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be_v subject_n unto_o god_n it_o be_v write_v geve_v unto_o god_n that_o belong_v unto_o god_n geve_v unto_o caesar_n that_o belong_v unto_o caesar_n but_o as_o s._n ambrose_n saithe_v the_o emperor_n have_v no_o power_n over_o god_n cause_n so_o may_v we_o likewise_o and_o
as_o true_o say_v the_o pope_n have_v no_o power_n over_o god_n cause_n s._n chrysostome_n saithe_v siquidem_fw-la est_fw-la in_o causa_fw-la fidei_fw-la fuge_fw-la illum_fw-la &_o evita_n 34._o non_fw-la solùm_fw-la si_fw-la homo_fw-la fuerit_fw-la verùm_fw-la etiam_fw-la si_fw-la angelus_n de_fw-fr coelo_fw-la descenderit_fw-la if_o it_o be_v a_o mater_n of_o faith_n wherein_o he_o seek_v to_o abuse_v thou_o flee_v he_o and_o shun_v he_o not_o only_o if_o he_o be_v a_o man_n but_o also_o if_o a_o angel_n shall_v come_v down_o from_o heaven_n thus_o it_o appear_v s._n ambrose_n refuse_v not_o the_o emperor_n power_n and_o authority_n of_o judgement_n in_o case_n ecclesiastical_a but_o only_o his_o wilful_a ignorance_n &_o his_o tyranny_n for_o that_o he_o know_v traeâ—tari_fw-la his_o judgement_n be_v corrupt_v and_o not_o indifferente_a and_o for_o that_o cause_n he_o saithe_v venissem_fw-la imperator_fw-la ad_fw-la consistorium_fw-la clementiae_fw-la tuus_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o my_o lord_n i_o will_v have_v make_v my_o appearance_n at_o your_o consistory_n to_o have_v utter_v these_o thing_n in_o your_o presence_n if_o either_o the_o bishop_n or_o the_o people_n will_v have_v suffer_v i_o for_o they_o tell_v i_o that_o matter_n of_o faith_n ought_v to_o be_v dispute_v in_o the_o church_n open_o before_o the_o people_n again_o he_o saithe_v veniant_fw-la sanè_fw-la si_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la audiant_fw-la cum_fw-la populo_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la quisquam_fw-la resideat_fw-la judex_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la de_fw-la svo_fw-la affectu_fw-la habeat_fw-la examen_fw-la &_o eligat_fw-la quem_fw-la sequatur_fw-la let_v they_o hardly_o come_v to_o the_o church_n let_v they_o hearken_v together_o with_o the_o people_n not_o that_o any_o man_n shall_v sit_v as_o judge_n but_o yâ—_z every_o man_n mai_fw-gr after_o his_o own_o mind_n examine_v the_o matter_n &_o so_o choose_v who_o he_o may_v follow_v of_o such_o tyranny_n 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authority_n and_o commandment_n we_o be_v take_v by_o the_o soldier_n and_o carry_v to_o prison_n therefore_o he_o saithe_v fiat_n ecclesiastica_fw-la synodus_fw-la longè_fw-la à _fw-la palatio_fw-la ubi_fw-la nec_fw-la imperator_fw-la praesto_fw-la est_fw-la literas_fw-la nec_fw-la comes_fw-la se_fw-la ingerit_fw-la nec_fw-la judex_fw-la minatur_fw-la &_o ubi_fw-la solus_fw-la timor_fw-la dei_fw-la ad_fw-la omne_fw-la sufficit_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v there_o be_v make_v a_o ecclesiastical_a synod_n far_o from_o the_o emperor_n palace_n where_o as_o neither_o the_o emperor_n be_v present_a nor_o the_o lieutenant_n thrust_v in_o himself_o nor_o the_o judge_n with_o his_o threat_n make_v man_n afraid_a but_o where_o as_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n to_o all_o pourpose_n be_v sufficient_a for_o this_o cause_n s._n ambrose_n refuse_v to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o emperor_n valentinian_n that_o be_v to_o say_v as_o than_o it_o be_v by_o a_o rasshe_n young_a man_n by_o a_o man_n unbaptise_v and_o therefore_o no_o christian_a by_o a_o tyrant_n and_o by_o a_o arian_n heretic_n that_o utter_o deny_v the_o godhedde_n of_o christ_n otherwise_o athanasius_n himself_o be_v well_o content_v to_o commit_v his_o whole_a cause_n unto_o the_o emperor_n for_o thus_o he_o saithe_v postulamus_fw-la causam_fw-la istam_fw-la pientissimo_fw-la imperatori_fw-la reseruari_fw-la multas_fw-la apud_fw-la quem_fw-la licebit_fw-la &_o iura_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o nostra_fw-la proponere_fw-la planè_fw-la enim_fw-la confidimus_fw-la eius_fw-la pietatem_fw-la cognitis_fw-la nostris_fw-la rationibus_fw-la nequaquam_fw-la nos_fw-la coudemnaturam_fw-la esse_fw-la we_o require_v that_o the_o emperor_n most_o godly_a and_o most_o religious_a majesty_n may_v have_v the_o hear_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n before_o who_o we_o may_v open_v both_o our_o church_n right_o and_o also_o our_o own_o for_o we_o have_v good_a hope_n that_o his_o godliness_n understand_v our_o reason_n will_v never_o condemn_v us._n 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