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A44754 Some sober inspections made into carriage and consults of the late Long-Parliament whereby occasion is taken to speak of parliaments in former times, and of Magna Charta, with some reflexes upon government in general.; Som sober inspections made into the cariage and consults of the late Long Parlement Howell, James, 1594?-1666. 1656 (1656) Wing H3117; ESTC R2660 73,993 193

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returned without the prisoner This being related to the House of Commons they would sit no longer without their Member and desiring a conference with the Lords Sir Thomas A●dly then Chancellour and the rest judged the contempt to be very great and referred 〈◊〉 punishment thereof to the House of Commons it selfe Concerning liberty or freedome of speech which is held another privilege of Parliament There is a speech of Sir Thom●● Moors upon record who being chosen Speaker 14. Henry the eight He first disabled himself and then petitioned the King in the behalf of the House that if i● communication and reasoning any ma●● should speak more largely then of duty be ought to do all such offences should be pardoned which was granted and entre● upon record In which petition it is observable that liberty or freedom of speech is not a power for men to speak wha● they will or please in Parliament It is ● priviledge onely not to be punished but pardoned for the offence of speaking more largely then in duty they ought to do which in a right construction must be understood of rash unadvised ignorant or negligent escapes and slips in speech not for willfull malicious much lesse for treasonable speeches And then the Kings pardon was desired to be upon record that it might be pleaded at Bar to all actions There is a speech upon record in Queen Elizabeths time wherein the Commons were warn'd not to meddle with the Queens Person the State or Church-Government Polyander I have heard of divers traverses that hapned in the reign of that popular and long lived Queen which trenched as much if not more upon the priviledges of Parliament and the liberties of the people then any that happen'd in the reign of the two last Kings Philanglus It is very true and I will give you some instances drawn from good authentick records 23. Elizabeth Mr. Paul Wentworth moved in the House for a publick fast and for a Sermon every morning at seven a clock before the House sate the House hereupon was divided 100 were against it and 150 for it and so an order passed accordingly The Queen being told hereof sent a message to the House by her Vice-chamberlain That her Highnesse had great admir●●tion of the rashnesse of the House in commit●ing such an apparent contempt of her expresse command as to put in execution such an innovation without her privity or pleasure fist known Thereupon Mr. Vice-chamberlain moved the House to make an humble submission to her Majes●y acknowledging the said offence and contempt and to crave remission for the same with●●full purpose to forbear the committing of the like hereafter So by the suffrage of the whole House Mr. Vice-chamberlain carryed their submission to the Queen accordingly 35 Elizabeth Mr. Peter Wentworth and Sir Henry Bromley delivered a Petition to the Lord Keeper desiring the Lords of the Upper House to be suppliants with them of the Lower House unto her Majesty for entayling the succession of the Crown whereof a Bill was ready drawn The Queen was highly displeased herewith and charged her Councel to call the parties before them so Sir Thomas Henage was sent to fetch them so they were first commanded to forbear going to the House and not to go out of their several lodgings afterward they were called before the Lord Tresurer Lord Buckhurst and Sir Thomas Henage Wentworth was committed to the Tower and Bromeley to the Fleet together with Mr. Stevens as also Mr. Welch Knight for Worcestershire The Queen sent a notable check to the House of Commons 28. of her raign for chosing and returning Knights of the Shire for Norfolk a thing impertinent for the House to deal withall and belonging only to the Office and charge of her Chancellor from whom the Writs issue and are return'd In one Parliament when Mr. Coke afterwards Sir Edward Coke was Speaker the Queen sent a Messenger or Sargeant at Arms into the House of Commons and took out Mr. Morris and committed him to Prison with divers others for some speeches spoken in the House Thereupon Mr. Wroth moved the House that they would be humble sutors to her Majesty that she would be pleased to enlarge those members of the House that were restrain'd which was done accordingly and answer was sent by her Privy Councel That her Majesty had committed them for causes best known to her self and to presse her Highuesse with this suit would but hinder the whole good they sought That the House must not call the Queen to an account for what shee doth of her Royal Authority That the causes for which they are restrain'd may be high and dangerous That her Majesty liketh no such questions neither doth it become the House to search into matters of that nature The Commons were told 39. Elizabeth that their priviledge was yea and no And that her Majesties pleasure was that if the Speaker perceived any idle heads which would not stick to hazard their own estates but meddle with reforming the Church and trans forming the Common-weal by exhibiting Bills to that purpose the Speaker should not receive them till they were viewed and considered by those who are sitter to consider of such things and can better judge of them Moreover the Queen rejected 48. Bills which had passed both Houses in that Parliament The House of Commons by their Speaker 39. Elizabeth complained of some Monopolies whereupon the Lord Keeper made answer in her Majesties name That her Highnesse hoped her dutiful and loving Subjects would not take away her Prerogative which is the chiefest flower in her Garland the principall and h●ad Pearl in her Crown and Diadem but that they will rather leave that to her own disposition Sergeant Heal said 43. Elizabeth publiquely in Parliament that he marvelled the House stood either at the granting of a subsidy or time of payment considering that all we have is her Majesties and she may lawfully at her pleasure take it from us in regard she had as much right to all our lands and goods as to any revenew of the Crown and he said he could prove it by precedents in the raign of Henry the third King John and King Steven This speech agrees with that which Sir Edward Coke hath in his Institutes where he saith positively That the first Kings of this Realm had all the Lands of England in Demesne and the great Mannors and Royalties they reserved to themselves and enfeoffed the Barons of the remnant for the common defence of the Kingdom There was a remarkable passage happen'd in the raign of Henry the fourth The House of Commons Petitioned the King that they might have advice and communication with certain Lords about matte●● of businesse in Parliament for the commo● good of the Kingdom which prayer as the record hath it Our Lord the King graciously granted but with this protestation That he did it not of duty nor of custom but of his special grace So our Lord the King
