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A11828	A short information, but agreeable vnto Scripture: of idol-images· Made vnto the Christian congregation at Prague, when as, by his Royall Maiesties most gracious command, the Castle-church there, was clensed from all images, on Sonday the twelfth of December, in the yeare 1619. By Abraham Scultetus. Faithfully translated according to the high Dutch copie printed at Heidelberge, by Gotthard Vœgeliu, 1620.	Scultetus, Abraham, 1566-1624.	1620 (1620)	STC 22126; ESTC S121082	10,238	24

shewed as is to bee seene in the History of the Reformed Churches in France the fourth Booke that they therefore wished that all Images and Pictures of the holy Trinitie were cleane remoued and wholly put out of Churches and Houses seeing the same are plainly forbidden by the Holy Scripture by Councels and by many godly learned and much praysed worthy men But yet here mee thinkes I heare some man obiect Obiect againe and demand Seeing that the Sonne of God is become man whether he may not be pictured according to his humanity To which I answere Christ came not therefore Ans into the World that men might take his Picture but that men should beleeue in him and conuert themselues vnto him And therefore is it that we haue not any Commandement at all to make any such Image or Picture nor yet haue any example thereof in all the whole new Testament As also he cannot possibly at this day be truly pictured no not according to his humanitie seeing there liues not now any man on the Earth that hath seene him And heere hence it is that one doth paint him with a yellowish another with a flaxen a third with a black the fourth with a brown beard And so then a man must take that for Christ his Picture which the Painter holds in his opinion to be the best Not to say any thing that seeing Christ being true God and man is in one person they who boast to haue his Image and Picture haue thereof notwithstanding but a false Christ Now as concerning the Images and Pictures of Of the Images of Saints the Virgin Mary of Elizabeth and of other holy Saints If a man knew of what forme and fashion they properly were indeed their Pictures might well be had in priuate houses But they are not by any meanes to be there set vp in those places where men performe Gods publique seruice and worship neither to bee prayed vnto no nor yet for ornament sake Not to bee prayed vnto that being a chiefe part of Gods worship For it is written Thou shalt not bow downe thy selfe vnto Exod. 20. 5. them nor serue them And againe Thou shalt worship Mat. 4. 10. the Lord thy God and him onely shalt thou serue which is taken from the Law in Deuteronomie Deut. 6. 3. 10. 20. where the word onely is wanting and supplyed by Christ as being Gods true meaning Not for ornament sake for it is written Abstaine 1. Thes 5. 22 from all appearance of euill Now the Images set vpin holy places haue the appearance of being prayed vnto and worshipped For there are many people who thinke and are perswaded they are set vp there for that very end purpose And if they had not that appearance yet there is great danger therein that they may be prayed vnto and worshipped of superstitious people as we haue hitherunto seene that it hath beene but too much practised in this place And we ought as much as in vs lyeth indeuour to auoyd and preuent such danger For it is written Thou shalt not put a stumbling Leuit. 19. 14 block before the blind but thou shalt feare thy God saith the Lord in Leuiticus And againe Christ Mat. 4. 7. saith out of Deut. 6. 16. Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God Wherefore the consequent followeth not nor is of any value It is lawfull to haue the Pictures of the Apostles and of other holy Saints of God in priuate houses Therefore it is also lawfull to haue and set them vp publikely in Churches For in a priuate house where the Inhabitants bee not superstitious there is no appearance of praying vnto them and worshipping of them nor yet of any danger that they might bee prayed vnto and worshipped of other superstitious people and therefore are not there vnlawfull And so much shall suffice to haue spoken of the first maine point namely that God should not nor ought not that God cannot bee grauen or pictured Of the second But yet there are people here found who giue 2. God will not be called vpon or honoured by Images out that it is true indeed men should not pray nor giue reuerence or worship vnto the Images Pictures yea and that they themselues also doe it not But yet say that men may honour and worship God by and through the Pictures according as these wordes following stood written here on the beame vnder the great Crucifix Effigiem Christi cùm transis semper honora Non tamen effigiem sed quem designat adora That is When ere thou do'st before Christs Image stand Or passe it by giue honour out of hand Yet not to th' Image which thine eyes doe see But to the Lord it represents to thee Whereunto we giue this answere That it were much to be desired that Images were not indeed prayed vnto and worshipped at all But the practice and experience teacheth far otherwise whilst it is daily seene how the people doe come and bow themselues before the Altars Images and Crucifixes how they put off their Hats vnto them how they kindle Lamps and Tapers vnto them And should many of them see that a Crucisix should bee hewed in pieces or burned into ashes oh how would euen their very heart then bleed for giefe This is indeed truly to doe reuerence and honour vnto Images and make Idols of them But goe too Say they pray not vnto the Images say they giue no reuerence nor doe honour and worship vnto them Yet will not God haue nor can endure that we pray vnto him that we worship him and that we giue him honour in by or through Images For hee saith at once roundly and expresly out They shall not bee bowed downe vnto nor serued In which words he forbids all manner of seruice honour or worship that may any way whatsoeuer be giuen vnto Images As also it is written Iohn 14. 