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A30032 New Rome unmask'd and her foundation shaken by a farther discovery of the grand errors, deep hypocrisies, popish practices, and pernitious principles of the teachers and leaders of the people call'd Quakers : containing also a brief answer to three books wrote by G. Whitehead, one of her chief cardinals ... against Fran. Bugg ... : as also a brief narrative between the said G. Whitehead and Fran. Bugg ... / by Francis Bugg. Bugg, Francis, 1640-1724? 1692 (1692) Wing B5378; ESTC R34387 122,825 141

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might not G. W. as well carp at the Apostle Paul's words 1 Cor. 6.12 where he said All things are lawful unto me but all things are not expedient All things are lawful for me but I will not be brought under the power of any Might not G. W. say How now Paul what are all things lawful to thee what is this that and the other thing lawful for I find no distinguishing word in the whole Verse But in the next Verse G. W. may see the Apostle only meant indifferent things which some differed about and which he left them to their liberty in as meats c. for some eat herbs and others strong meats viz. ver 13. Meats for the belly and the belly for meats but God shall destroy both it and them c. So that eating Flesh Fish Herbs or other things this that or the other day the publishing Marriage before or not before the Womens Meetings are things in their own Nature indifferent and free and according to the Apostles and Martyrs words we ought to be left free in the use of them THE THIRD CHARGE THAT GEORGE WHITEHEAD IS A FAVOVRER OR AN EXCVSER OF SVCH PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICES AS BORDER VPON BLASPHEMY AND IDOLATRY For the Proof of this Charge I shall before I proceed to the matter of the Conference recite a Parallel between the Practices of the Papists giving Divine Attributes to their Saint Thomas Becket and divers Popes which by all Protestants are accounted Idolatrous and Blasphemous And the Quakers giving and attributing to G. Fox in his Life-time Divine Attributes and Eternal Honour which is equally Idolatrous and Blasphemous and at his Funeral preached him to be the great Apostle Prophet and Jacob of the Age that so it may still appear how nigh of Kin they are giving also a hint of the Beginning Rise and Advancement of both the said Thomas Becket and G. Fox in two Columns for the help of the Reader viz. IT is written of Thomas Becket Guilielmus Neubregensis lib. 2. cap. 16. that his Father was a Brewer in London and a Jew and that from his House began a Fire in the days of King Stephen that consumed all the one side of London from the Bridge where he dwelt unto Temple-Bar And that King Henry II. took this Thomas Becket into his Favour and from being Archdeacon of Canterbury made him Lord Chancellor of England and after that made him Archbishop of Canterbury who after that treacherously and ungratefully as well as secretly resigned his Bishoprick to the Pope * See the Defence of the Apology of the Ch. of England c. p. 349 350 665 c. and of the Pope received it again and thereby betraying his Princes Right which was the cause of much trouble in England But for this and the like holy Cheats he was Sainted and now you shall hear how the poor infatuated Papists give Divine Attributes unto him Oh Christ make us to ascend unto Heaven whither Thomas is ascended even by the blood of Thomas which is shed for thy sake But Dr. Rainolds † See the Conference between Dr. Rainolds and Hart about the Pope's Supremacy p. 411. hath it thus viz. By the Blood of Thomas Which he for thee did spend Make us O Christ to clime Whither he did ascend Thus Reader you see that first Bishop Jewell and next Dr. Rainolds set forth and that in the words of the Papists themselves quoting Book and Page that the poor misled Papists gave such Titles to this their Saint as was due only to Christ himself attributing to Thomas Becket the Title not only of Intercessor but Saviour Again Oh Thomas reach thy help to us Stay them that stand help them that lie Correct our manners deeds and life Guide us unto the way of peace All Hail Oh Thomas the rod of right The Worlds light the Churches strength The Peoples love the Clergies joy All Hail brave Patron of the Flock Save them who on thy Honour glee And yet to excuse these Idolatrous Attributes and Blasphemous Appellations Mr. Harding said thus viz. Christ is used in this Prayer as the only Mediator of