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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
honour_n	image_n	worship_n	worship_v	5,699	5	9.5098	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A01258	The reformed politicke. That is, An apologie for the generall cause of reformation, written against the sclaunders of the Pope and the League VVith most profitable aduises for the appeasing of schisme, by abolishing superstition, and preseruing the state of the clergie. Whereto is adioyned a discourse vpon the death of the Duke of Guise, prosecuting the argument of the booke. Dedicated to the King by Iohn Fregeuille of Gaut.; Politique reforme. English	Frégeville, Jean de.	1589 (1589)	STC 11372; ESTC S102664	75,347	102

of the deuils but vary it how they will I force not so the definition remaine Superstition then being the cause of our separation it is also to be thought that we can not allow any superstitious doctrine But discretiō is needefull to be had in clearing the cause of superstition from that that concerneth the state and not to condemne any thing rashly The superstitions that cause vs to abandon the Popes partie are the worshipping of Images and Reliques the inuocation of Sainctes Purgatory Transubstantiation Artolatrie Traditions the Popes orders established by superstitious traditions false and faleable Pardons false merites derogatorie to Christes merites and such like As for Images it is a matter sufficiētly beaten by other and therefore I shall not neede to enter into particularities for it is manifest inough that the worshipping of them is idolatrie I know that euery Image is not an Idoll also that an Image simply maketh not an Idoll but the worship thereof which is superstition For it is written Thou shalt not honor it But we doe honor it when we celebrate it with any worship I also graunt that an Image set vp for a historie is no Idoll as we see in the temples of those that are called Lutherans in Germanie but if we attribute any vertue thereto it is superstition for the vertue that we attribute is the cause of the worship and honor thereto yet is it good vtterly to purge Gods Church frō these Images which haue bene causes of the peoples Idolatrie howbeit it were to be wished that it might be done by the kinges authoritie And it is to be meruailed that in the Churches there are the Images of God the father sith God him selfe hath so expresly forbidden it For if they might take place the heathen ought not to be reproued for their Image of Iupiter For it is certaine that by Iupiter they vnderstood Ioue pater and it is an auncient character of Noahs Religion who called God Iehoua And the Poete saying Iouis omnia plena speaketh of the great God creator of all thinges I will omit all Poeticall fictions neither doth my Argument leade me to speake of them As for the Images of Iesus Christ and his Sainctes if that of Iesus ought not to be worshipped much lesse ought those of the Sainctes but that of Iesus Christ must not be worshipped it is then in vayne to worship those of Saincts Some man may say that they worship them not hereto I aunswere that when we exhibite so great reuerence to any thing as we can not exhibite more to God him selfe we worship that thing But such is the worship that is done to Images before the which we vncouer our heades bend our knees hold vp our handes make our prayer present our offring and such like Tell me then I pray you what more can we doe to God him selfe But the subtiler sorte do say ween you that when I kneele before a Crucifixe of wood or stone I pray to the wood or stone No I doe it to the thing represented by that wooddē Crucifixe and looking thereupon do direct my prayer to Christ Thinke you say they that I am so sencelesse as to stay vpon this visible Image mine eye is in deede vpō the visible Image but my hart is with Iesus Christ that is in heauen But let me aske thee Thinkest thou that they which sacrificed to the brasen serpēt had not the like starting hole They had more reason to sacrifice thereto then thou to a Crucifixe For it figured Iesus Christ hanging on the wood and whereas thy Crucifixes be erected by superstitious men without any cōmaundement from God that was erected by Gods expresse commandement and whereas some of thy Crucifixes are authorised by false miracles that was famous by the miracles wrought in the desert by healing such as the serpents had bitten All which notwithstanding when the people began to sacrifice thereto Ezechias brake it saying that it was but brasse Wherefore if these starting holes should take place who doubteth but the Israelites would haue had the like Thou worshipest sayest thou Iesus Christ and art not so sencelesse as to worship the Crucifixe weenest thou the Israelites were so sencelesse as to worship the brasen serpent and not rather him that was thereupon figured hanging vpon the wood or thinkest thou that they were so ignoraunt that they knew it not to be the figure of the Messias sith they liued in a time so illuminated with Prophetes as was the time of Ezechias Had such shiftes taken place Ezechias would neuer haue destroyed the brasen serpent which notwithstanding these shiftes being broken thy excuses also take no place Thou wilt say that they sacrificed to the brasen serpent but that thou doest not sacrifice to the Crucifixe I answere that there were two sortes of sacrifices the one burnt offerings the other meate offrings The burnt offrings were made of beastes The meate offrings of fruicts as of corne wine bread oyle such like wherfore whē thou offerest the like thinges to the Crucifixe thou sacrificest againe to the brasen serpēt And whē thou makest those offerings before the Images of Sainctes thou doest yet worse To be brief all these excuses are but starting holes and it is no heresie to abandon such superstition yea this superstitious worship is the cause that iustly we may well call them Idols And S. Paule teacheth vs what soeuer is sacrificed to Idols is offered to Idols wherein we doe learne that the Idols which in old time aunswered by oracles were deuils Yea there be some deuines which note the worship of the Images of Sainctes and there be Images vnder the Catholicke Religion that abuse the world which thinketh that the Sainctes doe worke miracles albeit they be such miracles as the old oracles wrought long agoe Wherein it is euidēt that they are the same deuils which abuse the people hauing onely chaunged their names In old time they would be called God and now they wilbe termed Saincts The Gods of old time had their Priestes and Sibilles and now the Saincts haue their Southsayers they frame thē selues to the time but in the meane time the people is abused thinking because the name is altered the matter is changed As for the distinctiō of Honor Latrie Doulie Hiperdoulie it is an other kinde of shift which hath neither reason nor grounde in the word of God Now therfore do I appeale to euery mans iudgement in this matter viz. that sith they worship Images whether this worship may not be taken for superstition and Idolatry also whether this worship maketh not their Images Idols And S. Paule testifieth that Idols be deuils Therefore these Images whereto they erect worship are deuils that is to say deuils are worshipped in them and so being deuils we are not to haue any acquaintance with them For Sainct Paule telleth vs that we can not participate both in the cup of the Lord and in the cup of deuils