6. that No man can come to the Father but by the Sonne not by Images sencelesse dumbe Idols Besides it excuseth not their Idolatry at all that they pretend say that through and by the Image they pray vnto and call vpon the Sauiour For the Israelites would not be taken or thought to pray vnto and worship the golden Calfe as they themselues also say To morrow is a Feast not vnto the Calf but Exod. 32. 5 8 10. vnto the Lord. And yet neuerthelesse the Lord saith vnto Moses They haue worshipped the Calfe and haue sacrificed thereunto and therefore his wrath was waxen hot against the people to haue consumed them Yea it faileth so farre that God will be worshipped by Imagēs as that he will not at all be so much as serued BEFORE IMAGES For thus sound forth aloud his owne words Yee Leuit. 26. 1. shall make you no Idols nor grauen Image neither reare you vp a standing Image or Pillar neither shall yee set vp any Image of stone in your Land to bow

down vnto it or before it And therfore before Images we ought not to pray not to baptize not to administer the Lords Super. For whether a mā hood-winke himselfe or no whether a man see the Images or see them not yet it is all one and directly against the will of God that any should pray before Images If now it be not lawfull at all for vs to honour and worship the Lord Christ through and by Images then is it much lesse lawfull for vs to honour and worship the Saints deceassed as the Virgin Mary Peter Wenceslaus Rochus Sebastian others by and before the Images For besides that the Saints departed are not to be worshipped or prayed vnto neither in regard of themselues for it is written Thou shalt worship the Lord thy Mat. 4. 10. God and him onely shalt thou serue nor yet in regard of their being Mediators and Intercessors For it is written For there is one God and one Mediator betweene God and Men euen the Man Christ 1. Tim. 2. 5. Iesus Wherefore If any man sinne wee haue an 1. Iohn 2. 1. Aduocate with the Father Iesus Christ the righteous And hee maketh intercession for the Saints according Rom. 8. 27. to the will of God For hee is entered into Heb. 9. 24. Heauen it selfe now to appeare in the presence of God for vs. And therefore they haue great need to looke well about them and consider how they will one day answere for it before God who now so much loue Images as that they honour them with the putting off of the Hat with kneeling and with other like Ceremonies For they belong vnto the number of those of whom the Prophet Isaiah speaketh in his second Chapter saying Their Isai 2. 8 9. Land is full of Idols they worship the worke of their owne hands that which their owne fingers haue made There the meane men bow downe the great men humble themselues This thou wilt not forgiue them Of the third Here hence now it is easie to conclude what 3. That Christian Magistrates ought to remoue all Images from the Churches they meane to worship God in then a Christian Magistrate is to doe when for his seruing of God he taketh in a Church which is replenished with Idol-Images The Lord himselfe determines the matter Exod. 34. 13. Thou shalt destroy their Altars breake downe their Images and cut downe their groues And Deut. 7. 5. Thus shall ye deale with them Ye shall destroy their Altars and breake downe their groues and burne their grauen Images with fire Againe Deut. 12. 3. You shall ouerthrow their Altars and breake their Pillars and burne their groues with fire and you shall hewe downe the grauen Images of their gods and destroy the names of them out of that place And 1. Sam. 7. 3. Samuel spake vnto all the house of Israel saying If ye doe returne vnto the Lord with all your hearts then put away the strange gods and Ashtaroth from among The first supposed ground is That God speaketh in the ten Commandements Obiect 1 of the Idol-Images of the Heathen and vnbeleeuing people Therefore the Commandement of Images concerneth not at all the Images of Christians vnder the new Testament The Answere is It is false that God in the old Ans Testament spake onely of the Idols of the Heathen For the tenne Commandements are Gods euerlasting vnchangeable will and extend vnto all people and euery one in the whole World as also vnto all and euery age and time both of the olde and new Testament Now as a Thiefe or an Adulterer in the new Testament sinnes as well against the ten Cōmandements as did a Thiefe and an Adulterer in the old Testament euen so whosoeuer honoureth and worshippeth Images in the new Testament he sinneth as wel against the ten Commandements as hee who did honour and worship Idols in the old Testament The second supposed ground Yet God himselfe had in Salomons Temple all Obiect 2 manner of Images I answere It is very true indeed But there Ans were not there any Images at all of any of the Saints departed as of Abraham of Isaack and of Iacob there were not any Historicall commemoratiue Images of which it is here spoken The third supposed ground But yet the common lay people may by Images bee Obiect 3 put in mind of many good things especially by the Crucifix of the Death and Passion of our Lord Iesus Christ I answere It stands not in mans will and pleasure Ans that hee institute and ordayne vnto himselfe a publike remembrance and commemoration of the benefits of God but that belongs vnto the Lord God alone to doe as it is written Psal 111. 