Salvation and St. Thomas as a Mediator of Intercession to Christ c. As Mr. Jewell in his Defence p. 349. And Dr. Rainolds in his Conference with Mr. Hart c. p. 411. both evidently set forth Next I come to shew what Names and Divine Attributes the Papists have given to their Popes as may be seen in the Defence of the Apology of the Church of England c. viz. Papa lux venit mundam the Pope is that light that is come into the world p. 570. Our Lord God the Pope And p. 750. to the same purpose and p. 562. In the Pope is all manner of Power p. 438. A Divine Power in the Pope p. 571. A certain Divine Power in the Pope beyond the natural state of men p. 493. Mr. Harding said of the Pope Thou art the Chief of all Bishops Thou art the Heir of the Apostles For Primacy thou art Abel for Government Noah for Patriarchship Abraham for Holy Order Melchisedech for Dignity Aaron for Authority Moses for Judgment Samuel for Power Peter for thy Anointing Christ c. Thus have the Papists not only Idolized their Popes but called them Christ and whatever Name was excellent in Scripture that they gave to their Popes and why it is Scripture language at least to be found in Scripture and therefore as they dreamt due of Right to the Pope c. Thus much touching the Papists giving and attributing Divine Honour to their Popes which was both Blasphemous and Idolatrous IT is written that George Fox came of poor Parentage See the 5th Part of the Christian Quaker disting c. p. 48 49. and was only a Journey-man-Shoemaker and wrought Journey-work with George Gee of Manchester But afterwards when he was a Preacher amongst the Quakers he became Famous and greatly Rich and did not deny being therewith charged but that he had 12 or 1300 l. c. But whether in his Advancement he may be most fitly compared to Thomas Becket or Simon the Sorcerer made mention of in the Acts of the Apostles cap. 8. ver 9 10. viz. There was in the City a certain Man called Simon saying that he himself was some great Man To whom they gave HEED from the LEAST to the GREATEST saying THIS MAN IS THE GREAT POWER OF GOD. I say whether G. Fox was most like this great Man Simon or Thomas Becket I leave to the Reader to judge when he hath heard how G. Fox gave out and that in Print that he was some GREAT MAN even such an one as knew who was a Saint who a Devil and who an Apostate c. pray hear what he said of himself 1st That he had a Spirit beyond all the Forefathers and thereby knew who were Saints who were Devils and who were Apostates without speaking ever a word * See their
chief Bishop and is placed in Peter's Chair he cannot err c. Thus doth the Pope and G. W. stand in a double Capacity upon which Bishop Jewel made this Observation which I think may not be amiss to be incerted viz. And thus as the Heathens in old times imagined their Centaurus to be half a Man and half a Horse the one behind and the other before or their Janus to have two Faces the one behind and the other before EVEN SO have you imagined two Popes in one Body the one going backward the other forward the one bearing light the other darkness the one deceived the other not deceived the one speaking truth the other falshood and yet both these Popes or G. Whiteheads incorporate together in one Person Give us leave therefore Mr. Harding to say now as the whole Vniversity of Paris once said not long since unto Pope Leo viz. We appeal from our Lord the Pope that hath so shamefully erred unto the Pope that cannot err The Defence of the Apology c. p. 635 493 581. THE SECOND CHARGE viz. THAT G. WHITEHEAD IS A FALSE ACCVSER OF THE MARTYRS CHARGING THEIR DOCTRINE WITH RANTERISM SORDID RANTERISM c. Reader this being charged upon G. W. he in his Book styled The Contentious Apostate and his one Blow c. p. 13. says What Doctrine held by the Martyrs did G. W. accuse but only F. B's misapplication of the words which he saith were Doctor Barnes viz. THAT ALL OVTWARD WORKS BE THINGS INDIFFERENT AND MAY BE VSED AND ALSO LEFT When my Quotation of the Martyr's words run thus THAT ALL THESE WITH ALL OTHER OVTWARD WORKS BE THINGS INDIFFERENT AND MAY BE VSED AND ALSO LEFT Now the word OTHER which stands in opposition to things commanded or prohibited in Scripture G. W. hath left out on purpose to pervert my words viz. OTHER than what is commanded OTHER than what GOD hath prohibited c. as the Doctor 's words set forth And as to the MISAPPLICATION of them which was all the Fault he finds in that Book that is left to the Reader to judge For I brought the said