Selected quad for the lemma: judgement_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
judgement_n	according_a	body_n	soul_n	1,459	5	5.0500	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90523	A defence of church-government, exercised in presbyteriall, classicall, & synodall assemblies; according to the practise of the reformed churches: touching I. The power of a particular eldership, against those that plead for a meere popular government, specially Mr Ainsvvorth in his Animadversion to Mr Clyft. &c. II. The authority of classes and synods, against the patrons of independencie: answering in this poynt Mr Davenport his Apologeticall reply, &c. and Mr Canne his Churches plea, &c, sent forth first by W. Best, and afterwards for this part of it, under the title of Syons prerogative royall. By Iohn Paget, late able and faithfull pastour of the Reformed English Church in Amsterdam. Hereunto is prefixed an advertisement to the Parliament, wherein are inserted some animadversions on the Cheshire Remonstrance against Presbytery: by T.P.	Paget, John, d. 1640.; Paget, Thomas, d. 1660.	1641 (1641)	Wing P166; Thomason E117_1; ESTC R16734	348,418	298

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for_o one_o act_n he_o raven_v as_o the_o wolf_n of_o benjamin_n gen._n 49.27_o yet_o the_o authority_n remain_v in_o he_o &_o not_o in_o those_o that_o disobey_v he_o subjection_n unto_o authority_n be_v show_v if_o not_o by_o obedience_n yet_o by_o patience_n in_o suffer_v according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n if_o need_v require_v 3._o but_o that_o any_o of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v subject_n shall_v go_v further_a to_o execute_v civil_a judgement_n when_o the_o ruler_n neglect_v justice_n this_o be_v not_o prove_v by_o leu._n 20.2_o 4._o the_o people_n their_o mention_a be_v not_o the_o subject_n consider_v apart_o from_o their_o ruler_n but_o under_o the_o title_n of_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n there_o speak_v unto_o be_v comprehend_v principal_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o people_n &_o ruler_n of_o israel_n the_o other_o people_n if_o they_o do_v mourn_v in_o themselves_o &_o complain_v unto_o other_o for_o the_o redress_n of_o such_o evil_n be_v not_o to_o be_v blame_v but_o have_v the_o mark_n of_o god_n favour_n upon_o they_o ezek._n 8.6_o with_o ezek._n 9.4_o h._n ainsw._n 20._o ainsw._n animadv_n p._n 20._o i_o find_v how_o in_o naboth_n case_n though_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a fact_n there_o be_v a_o solemn_a fast_o and_o assembly_n of_o the_o people_n with_o their_o governor_n 1._o kin._n 21.12_o 13._o answ._n but_o you_o find_v not_o one_o word_n there_o to_o prove_v any_o power_n in_o the_o people_n either_o to_o condemn_v or_o to_o absolve_v &_o acquit_v naboth_n the_o presence_n of_o the_o people_n be_v note_v but_o the_o kill_n of_o naboth_n be_v asscribe_v unto_o the_o elder_n and_o noble_n of_o the_o city_n according_a to_o that_o which_o jezebel_n require_v of_o they_o ibid._n vers_fw-la 9_o 10_o 11._o h._n ainsw._n ibid._n ainsw._n ibid._n in_o jeremies_n case_n he_o be_v accuse_v to_o the_o prince_n and_o people_n make_v his_o defence_n to_o prince_n &_o people_n and_o be_v acquit_v by_o prince_n &_o people_n jerem._n 26.11_o 12_o 16._o answ._n this_o action_n be_v patt_o tumultuous_a at_o the_o first_o not_o much_o unlike_a that_o when_o paul_n be_v so_o violent_o hale_v and_o accuse_v unto_o the_o people_n act._n 21.27_o 28._o and_o when_o it_o grow_v into_o order_n by_o help_n of_o the_o prince_n it_o appear_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o judgement_n be_v in_o the_o ruler_n for_o 1._o the_o prince_n be_v express_o name_v in_o each_o part_n of_o the_o action_n in_o the_o accusation_n bring_v to_o they_o in_o hear_v the_o defence_n &_o in_o give_v of_o the_o sentence_n and_o therefore_o nothing_o be_v do_v without_o their_o authority_n 2._o whereas_o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o the_o people_n together_o with_o the_o prince_n vers_fw-la 11_o 16._o there_o some_o learned_a 11._o learned_a trem._n &_o jun._n in_o jer._n 26._o see_v also_o corn._n bertr_n de_fw-fr polit._n jud._n cap._n 6._o &_o 11._o interpreter_n do_v translate_v it_o for_o explication_n seniores_fw-la populi_fw-la that_o be_v the_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n