4 He hath made his wonderfull workes to be had in remembrance the Lord is gracious and full of compassion And euen for this purpose hath the Lord God ordayned the preaching of his Gospell that by the same the benefits of our Lord Christ might bee as it were together painted before mens eyes According as the Apostle Saint Paul witnesseth of himselfe Gal. 3. 1. 2. 5 6. c. That he had euidently set forth Iesus Christ before their eyes not by a Crucifix but as himselfe further acknowledgeth through and by the preaching and hearing of faith And euen to this end did our Lord Iesus institute his holy Supper that we should celebrate it in remembrance Luke 22. 19. of him For the bread that we breake 1. Cor. 11. 24 25 26. is it not a notable remembrance I beseech you that Iesus Christ endured and suffered for vs many bitter sorrowes and such as neuer man suffered Consider and behold if euer there were sorrow like Lam. 1. 12. my sorrow and at length death it selfe when body and soule were pulled asunder the one from the other vpon the Crosse The Cup of Blessing or Thanksgiuing is it not an excellent remembrance that the bloud of Christ Iesus ranne gently out of his body and was shed for our sinnes These Remembrancers hath our Lord Christ instituted and Saint Paul hath repeated them But the Idoll and Imagery Remembrancers hath Antichrist euen the Pope instituted Before whose being there was not any Image-remembrancer knowne of in the Church of God But this was well knowne that euery Image was falshood Ier. 10. 14. And that they be teachers of lyes Habac. 2. 18. The fourth supposed ground is an Obiection made by Protestants For the abuse of a thing a man must not therefore Obiect 4 cast away the thing it selfe As a man will not cast away good Wine because that some abuse it to drunkennesse Euen so we may still retayne Images in Protestant Churches if we doe but forbeare to worship them and pray vnto them I answere This rule A thing is not therefore presently to be cast away because it hath beene abused Ans hath not any place or being in those things which are not of themselues necessary and yet are

withall dangerous Now all Protestants doe acknowledge and confesse that Images are not of themselues at all necessary And that they are dangerous wee haue here seene and beheld with our eyes in this very Church Therefore Images may not by the foresaid Rule bee at all defended or excused Besides who knoweth not that the brazen Serpent commanded by God to bee set vp 2. Kin. 18. 4. and looked vpon was againe broken downe when it came to be worshipped by the people The fift supposed ground Why may some say thou standest now thy selfe Obiect 5 in that Pulpit from whence much Idolatrous matter hath bin preached Thou doest celebrate the Lords Supper in that Church wherein the Papists haue held their Masse Wherefore then is not both Pulpit and Church broken downe together I answere We teach not that all that should be Ans broken downe which men haue abused or might abuse vnto Idolatry For so should Heauen and all created things bee destroyed But wee teach thus That all those things which a man may well spare and which are dangerous and may lightly giue vnto this or that body an occasion to Idolatry bee in time remoued and cast away agreeably vnto the cleere and plaine Word of God 1. Tim. 5. 22. Be not partaker of other mens sins keepe thy selfe pure Againe Thou shalt not tempt the LORD thy God According to this Rule did the godly Priests in the time of magnanimous heroicall Champion Iudas Maccabeus reforme all when as the holy Place had bin grieuously prophaned by that wicked Antiochus They brake not down the Temple in which there had beene shamefull Idolatry commited but they clensed and bare the defiled stones into an vncleane place as it is written 1. Mac. 4. 42. 43. According to this Rule our Lord Mat. 21. 