Martyr's words as a Testimony against their imposing the Observations of their Womens distinct Meetings as set up by George Fox * See my Book de Christiana Libertate p. 30. to 70. where their Original is set forth and G. F. the Founder and their yearly Meetings Grant and Confirmation Anno 1675. which I judged as indifferent as the eating Flesh or Fish observing this or that day yea or as shaven Crowns long Beards or the Collar of a Fryer's Coat and this is clear from the Coherency of the place alledged But G. W. in his Book The Contentious Apostate recharged c. p. 2. Recharges me with accusing the Martyrs which is such a piece of Art as none but a Man void of Conscience Honesty and Reason would be so Fool-hardy to do His Charge runs thus viz. That F. B. is a false Accuser of the blessed Martyrs in charging that to be their Doctrine which is none of theirs but a gross Perversion Forgery and Abuse of his own both against them the Martyrs and us called Quakers Now from the Premises what indifferent Reader would imagine otherwise but that First F. B. had falsly accused the Martyrs or their Doctrine or at least accused them Secondly That F. B. had wrote a Story of his own or some other Man's and said it to be the Martyrs when it was none of theirs Thirdly That F. B. forged this Quotation both against the Martyrs and Quakers c. Oh the Impudence of this Jugler For I never did either of these And that it may appear so I shall first recite at large my Quotation which I took out of Dr. Barnes's Works p. 298. intituled Mens Constitutions not grounded on Scripture bind not the Conscience c. And as set forth in my Book de Christiana Libertate c. 2d Part p. 122 123. And then let the Christian Reader judge whether I have not faithfully quoted the Doctor and rightly applied his Doctrine viz. as a Testimony against imposing indifferent things as things necessary and to be indispensibly obeyed as was the Case of their Womens Meetings when I wrote that Book wherein I vindicated Christian Liberty which the Foxonian Quakers did then as much withstand as ever the Papists did And as such G. Whitehead charged the Martyrs Doctrine with Ranterism sordid Ranterism as will more largely appear from what he says in the 259 260 pages of his Book Judgment fixed c. But first see the words of Dr. Barns which are as follow viz. Mark that all TRADITIONS of Men which are against or not according to GOD's Law must be destroyed Therefore let every man take heed for it belongeth to their Charge for both the blind Guides and they also which be led shall fall in the Ditch It shall be no excuse for him that is led to say his Guide was blind but let them hear the Word of GOD by his holy Prophets WALK NOT in the Precepts of your Fathers NOR KEEP THEIR JUDGMENTS but WALK in MY PRECEPTS and keep MY JUDGMENTS The OTHER manner of Statutes be when CERTAIN THINGS that be called INDIFFERENT be commanded as things to be done of NECESSITY As for Example To eat Flesh or Fish this or that day is indifferent and free These with all OTHER * The word Other George hath left out in the 13th page of his Contentious Apostate and One Blow And page 2 3 of his Contentious Apostate Re-chargd'd And yet blames me for leaving out the word Such which word Other I suppose my Compositor thought a distinguishing word sufficient outward works be things INDIFFERENT and may be used and also left Now if the Bishops or Ministers will make Laws or Statutes that these indifferent things shall be determinately used so that it shall not be lawful to leave them undone but that we must do them and not the contrary under the pain of deadly Sin here they must be WITHSTOOD and in no wise obeyed for in this is hurt our Faith and Liberty in Christ whereby we are free in all things and unto all Men at all times and in all manners EXCEPT it be in SUCH a Case whereas brotherly Charity or the common Peace should be offended Therefore in all these Cases we be free and we must withstand them that will take this Christian Liberty from us with this Text of Scripture We are bought with the price of Christ's blood we will not be the servants of Men c. Thus have I quoted Dr. Robert Barnes that innocent Martyr faithfully without any Forgery or wronging his Words And it still stands a good Witness and firm Testimony against the Quakers Impositions and forcing Obedience to their Laws and Orders for the observation of their Womens distinct Meetings And that they do so impose and have such Orders I may recite one as it stands Recorded in