up much less their own native King yet they made a sacrifice of him afterwards for a summe of money Whereupon Bellieure the French Embassador being convoyed by a troop of Scots horse to such a stand in lieu of larges to the said Troopers he drew out half a Crown piece and asked them how many pence that was they answered thirty pence he replied for so much did Judas betray his Master and so hurld them the half Crown Polyander But afterwards the Scots carried themselves bravely by sending a gay Army under D. Hamilton to assist the King Polyander Touching that Presbyterian Army the bottom of its design is not known to this day and I was told that when the King heard of it and that Himilton was in the head of it he should say Then I expect but little good to be done for me Polyander Certainly the routing of that Army was a glorious exploit of the Lord Protector that now is his forces not amounting to the third part of the Scots Philanglus It was certainly a very heroik Achivement as also was the battail of Dunbar where the Scots had greater advantages far of him which two exploits deserve to be engraven in large Letters of Gold in the Temple of immortality and transmitted to after ages For hereby he did more then Roman Emperours or after them the Saxon Danish Norman and English Kings could ever do to conquer that craggy Country and make England Scot-free ever hereafter But before I have done with this unlucky Nation I will give you a touch of those visible Judgments which have fallen upon them so thick one upon the neck of another in few years more then fell upon the Jews in forty First there happened the greatest plague in Edenburgh that ever was in that Country for in less then a twelve-month the Town was peopled with new faces the Pestilence having swept away almost all the old There have been above 2000 Witches arraigned and executed there within these few years After the routing of D. Hamilton and the battail of Dunbar with that at Worcest●r many thousands of that Nation have been bought and sold in quality of slaves to be banished and sent over to forraign Plantations what numbers of them were starved and buried before they were dead And what is now become of their hundred and ten Kings and their Crown which I heard them brag was more weighty as having more Gold in it then the English and for their Government they are reduced to be as pure a subordinate providence and subject to the will of the Conqueror as ever Country was Polyander I must tell you also that they have lost much of their repute abroad but if I were worthy to be heard by the Lord Protector I would make a motion that his Highnesse would take in at least all the Land 'twixt Barwick and Edenburgh into the English Pale and impose a new name upon it for an Eternal mark of Conquest and for enlargeing the Skirts of England But Sir it is time for you now under favour to return to London and know what the Paraliment doth Philanglus There are all Artifices used to make the King odious and both the Press and the Pulpit joyn in the work new distinctions are coyned that though he was Gods ●nynted yet he was mans appointed That he had the Commanding but not the Disposing power That he was set to Rule but not to over●rule us That he was King by humane choice not by Divine Charter That he was not King by the Grace of God but by the suffrage of the people That hee had no implicit trust or peculiar property in any thing that populus ●st potior Rege that Grex Lege Lex Rege potentior That the King is singulis major but universis minor Lastly that he was but a Creature and production of the Parliament● c. Moreover all Artifices are used to raise money The first way that the Parliament used after a Royal Subsidy of 400000 l. was to poll us then they went on to clip and shave us and had they continued longer they had fallen a fl●ying of us They lighted on no lesse then twenty severall ways to get money above board whatsoever they got below Polemoney and the Royal Subsidy were the first two 3. Free Loans and Contributions upon the publick Faith which swelled to an incredible sum 4. The Irish Adventures for sale of Lands the first and second time 5. The general Collection for relief of the distressed Protestants in Ireland to which use the Hollanders sent over in mony and Corn neer upon 50000 l. and the E●glish Collections came to neer four times so much so that in all both Collections amounted to above 200000 l. sterling and yet not ten thousand pound not the twentieth part was employed to the right use 5. They grew so hungry for money that they impos'd the weekly meal 6. The City Loan after the rate of five Subsidies 7. A particular Assessement for bringing in our dear Brethren the Scots 8. The five and twentieth part 9. The weekly Assessment for the Lord Generals Army 10. The weekly Assessement for Sir Tho. Fairfax Army 11. The weekly Assessement for the Scots Army 12. The weekly Assessement for the British Army in Ireland 13. The weekly Assessement for the Lord of Manchesters Army 14. The Kings Queens and Princes Revenues 15. Sequestrations and plunder by Committee 16. Compositions with Delinquents and fines which came to sums passed all understanding 17. That ●utch Devil the Excise 18. Fortification money 19. Bishops Deans and Chapters Lands To this may be added the Ship Sancta Clara valued in money and Merchandize at 800●0 l. sterling which was detain'd at Southampton for reparation of those damages that some English Merchants had received by the Spaniard as it was declared in the House but not a farthing thereof was imployed to that use notwithstanding that many with expence of time and coin did solicit for the same and lastly the Houshold stuff of the King Queen Prince and others whereof some small proportion was allotted for payment of the Arrears of the Kings poor Servants but they were to advance two in the pound be fore-hand before they could be admitted to any Divident and t is incredible what jugling there was used in that business for some receaved nothing thereby but loss upon loss Nay they took away moneys given to repair Churches and in some places robb'd the very Lazaretto Polyander Sure these vast sums must amount to a huge mass of money money enough to have pourchas'd half a dozen Kingdoms instead of purging one Touching that Du●ch Devill you speak of the Excise I remember Sir Dudley Carleton when he was Secretary of State did but name it in one Parliament and it was such a Bugbear abominable word that he was called to the Barr and hardly escap'd going to the Tower though he made use of it to no ill sense But was there no account