and_o this_o agree_v with_o the_o text_n vers_fw-la 17._o where_o there_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o land_n rise_v up_o out_o of_o their_o seat_n and_o speak_v to_o the_o multitude_n as_o well_o as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o court_n that_o come_v up_o from_o the_o king_n house_n vers_n 10_o 16._o even_o in_o that_o part_n of_o the_o government_n which_o be_v democraticall_a and_o popular_a yet_o be_v there_o some_o ruler_n represent_v the_o people_n 3._o person_n accuse_v do_v sometime_o speak_v to_o their_o accuser_n for_o refutation_n of_o they_o as_o jeremy_n here_o may_v do_v unto_o a_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n that_o have_v deal_v so_o unjust_o with_o he_o vers_n 8_o 9_o and_o yet_o without_o allow_v they_o to_o have_v authority_n in_o give_v sentence_n against_o he_o h._n ainsw._n 20._o ainsw._n animadv_n p._n 20._o when_o king_n saul_n swear_v that_o jonathan_n shall_v die_v the_o people_n swear_v the_o contrary_a &_o save_v he_o from_o death_n 1._o sam._n 14.39_o 44_o 45._o answ._n 1_o it_o be_v not_o evident_a and_o certain_a that_o the_o people_n do_v peremptory_o swear_v the_o contrary_a for_o according_a to_o the_o translation_n of_o learned_a 14._o learned_a trem._n &_o jun_n in_o 1._o sam._n 14._o interpreter_n the_o word_n in_o the_o text_n may_v be_v read_v not_o by_o way_n of_o absolute_a affirmation_n but_o by_o way_n of_o interrogation_n on_o this_o manner_n as_o the_o lord_n live_v ought_v there_o a_o hair_n to_o fall_v from_o his_o head_n whereby_o it_o be_v understand_v that_o the_o people_n do_v adjure_v saul_n appeal_n unto_o his_o conscience_n before_o the_o live_a god_n that_o he_o will_v have_v regard_n of_o right_n &_o equity_n rather_o than_o of_o his_o oath_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o agree_v with_o the_o judgement_n which_o some_o be_v 14._o be_v pet._n mart._n on_o 1._o sam._n 14._o note_v to_o have_v hereof_o viz._n that_o the_o people_n by_o entreat_v &_o persuade_v of_o saul_n do_v save_o jonathan_n rather_o than_o by_o force_n 2._o by_o the_o people_n in_o that_o place_n we_o be_v to_o understand_v not_o the_o common_a people_n only_o but_o all_o the_o prince_n &_o ruler_n of_o the_o people_n who_o authority_n in_o such_o case_n be_v more_o than_o of_o a_o multitude_n of_o other_o people_n and_o this_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o text_n vers_fw-la 40_o 41._o where_o in_o cast_v of_o the_o lot_n all_o israel_n be_v set_v on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o saul_n with_o jonathan_n on_o the_o other_o side_n so_o that_o all_o the_o noble_n and_o governor_n of_o israel_n all_o beside_o saul_n and_o his_o son_n be_v there_o include_v under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o people_n 3._o this_o case_n be_v also_o extraordinary_a the_o question_n be_v not_o only_o about_o the_o king_n son_n &_o his_o elder_a son_n but_o such_o a_o son_n as_o with_o who_o god_n have_v wrought_v miraculous_o at_o the_o same_o time_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o israel_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o 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persecutor_n do_v fear_v the_o people_n and_o their_o rage_n be_v in_o part_n bridle_v while_o they_o have_v absolute_a and_o full_a authority_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o execute_v judgement_n according_a to_o the_o form_n of_o their_o government_n only_o the_o shame_n of_o injustice_n &_o cruelty_n restrain_v they_o as_o on_o the_o contrary_n they_o be_v bold_a to_o exercise_v their_o authority_n and_o cruelty_n when_o they_o see_v that_o it_o please_v the_o people_n as_o act._n 12.2_o 3._o &_o 24.27_o h._n ainsw._n ibid._n ainsw._n ibid._n the_o people_n as_o well_o as_o the_o ruler_n be_v call_v before_o pilate_n about_o christ_n death_n luk._n 23.13_o and_o by_o their_o voice_n prevayl_v matt._n 27.20_o 22_o 25_o 26._o luk._n 23.23_o answ._n 1_o the_o people_n be_v call_v before_o pilate_n with_o the_o priest_n &_o scribe_n as_o be_v the_o accuser_n of_o christ_n luk._n 23.1_o 2_o 4_o 5._o joh._n 19.12_o but_o this_o call_n of_o they_o prove_v no_o part_n of_o their_o power_n in_o 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7.3_o 4._o and_o against_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n