12 13. made reformation at Hierusalem For he neither brake downe the Temple nor yet the Pharisies Pulpit from whence they taught meerely mens traditions and inuentions But he cast out all them that bought and sold in the Temple and ouerthrew the tables of the money changers and the seats of them that sold Doues wherby they had made his House of Prayer a Den of theeues The What Will ye be wiser then the Ancients Our Obiect 8 fore-fathers had for many hundred yeares agoe the Images in worth and honour in this place I answere Whether in this respect wee will bee Ans wiser then the Ancients I therunto let King Dauid answere in his 119. Psalme 100. v. where he saith I vnderstand more then the Ancients because I keep thy Precepts But if a man will enquire of the age of Images amongst Christians then it will appeare that afore twelue hundred yeares afore thirteene hundred yeares afore fourteene hundred yeares afore fifteene hundred yeares afore sixteene hundred yeares there was not any Image of God the Father any Image of God the Sonne any Image of God the Holy Ghost any Image of any Saint departed found at all in any of the Christians Churches and Houses of Prayer Yea looke how many Images how many Altars how many Challices how many Massing Vestments are yet found amongst vs so many present witnesses are there that wee are stept aside from the ancient simplicitie when as they knew not of any Image of any Altar of any Challice of any Massing Vestments As the same is as cleere as the Sun-shine to be shewed out of Iustin Martyrs second Apologie out of Irenaeus Tertullian Origen Cyprian and other much esteemed worthy ancient Fathers The ninth supposed ground And if we will haue the Images put downe then Obiect 9 ought they first to be put out of mens hearts and afterwards from before their eyes I answere Thus say men here on Earth and it Ans is all earthly humane reason But God that is in Heauen saith farre otherwise Breake them downe destroy them burne them that is put them away from before your eyes and out of your sight And that not without great reason For euen like as a man will not see a Thiefe that hee steale and will not see an Adulterer that hee breake Wedlocke with an opinion that Theft and Adultery must be first shewed vnto him out of Gods Word to bee vnlawfull Euen so should not nor can a Christian Magistrate see and behold that men rob the Lord of his honour and vse alliance with Images seeing the Commandement Thou shalt not make vnto thy selfe any Image thou shalt not bow downe vnto it nor worship it is euen as cleere and euident as the Commandements Thou shalt not steale Thou shalt not commit Adultery The tenth supposed ground The people are offended at the taking downe remouing and putting away of Images 10. Obiect I answere They tooke offence also at our Lord Christs preching Ioh. 6. Should not Christ therfore haue preached Whosoeuer doth the will of God he hath not any need to feare any offence at all to be by him occasioned and giuen But whosoeuer is offended at the full doing of the will of God hee sinneth both against God against his Neighbor Out of all which euery one may well perceiue and vnderstand what a number of weighty and perswasiue reasons did together inforce his Royall Maiestie is not at all any way purposed to compell or grieue any mans conscience as also hee hath neuer yet done in his own hereditary Countries For in this respect he holds with the Emperor Maximilian the second who was wont to say That Kings commanded and bare Rule ouer their Subiects bodies but not ouer their Consciences But yet for all this his Royall Maiestie will not as it were not sitting he should haue his owne Conscience insnared and therefore desireth to serue the Lord God according to that cleere knowledge wherewith God hath enlightned him and according to that his will which he hath reuealed vnto him And what that reuealed will of God is yee haue now alreadie sufficiently vnderstood Namely that He will not be pictured as also hee ought not nor yet can be pictured He wil not be honored by through or before Images He will that men breake downe all Images and wholy depend on him alone with all the heart Whosoeuer therefore now in the feare of God truly thinkes on all these things hee will not at all be offended at the remouing and casting away of all Images herehence But hee will much rather greatly thanke the Lord God that the publique abhomination and great offence is in time remooued and taken away And if yet there should perhaps be any who hath notwithstanding still some doubt and scruple in his minde let him but please confidently to come vnto vs and he shall with all loue mildnes and well befitting good resolution bee answered and haue more full information and satisfaction giuen vnto him by vs out of Gods Word For it is our very intent and purpose wholly so to labour and indeauour to bring much people vnto sauing knowledge as that therby they may rightly come to know and gladly acknowledge the true Will of God and according to such knowledge zealously and faithfully to serue him Whereunto the Lord vouchsafe both vnto vs to you the holy Spirit who hath promised and bound himselfe to giue it vs if we call faithfully vpon him for it euen Iesus Christ the righteous blessed and praysed with the Father and the Holy Ghost now for euer Amen The Prayer after the Sermon ALmighty most mercifull most gracious louing God and Father we giue thee most humble prayse and thankes for all thy mercies and benefits which wee vncessantly haue receiued and stil do of thy rich goodnesse that thou hast so graciously gouerned vs all the whole time of our life long protected and preserued vs and euen hitherunto hast kept vs. But especially and aboue all wee thanke thee deare Father that thou hast suffered vs to liue to see the good day wherin this Church is clensed and purged from all Idolatry Images Wee beseech thee O eternall Lord God graciously to enlighten their eyes who yet sit in the dark●