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A16999 A replie vpon the R.R.P.Th. VVinton. for heads of his divinity in his sermon and survey Hovv he taught a perfect truth, that our Lord vvent he[n]ce to Paradise: but adding that he vvent thence to Hades, & striving to prove that, he iniureth all learning & christianitie. To the most honorable henry prince of Great Britany. Broughton, Hugh, 1549-1612. 1605 (1605) STC 3881; ESTC S113850 11,782 50

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A REPLIE VPON THER R. F. TH. VVINTON FOR HEADS OF HIS DIVINITY IN HIS SERMON AND SVRVEY Hovv he taught a perfect truth that our Lord vvent hēce to Paradise But adding that he vvent thence to Hades striving to prove that he injurieth all learning Christianitie TO THE MOST NOBLE HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANY 1605. TO THE MOST NOBLE HENRY PRINCE OF GREAT BRITANIE Grace truth IN handling the LORds prayer most noble Prince at O●landes August 13. 1603. VVhen I came to speake of the Kingdome to come the matter called me to handle these vvordes Lord remember thou me when thou comest to thy Kingdome these This day shalt thou be with me in Paradise From vvhich both I affirmed that the thefe beleved rightly as all the Scribes Pharisees that the soules of the just of Abel and all that died since vvent hence to that place vvich Diuines call Heauē And I affirmed from Eccles 3. from the 12. 2. Cor. 10. that the soules of all men ascend vnto God vnto judgement to receaue according to the actions done by the body good or euell And this I added from Apoc. 14 That the wicked are tormented afore the throne of God the Lambe This belonging directly to the doctrine of the Kingdome I vvas to shevv hovv the Crede stroue not vvith this yf the English had rightly expressed the Greke he went vnto the soules departed as this he arose from the dead or from Hades makes the former vvordes plain About this doctrine D. Bilson B. of Vv. hath dealt not vvell A survey of vvhose dealings your G. shall see that knovving hovv he is damned of himselfe you may vvish him to recant First he agreeth vvith the truth in most stronge sort that we have no warrant by scripture to deny that our Lord went hence to Paradise His vvordes are printed in Copies about ten thousand that all may knovv hovv D. Bilson in his further paynes confuteth the Bishop of vvinchester He that vvill do any thing in Diuinity vvithout vvarrant of Scripture shall anger God Therfor D. Bilson is vnexcusable vvhen he goeth against that An other article the right reverend father hath for Christianity the ground of our redemptiō more ridiculous then any thing in Machmads Alkoran vvorthy to be vvritten in great letters that any rūning by may see to vvhat strange cōceites he vvold dravv the holy Prophetes Apostles Fathers all Britanie In his Sermon thus the right reverend father vvritteth fol. 154. The sence of the Crede may must be ●s●at Chri H●f●er his body was buried in soule descended into that place which the Scripture proprely calleth Hades hell This fevv vvordes are enough to shame all our nation for euer touching judgment in Diuinitie since Publiq auctoritie hath commended his vvorke Homer that expresseth all the Heathen vanities durst neuer bring this Diuinitie but only in a dreame In him and in Iliade or story of Ilion called also Troy book 23. v. 71. the soule of Patrocles killed sayth to Achilles his Prince in a dreame requesting to to be buried because the soules in Hades vvold not suffre his soule till then to come to Hades Oh bury me that I may quickly passe through the gates of Hades They vvho svveat to make the Gospell of saluation in sadnes more ridiculous then Heathen fables should look for the extraordinary hand of God to send them to Hades quickly What man that vvere not brainsik vvold think that the Cred should tell hovv our Lord in body crucified dead buryed should in soule be vnrecorded vvhither the soule vvent or vvher it should be till the body vvas buried A Defender in title a betrayer in truth of our religion in Britanie should b● told that better lerning vvold beseme a man a D. in D. a R. R. F. All Ievves vvold by this vvel might hold vs the vilest that euer vvere since Cains birth yf they could convict vs to be of such a religion all Christendome vvold hate vs as traytours to the Christian faith He that taketh vpon him to defend the cōmon opiniō once graunteth all that the disputation required inventeth of his ovvne braine that vvhich none hold injurieth all the state and giving a Patroclean dreame for the marravv of salvatiō should have vpon stuburne continuance in errour the heavy Anathema maran Atha The curse Our Lord himself cometh to revenge him pronounced against him God commaundeth that 1 Cor. 16. And every commādement of God should be of as great reverence as his vvord in sayng Let light be it vvas An other condemnation of himself the right reverēd father hath in his survey fol. 543. Thus he sayth That Christ after death went to the place where the faithfull were the fa●h●rs affirme Thē yf Abrahams Bosom be the place vvhere the faithfull vvere they vveare in Hades by the Grek fathers infinitely vsing the phrase of the Crede The Hades of the Crede Abrahams bosom is all one It is strange that a reasonable creature should make a book against himself A further condemnatiō of himself he findeth from Luc. 16. The holy Evangelist most eloquent in the Greek tongue vvriting to an heathen Prince Theophilus Asiarches one of the Lords of Asia bringeth Abraham talking vvith the Epicure in Hades Novv heathen place all soules in Hades and Theophilus vvould so vnderstand S. Luke that Abraham should be there And disputers together be allvvayes holden to be in the same vvorld The right re●erend father vvold prove that Hades is Hell from this place vvhich most mightily proueth the cleane contrary that the faithfull Abraham vvho vvent hence to heaven Eb. 11. there abideth till the resurrection vvas in Hades So the terme is generall for the vvorld of Soules And auctours vvhom he citeth vvould haue taught him so much Chrisostome in a Greke Homilie not yet printed of Lazarus the Epicure Theophylact citing manie Diuines vpon Luc. 16. Tertullian Ambrose Chrisologus cited by him self on that place Iosephus cited also by himself expresly placeth Abrahams bosom in Hades And that vvork is so agreable to the common judgement of Graecia that the vvork is fathered vpon Irenaeus the ancient Bishop nere the Apostles and vpon sundry others of fame And vvheras the Doctour vvold haue Hell lovv in the earth and must graunt that Abraham is in Heauen so the spech should be ridiculous that in a Dialoge one should talke vvith one aboue his head of such infinite millions of miles distāce And the spech of lifting vp the eyes argueth equall height So Lot lifted vp his eyes saw the Land about fayre Gen. 13.10 So God sayd to Abraham lift vp thy●e ey●s behold the place wher thou art Gen. 13.14 The third day Abraham lifted vp his eies beho●d the p●a●e ●f whi●h God spake to him c. So Abraham l●fted vp h●s eyes saw three men Gen. 18. So Abraham l●fted vp his eies behold