itself_o which_o teach_v even_o the_o wicked_a pilate_n to_o take_v water_n and_o wash_v his_o hand_n before_o the_o multitude_n &_o to_o make_v public_a protestation_n of_o his_o innocency_n against_o they_o that_o be_v author_n of_o unrighteous_a judgement_n matt._n 27.24_o joh._n 18.38_o &_o 19.4_o thus_o do_v your_o writing_n lead_v man_n into_o contrary_a extremity_n thus_o far_o for_o answer_v unto_o your_o own_o reason_n a_o argument_n on_o the_o contrary_a side_n bring_v to_o show_v the_o freedom_n of_o the_o people_n in_o come_v or_o not_o come_v to_o hear_v the_o examination_n &_o conviction_n go_v before_o the_o censure_n and_o to_o show_v that_o the_o people_n be_v not_o bind_v thereunto_o be_v thus_o set_v down_o because_o etc._n because_o r._n clyf_n advertism_n p._n 42._o rom._n 12.7.8_o 1._o thes_n 5.12_o 13._o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o 18._o as_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v in_o great_a congregation_n and_o when_o many_o 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church_n which_o be_v the_o title_n then_o give_v unto_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o his_o word_n of_o have_v as_o a_o publican_n &_o heathen_a do_v manifest_o prove_v he_o mean_v to_o speak_v according_a to_o their_o custom_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o also_o in_o his_o 276._o his_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276._o general_a description_n of_o a_o presbytery_n comprehend_v under_o it_o as_o well_o the_o government_n of_o many_o church_n by_o synod_n as_o of_o one_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o eldership_n thereof_o for_o the_o proof_n and_o warrant_v of_o one_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o he_o allege_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18.18_o even_o as_o he_o do_v other_o place_n take_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n under_o the_o law_n mr_n brightman_n when_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v appoint_v a_o more_o accurate_a order_n for_o remove_v all_o of_o less_o offence_n then_o that_o which_o the_o pharisee_n observe_v who_o corrupt_v 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not_o subject_a to_o their_o censure_n nor_o under_o their_o jurisdiction_n junius_n 6._o junius_n ibid._n in_o c._n 27._o n._n 6._o deny_v this_o distinction_n for_o though_o say_v he_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o it_o take_v place_n in_o foro_fw-la soli_fw-la in_o civil_a court_n to_o wit_n for_o the_o judge_n of_o prince_n yet_o be_v it_o of_o no_o force_n in_o foro_fw-la coeli_fw-la et_fw-la conscientiae_fw-la in_o ecclesiastical_a judicatories_n because_o the_o reason_n of_o they_o be_v not_o alike_o etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o next_o animadversion_n 7._o animadversion_n n._n 7._o speak_v still_o of_o those_o law_n &_o canon_n make_v by_o synod_n he_o affirm_v that_o as_o every_o other_o bishop_n so_o the_o pope_n also_o be_v subject_n unto_o they_o according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n when_o bellarmine_n say_v the_o council_n or_o synod_n of_o the_o greek_n can_v not_o make_v a_o law_n for_o the_o latin_n etc._n etc._n junius_n 33._o junius_n n._n 16._o see_v also_o n._n 33._o deny_v the_o same_o and_o give_v a_o reason_n because_o that_o synod_n be_v ecumenical_a or_o universal_a therein_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o have_v a_o great_a authority_n then_o only_o to_o admonish_v or_o counsel_v again_o when_o bellarmine_n answer_v the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n say_v that_o the_o pope_n be_v not_o subject_a to_o canon_n viz._n of_o synod_n etc._n etc._n that_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o christ_n &_o not_o to_o the_o father_n that_o he_o do_v not_o contemn_v the_o father_n nor_o their_o canon_n but_o use_v they_o for_o direction_n though_o he_o can_v be_v compel_v by_o they_o etc._n etc._n junius_n 40._o junius_n n._n 40._o oppose_v he_o further_o &_o say_v 42._o say_v n._n 42._o that_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v subject_a both_o to_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o father_n by_o christ_n who_o have_v so_o prescribe_v 1._o cor._n 14.29_o 32._o and_o add_v further_a 46._o further_a n._n 46._o if_o