought so to administer and so to partake of Gods ordinances as not to sin in the administration and participation of them And this they ought to doe to day before to morrow But we conceive and if it were a fit oportunity would prove that this may be done without separation from us It is one thing to keep our selves pure from pollution another thing to gather Churches out of Churches and to set up a new frame of Government according to the private judgement of the Minister and people of every particular Church This we conceive to be his practice and of dangerous consequence and for this we thinke he hath no warrant in the Word but that he ought to waite yet longer upon the Magistrates establishment The Scripture gives much power to Magistrates in purging of Churches when corrupted As we may perceive by the examples of Asa Hezekiah and Josiah But we are very glad to reade in his Margin that he makes mention of our solemne League and Covenant And we hope he will remember that he hath sworne to indeavour the extirpation of Heresy Schisme and profanenesse and to bring the Churches of God in the three Kingdomes to the neerest conjunction and uniformity c. M. Burton goeth on in repeating M. Calamies sermon according as his one onely witnesse did dictate unto him And he saith That he preached that we should likewise be ashamed and confounded that any should preach That it is Idolatry to waite upon the Parliament or Assembly and that it is above all corporall Idolatry to waite upon them till they settle a Government And here he triumphs exceedingly and insults such is his spirit as much over M. Calamy as he did before over the Parish Clerke He saith he hopes that M. Calamy will in his next solemne day of Humiliation finde just cause publikely to confesse Let us be ashamed and confounded And in another part of his Narrative speaking of the same thing he saith O that I might heare a second voice in Alderman-bury pulpit and that on the like solemne Fast day Let us be ashamed and confounded that we have bin ashamed of the truth more precious then our lives and have shut it ourt of doors c. But let M. Burton tell us whether he be in jest or in good earnest Doth he think that any meek or humble Christian will approve of this language For our parts we will not censure him but mourne for him Doth he not thinke that this is a sinne to be bewailed that it should be preached That it is worse then corporall Idolatry to waite upon the Parliament to see what Government they will settle Is this Doctrine a Truth more precious then our lives Is this doctrine a cleare and undoubted truth For so much he seems to say in expresse termes in his Narrative in these words And being at the very worst a clear and undoubted truth which words we cannot but wonder at and we believe when the Reader ponders them he will stand amazed at them Object But M. Burton saith That he did not preach as it is here set down Answ But to this it is answered 1. That now he owns it as it is heere set down as a clear and an undoubted truth 2. That M. Calamy did not name him by name But to this he replieth in his conference with M. Calamy That he needed not to name you for all that heard both you and me understand plainly enough you did mean me so fresh it is in memory But in this answer of his he doth seem ingenuously