he_o can_v be_v compel_v by_o the_o canon_n that_o he_o be_v therefore_o right_o call_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o wicked_a one_o or_o lawless_a person_n 2._o thes_n 2._o whereas_o some_o now_o adays_o begin_v to_o speak_v evil_a of_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n as_o of_o a_o antichristian_a authority_n junius_n be_v so_o far_o opposite_a unto_o they_o that_o he_o account_v the_o pope_n even_o in_o this_o regard_n to_o be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n because_o he_o refuse_v to_o be_v subject_a unto_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o their_o canon_n and_o decree_n moreover_o in_o compare_v of_o the_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a estate_n junius_n say_v 27._o say_v ibid._n in_o c._n 29._o n._n 27._o king_n have_v their_o authority_n in_o civil_a matter_n rom._n 13._o and_o the_o synod_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n above_o the_o pope_n as_o it_o be_v define_v in_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basel_n and_o their_o authority_n be_v so_o

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they_o have_v authority_n to_o hear_v &_o determine_v etc._n etc._n that_o which_o mr_n dau._n omit_v and_o refuse_v to_o express_v serve_v to_o reproove_v such_o as_o complain_v unjust_o of_o except_v against_o the_o elder_n judgement_n for_o when_o that_o 62_o article_n speak_v of_o appeal_n to_o be_v make_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n the_o minister_n senior_n &_o party_n except_v this_o latter_a clause_n show_v there_o be_v just_a cause_n of_o except_v against_o the_o elder_n judgement_n sometime_o and_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v refuse_v as_o incompetent_a judge_n be_v party_n this_o brief_a clause_n be_v of_o special_a use_n in_o our_o controversy_n ought_v not_o to_o have_v be_v omit_v by_o mr_n dau._n ii_o that_o which_o they_o allege_v for_o appeal_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n do_v not_o overthrow_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n this_o grant_v one_o kind_n of_o appeal_n do_v not_o exclude_v or_o deny_v another_o see_v particular_a congregation_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n and_o many_o of_o they_o daily_o do_v err_v why_o shall_v not_o appeal_v be_v grant_v from_o they_o unto_o class_n and_o synod_n especial_o where_o there_o be_v no_o magistrate_n that_o can_v or_o will_v judge_v of_o such_o error_n iii_o this_o appeal_v make_v unto_o the_o body_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v not_o usual_o permit_v but_o extraordinary_o in_o case_n of_o special_a necessity_n when_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n be_v not_o able_a to_o end_v the_o controversy_n bring_v unto_o they_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o article_n be_v 57_o be_v ●isc_fw-la of_o troubl_n in_o engl_n ch._n at_o franckf_n art_n 57_o in_o case_n they_o can_v end_v they_o than_o afterward_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o whole_a congregation_n their_o ordinary_a practice_n be_v otherwise_o as_o appear_v in_o other_o article_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o it_o be_v plain_o ordain_v 59_o ordain_v ibid._n art_n 59_o that_o the_o minister_n and_o senior_n shall_v have_v authority_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o offence_n determinable_a by_o the_o congregation_n commit_v by_o any_o person_n in_o the_o congregation_n unless_o the_o party_n call_v before_o they_o have_v just_a occasion_n to_o take_v exception_n to_o the_o say_a minister_n and_o senior_n or_o to_o appeal_v from_o they_o as_o not_o competent_a judge_n and_o afterward_o again_o there_o be_v another_o strict_a and_o severe_a decree_n 63._o decree_n art_n 63._o if_o any_o person_n do_v unjust_o take_v exception_n to_o any_o of_o the_o minister_n or_o appeal_v from_o the_o whole_a ministry_n that_o then_o such_o person_n beside_o the_o punishment_n for_o the_o principal_a cause_n shall_v also_o be_v punish_v as_o a_o contemner_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o a_o disturber_n of_o the_o church_n this_o order_n as_o it_o serve_v to_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o brownist_n as_o tend_v to_o the_o disturbance_n 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